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Does god exist?

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im writing my junior research paper on how religion is basically a big joke. everyone thats on jesus' dick dont get pissed, just tell me some short sweet reasons why you believe in god?
also i need some reasons that YOU GUYS/GIRLS personally dont believe in god.

basically tell me your thoughts on religion in this world

PLEASE NO ARGUING
Mar 19 2007 10:59PM
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2+2=5
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i believe in god because in order for something to be created you need something. you can not create anything without nothing. so it has to start somewhere. plus the bible has foretold a lot of true prophecies.
Mar 19 2007 11:01PM
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406
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nice this is waht i want, short simple answers
Mar 19 2007 11:02PM
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CooksCorner
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look up Descartes proof's for Gods existence or Pascals Wager, both of those could be useful in your paper. I find logical attempts to prove God's existence more interesting than scripture.
Mar 19 2007 11:02PM
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BigJew
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Does anyone else get pissed whenever the topic of religion comes up? How the fuck do fully grown people base their entire lives on fairy tales?
Mar 19 2007 11:03PM
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406
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thats what i chose my topic on, how religion is a joke, its pathetic really
Mar 19 2007 11:04PM
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newschooler8924
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god is the easiest explanation to creation. all gods are. "hey where did our kind come from?" GOD! a huge imortal who sits on a cloud and looks down on us! gimme a fucking break. there are no fuckign angels , there is no hell and there is no fucking god. humans are a product of evolution, just like birds and insects. in 20 thousand years chimpanzees will probably be able to talk.

Mar 19 2007 11:07PM
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Sno.
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this thread is bad news bears.

I believe in God because i just do. Why do you believe in love? Certain things we just believe to be real because we know they exist because we can feel them and have personal emotional/psychological proof of them.
Mar 19 2007 11:07PM
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steevner
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see: Darwin, evolution, etc.
Mar 19 2007 11:11PM
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jKutcher
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religin is somthing to give people comfort. a way for people to base their lives on values and morales they find fitting. the fact that there is a higher being watching over you can be a very nice thought to some people. i dont see a why you think you can just come up and tell people that the way they base their actions, their life, is a joke. fairytales. you dont have to believe but dont make fun of the people that do.
Mar 19 2007 11:13PM
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hoodratz47
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of course god is reall. HE MADE WEED !!!!!! and tits!
Mar 19 2007 11:13PM
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newschooler8924
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jea tittyfuck
Mar 19 2007 11:13PM
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soulskier
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a big reason i believe is thats just how i was raised
Mar 19 2007 11:25PM
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charmander
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same here
but i totally thinkj we evolved from swamp gas farted out fromradioactive squirrels
and ^ darwin was a fag, he brought about the idea of an arien race that hitler based his ideas on.
Mar 19 2007 11:25PM
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unchyll
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People believe in god because they are afraid of death and cant stand the fact that tehy are going to die and thats it.
it makes me so mad when people seriously believe in it and turn down all the science and shit thats against it but i mean power to you if you do believe in god you'll prolly live a happy life believing that your gonna be sent to a heaven but id rather live my life to the fullest rather than wait to die then think im gonna have all these oppurtunities and shit
the actual christian religon is actualy pretty fucked up and has done some pretty fucked up things to people like slavery and all the crap with gay people etc.
fuck christians who think they can brainwash you to fucking think like them seirously
religon causes wars not fucking unity
Mar 19 2007 11:27PM
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nitsua
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Faith.
Mar 19 2007 11:40PM
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lushlaxstr
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logic
Mar 19 2007 11:48PM
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hoodratz47
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"your choices are half chance.. so are everybody elses"!

Mar 19 2007 11:56PM
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Greenish
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the reason i don't really believe in god is because I haven't really ever asked anything of god so there has never been a time that religion could prove itself to me.
Mar 19 2007 11:56PM
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slaydave
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there has to be something... and that is logical... people can try to explain things with scientific theories and i dont deny that science is how things came to be... but what caused that itself? couldnt the big bang and evolution, etc, be the way in which god created? i believe there is a higher power but it is not the "wizard" like character that is portrayed by the church or religion when explaining creation. over the years people have gotten too caught up in political correctness and choosing one extreme side vs. the other. there is a middle ground and it is probably the most logical explination... theres missing parts of each side of the argument... put them together and u have the whole explination... hopefully ya guys understand what im trying to say...
Mar 20 2007 12:11AM
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STAUSS
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No because all the neo evangelical christian fucks in this world are nazi hypocritical douche bags.
Mar 20 2007 12:16AM
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Campeador
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All of you who base your non-belief in God based on "logical" science are all morons.


Even Einstein acknowledged that there is a creator and that the world is far too complex to have been created without a creator.
Mar 20 2007 12:17AM
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Skiing_Is_Fun
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read the bible....duh
Mar 20 2007 12:23AM
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Campeador
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You could not be more wrong.
Most people who believe in God are not afraid of death, it is just another step. Christians are usually satisfied with their lives while those who believe in nothing constantly envy the young as they grow older. The people who are most afraid of death are those who believe in nothing. I agree the fanatical preparation for the afterlife so that you cannot fully enjoy the current life, practiced by radical Christian sect doctrines, is ridiculous however (Amish and such fall into this category).

It's not so much living a happy life because Christians are trying to get to heaven. Its living a happy life knowing that they live their lives morally and by strong virtues.

Judge the Christian religion by the message it gives, not what followers of the religion did during the dark and middle ages.
Mar 20 2007 12:30AM
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fappy
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yes, because einstein is the end all, be all of scientific thought, right?

i did a 12 page paper on einstein for a philosophy class last year. he was very ambiguous in that he often discussed both religion and science together. look up his quotes on religion and you'll find tons of rambling thoughts that appear consistent with his previous ones, then seem entirely conflicting. he was a genius, but by no means is anything he said 100% true.

that's the brilliant paradox of religion - it can't be proven, and yet it needs no proof.
Mar 20 2007 12:34AM
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Crock360
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Not sure if this will help you in your paper or not, but I used to be a "Jesus Freak." I went to church all the time, I brought non-believing friends to my youthgroup activities etc.... This was all from the time i was like 10-16. Then I started developing my mind a little bit. I was reading the bible more and more on my own, and I had tons and tons of questions. So naturally I went to church, and asked my pastor, other people in the church all these questions. The basic responses i got were "you can't ask that; just believe." Well I'm not one who can just believe something for no reason. Then I started reading more and more about other types of religion, and seeing that although in practice they're very different, at their core they're very simliar. What really clinched it for me was finding out that there are other gospels out there that depict Jesus as just a regular dude, and not a diety. But these books were intentionally left out of the bible because the contradict the theme of the New Testiment. It was then that I stopped going to church, and started thinking for myself.

What it all boils down to is people feel a need to have purpose. A need to belong to something, and a need to hope for something good in the future/afterlife. As of right now, i don't know if there is a god or gods. Yeah it's something I think I would like to believe, but I dont know for sure either way. So I'm going to drink some beers, get drunk every now and then, have sex with women before marriage, say what I want, think what I think, and not really give a shit about what other people think about it. I dont think religion is a bad thing untill it is forced upon others. If you have your beliefs, and stick to them 100% that's cool, I respect that, but dont shove it down my throat. I've been down that road, and it didn't work for me, so respect my standpoint is all I ask. 

Mar 20 2007 12:38AM
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406
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shut the fuck up you emo mother fucker. i have done alot of research on this subject and i just wanted to know what your guys thoughts are on this....everyone here has interesting opinions and some of them arent posted on religious sites. And no shit im biased, its a research paper, i research my opinion. i dont wanna know what you think about me, but about religion. so take your pathetic self somewhere else
Mar 20 2007 12:46AM
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406
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thanks this is the thoughts i need
Mar 20 2007 12:47AM
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fappy
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exactly.

i had to read god knows how many books last year for this hell of a class i was talking about, including everything about emile durkehim, probably one of the most important sociologists ever.

his main theory behind religion was that its survival and perpetuation centered around connectivity. the feeling of belonging, especially when placed in contexts such as church, bible study, group prayer, etc., generated a greater feeling of satisfaction in its unity.
Mar 20 2007 12:54AM
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Campeador
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Religion is not a joke, YOU are the joke.
Mar 20 2007 12:58AM
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Lé.Skiing
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if you turely want an answer i'd use the search bar we've had countless threads on this and theres been alot of good points.
Mar 20 2007 1:03AM
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d.spong
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well said
Mar 20 2007 1:03AM
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406
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how is me writing about atheism propaganda?
Mar 20 2007 1:17AM
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Lé.Skiing
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maybe you need to research the word propaganda... or atleast go to: " www.dictionary.com " and look it up...
Mar 20 2007 1:20AM
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hollygrove
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Meh, maybe soemthign happened ot make us, maybe there wasnt. I figure that it doenst affect me, so I shouldn't go and worry about it alot.
Mar 20 2007 1:21AM
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406
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information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.

who i am harming? im writing a paper chill out
Mar 20 2007 1:22AM
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truckerhucker
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Ya Im a christian and How much faith do you have to believe in evolution. You weren't there when the world was evoloved I know the whole deal about it happens too "slow" to be seen. but what if God did create the world in 7 days what if there was a worldwide flood theat made things like the grand canyon and created millions of fossle deposots around the world. It takes the same amount of faith to believe there isn't a God to believe there Is.

Mar 20 2007 1:36AM
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"Now it is such a bizarrely improbably coincidence that anything so mindbogglingly useful [the Babel fish] could have evolved by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.
The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic."
(Douglas Adams - The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy)

To prove god is to disprove god. Personally, I'm more agnostic. I really stopped believing in Christianity when I found out they claim anything they cannot answer as being incomprehensible for our "human" minds. I try to judge more on the person than their religion. There have been some great people who weren't Christian and there have been some very bad people who were.
Mar 20 2007 2:14AM
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Schmitz
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what about the concept of infinity?
Mar 20 2007 2:40AM
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Schmitz
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In my opinion, God is everything, god is infinity. ya dig?
Mar 20 2007 2:47AM
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Casey
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i just finished a philosophy of religion class... i guess i'll just list some people or stuff that you maybe wanna look up on wikipedia or something...

david hume
immanuel kant
thomas aquinas
richard taylor


telelogical argument (intelligent design)
ontological argument (also see if you can find kant's objection to the ontological argument)

I dunno, i can't remember everything i read about, but, it was some really intersting stuff and I learned a ton about my own beliefs etc. hope that was a little bit helpful
Mar 20 2007 2:49AM
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hoodratz47
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science is a book/ bible is a book.... being spirtual is in your heart!
Mar 20 2007 2:59AM
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Mr_Bojangles
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The Cosmological argument is an a priora argument, meaning that it requires no empirical or phenomenological evidence. It is based on pure logic and reasoning, one such argument is St. Thomas Aquinas' 5 ways, in which he uses logic and reasoning to establish the existence of God.

I'm an athiest and enjoy tearing Thomas Aquinas apart, however logic and reasoning is used to prove the existence of God.
Mar 20 2007 3:22AM
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hippie_cat
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im just going to answer the question:
god, as in the big dude in the sky, is a fabrication of organised religion and is essentially their explanation of whats inside all of us.
do you really think people would have gone to church and stuff if they believed god was inside themselves? i think not.

how do i know this? i dont know
how can i prove this? i cant
Mar 20 2007 4:02AM
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gnarski
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God and Religion are just ways to give reason to unreasonable events; things that cannot be readily explained. If you look at tribes native to parts of Papua New Guinea; every time something that cannot be explained logically occurs it becomes an act of god, or the devil.

I believe that it is all a load of shit to be honest.

good luck
Mar 20 2007 4:57AM
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Casey
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it wasn't really darwin's fault that hitler messed with his ideas for personal gain.
Mar 20 2007 5:29AM
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almostaskier
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assuming God is merely the construct of combined faith and not an actual existing being.
Mar 20 2007 8:13AM
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MrLevel
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I don't believe in anything but myself, and it works for me... start worshipping me :p

Really, I don't need to believe in something bigger and I don't believe there is something like that. Everything can be explained with logic, also the unexplainable things, we just ain't smart enough (yet) to explain those.

Don't mind if people find comfort in "believing", but for me it shows you can't deal with life and death, and everything in between. The human race doesn't filter out genetically the weak like some species do..
Mar 20 2007 8:38AM
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hippie_cat
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good philosophy
Mar 20 2007 8:49AM
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monopatinrider
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You know whats a good movie, Dogma.
Mar 20 2007 8:57AM
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aja_kiki
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here here!!
Mar 20 2007 9:03AM
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