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What is the perfect ski for a freestyler and a racer? (freestyle comes first)
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I am a freestyle skier and often go to the park, yet I am also suprisingly the captain of my schools varsity race team. I was wondering what ski I should get for both. I am 5,9 132lbs. and am considering the pipe cleaners and the spks. (171 pc, and 168 spks) Have any other ski suggestions? I like freestyle more than racing but now as captain I don't want to look like a complete fool on short park skis.
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the pipe cleaners have racing bases, those might be good
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yea thats what id have to say but be careful on rails with these
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You really need two different pairs. If you don't want two pairs, I would say go with karmas
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get two pairs of skis, find a good deal on some park skis on here then look around on epic or ebay for some race skis, i dont think any park ski out there is going to be fun for GS
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The two you picked are definitely what I would suggest. But racing competitively you should really get a race ski, and probably look for a used set of park skis for cheap if money is the issue.
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get the pipe cleaners and a matching race suit
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Like everyone else said, you really need 2 seperate pairs...
But with that said, if you must only have one pair, the Elan Mo2 is the way to go hands down
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werd. you cant hit rails on the same skis you want to race with. period. buy some race skis on ebay like he said. and right now online you can get a pretty good selection of pure park skis for like 200 bucks.
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I agree with everyone else. I remember my dad got himself solly crossmax 10s (mayb 9s?) both /w s912ti's for just $250ish on ebay, they absolutely rip. Not so sure if theyre racing skis but I'm sure you could pull it off
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as most people have said you really want a pair of race skis and then separate pair of twins. at any rate for your size i would probably go closer to a 175-180cm ski no matter what skis you end up choosing
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That's tough for race though, not sure how it works wherever your racing, but almost every racer I talk to has 2 pairs, one for GS one for S, maybe go with long long for GS, and use your parks which would be a bit smaller for S.
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get two different pairs of skis... That is the way to go.
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I know everything you guys said about buying two makes sense, but I feel like I can achieve a high enough level in both styles of skiing with one ski, and many seem to suggest the pipe cleaners, the karmas, the spks, and one said the mo2's. I'm not sure which one of these to choose. I found good deals on all of them and was wondering if there were any other types similar to these listed or better for what I want. Thanks...
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I know you may find this to be a good idea, but once you start progressing in park and or racing your are going to be bummed, the side cut and mounting for park skis are alot different from race skis, you need sharp edges for racing, in park your edges will get distroyed, you are also not going to have the same edge control with a park ski, especially something like the karmas, they are alot slower edge to edge
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trust me, i tried to race on twin tips, it is fucking scary. get ready to be made to look like a fool when you cant hold an edge for shit on a course. i bought some cheap race skis on ebay for like 250 (rossi 9x) and the difference is amazing. you seriously cannot break them out of a carve if you wanted to. first day on them i was pushing my outside ski soooo hard, and all it would do is just carve harder. you will be pissed cuz you cant ski your twins like you want to if you are using them to race, and pissed when you cant carve on twins.
trust me, save up a little more and get two pairs, or pro form some or something, you wont regret it.
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i have a couple friends that have come from racing backgrounds and are all on salomon foils now, they love em
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whatever park ski you get, get like 178 length. im 5'10" and i rock 180s
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I rocked 176 centremounted T-halls for racing..came in 22nd outa like 40
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those skis would eat this kid...no joke
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pipe cleaners if u dont do rails
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1080 CR labs would be alright
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Pipe Cleaners are a possibility
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I now think pipe cleaners, spk's, or karmas. Not sure which ones, karmas are a little expensive.
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if your really set on having a ski for both i would definitly go pipe cleaners or salomon cr labs(2 year old skis but have race bases just like the pipe cleaners and you can probably find a great deal on em). or whichever salomon ski has a race base this year(its either the dumont or spk i dont remember)
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you should be getting skis in the 175 range and up... your 5 9 thats to big for a 168 IMO
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The SPK is the new CR lab. Same ski. Just newer and uglier graphics. Next years are sweet though.
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Ive got some new 180cm Cr's if you want em
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pipe cleaners, i might even go alighty longer the 171
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this is an observation:
i have the scratch fs in 167
and the 9x in 167
the mount point is like the same
the flex is quite similar
and i was like wtf
the only real difference was the tip on the back of the scratch
here is my actual replay to your post
get a cheap pair of race skis, i use 04/05 9x's, they rock
and find a pair of park skis cheap, because the end of the season
the 2 pairs of cheaper skis will be about the same as new karmas w/bindings
and you'll have waaay better performance
+you wont destroy your park skis racing and vice versa
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tosional stiffness and sidecut. the scratch is no where near as stiff torsionally.
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i was just saying they were eerily similar
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Anyone who doesn't tell you to get Heads is a moron.
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Hey guys, is 180s ok if im 5,9. I'm not sure, I think they would be ok.
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if you weigh 132 i would go a little shorter than 180.
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180 for a 5'9 person would be alright i think
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i really suggest looking around to find a pair of racing skis for cheap
you are the captain of your team
look at evogear
you can find good end-of-season deals there
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