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If you didnt start as a racer, then what should you know ?

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OneEhtie
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I hear that alot of good park skiers started off racing and then tried park and loved it. However I didn't really start off racing and I'm probably not the only one so I would like to know what does racing teach you ? What am I missing ?

Mar 15 2007 4:53PM
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Rajna
Posts: 3824 - Karma: 90
i race on my ski team and i noticed it made me become a stronger skier. For one, your forced to make turns in spots that you might not be used which devolps edge control and allows you to put more confindence in your skiing. It seemed like with me the main thing was i learned how to use every centimeter of my ski and it gave me a lot better feeling for skiing. Which helps freestleye cuz it gives you more balance and more confindece.
Mar 15 2007 5:10PM
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hoodratz47
Posts: 12020 - Karma: 9,475
ummmm how to read the mtn and the fall line.. haul ass good posture and athletic postion, how to wax your skis for 100/th of second. that you realy need to be in good shape to ski. balence, body control, air sence. and of course ego!
Mar 15 2007 5:11PM
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DopeSauce
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I didn't start as a racer either, but I hear it can help alot with mental preparation
Mar 15 2007 5:11PM
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Colt45er
Posts: 1650 - Karma: 336
yea i raced.  if your interested in free skiing dont go through the pain of the program. aha i loved it but thats because i didnt no about free skiing.  Just learn how to carve before you go in the park, if you really wanted me i could tell u some shit to try. 
Mar 15 2007 5:20PM
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roussillon
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I was a racer until 2 years ago. I'm pretty sure it helps me not being lazy in the morning, because I'm used to be on the slopes at 8:30. that's something cool.
Mar 15 2007 5:20PM
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Colt45er
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i think carving is the definiton of shredding the gnar
Mar 15 2007 5:21PM
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hoodratz47
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nothing like laying some track turns on some fresh cords
Mar 15 2007 5:26PM
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Colt45er
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dam havent done that in so long
Mar 15 2007 5:30PM
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OneEhtie
Posts: 79 - Karma: 4
yeah definitly ! im trying to ride my edges more rather than just plow through like i see some people doing ... its helped alot for the little i have proggresed but yes let me know
Mar 15 2007 5:31PM
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Colt45er
Posts: 1650 - Karma: 336
k i will PM you
Mar 15 2007 5:40PM
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hollygrove
Posts: 7845 - Karma: 93
Racing taught me how to ski properly.
YAHOOO
Mar 15 2007 5:45PM
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Bini.
Posts: 760 - Karma: 16
muscle memory and strength, learning how to actually ski/turn/go fast. getting comfortable with high speeds and learning how to control your skis.
Mar 15 2007 5:45PM
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skiwoj
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i have no idea what you are pming him but i don't want to be left out
Mar 15 2007 5:46PM
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Colt45er
Posts: 1650 - Karma: 336
k you want some tips, things to do when actually turning.

1)Keep a wide athletic stance, shoulders width apart.
2) Hands driving forward infront of you.
3) Head up looking infront planning your line.
4) Every turn drive your hand forward. ( Say your turning left pull bolth hands up like your scooping like a spoon and drive forward)
5) When turning always have pressure on the front of your boots!!!

Carving....

In order to carve you need a decent amount of speed.

You want like 90% of your weight on your inside ski (say your turning right your inside ski would be your right ski...) you want your muscles working on the outside ski and the 10% of weight on it.  Say your making a left turn push out with your right ski putting your strength into it and weight on your guiding ski (the left ski) remember to double pole plant gently and and drive your hand forward. http://home.rdbriggs.com/images/LOVELAND_GS_02-12-14.jpg  < make sure to get crunk with the speedsuit ahahaha.

have fun bro, keep workin on it u will get it! search some vids in google. pc brotha

Mar 15 2007 5:58PM
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sconnyFC
Posts: 2197 - Karma: 76
exactly, it teaches you to ski, instead of just being a park-rat
Mar 15 2007 6:10PM
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followCam
Posts: 1907 - Karma: 446
it really does make you more of a comfortable skier,  teaches you about balance, edging and just overall better skiing.
I'd recomend racing or spending time carving and stuff before hitting the park.
Mar 15 2007 6:12PM
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Travapple.
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i wish i coulda done that.....
Mar 15 2007 6:15PM
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Dakoulas
Posts: 2894 - Karma: 40
Take a look at what good technique is and then just spend a bunch of time rippin around the mountain and not just the park. Try to emulate the form you were looking at. Eventually you'll pick it up. You could have millions of people tell you how to do something but the only way you're actually gonna learn is to get out all over the mountain.
Mar 15 2007 6:20PM
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bhill2.0
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My two best friends owned a condo on a hill, they would always go up there and I saw one of there videos, was into skiiing but never went. Then out of the blue my mom said lets go skiing. it was uphill from there started at twice  to three times a year then next yea i got up there like 10 times and this year i started going all over and took it serious. Fun stuff

Mar 15 2007 6:23PM
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asonUnique
Posts: 361 - Karma: 13
it just helps with your overall skiing, i race for my school and that has helped me with carving into jumps in order to spin more, it also gives you more control over your ski when skiing the rest of the mtn
Mar 15 2007 6:24PM
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MitchPee
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I consider myself a pretty good all-around skier and I never raced. So if you're implying all those who ride park and didn't race are park rats, then you're pretty much an idiot.
Mar 15 2007 6:34PM
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N.L.
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you missed out on some douchers ruining the whole idea of skiing for you. be free, rip it, and do whatever makes you happy. if all the racers and mogulers stayed away, their wouldnt be anyone ruining newschool skiing. coaches, judges, parents, etc. all corrupt the idea of freestyle.
Mar 15 2007 7:25PM
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WeK
Posts: 1894 - Karma: 11
i skied over 10 years before I even ventured into the park so i was already a good carver, etc. only reason i wish i raced is so i knew how to wax my skis, i'll prolly go have a friend teach me this summer.

also when carving, i was doing a psia thing and they told us its really important to learn 10oclock->2oclock. Most people lean 10, then let off pressure, and relean to 2, instead they said go right from 10 to 2. you can notice you carve way better but its really tiring
Mar 15 2007 7:35PM
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prophet
Posts: 4734 - Karma: 1,007
ummmmmmmmm.... wrong.

dont stand on your inside ski, youll fall over. dont scoop with your hands... dont do any of that shit... just keep your chest pointing down the fall line. thats enough to know for now.
Mar 15 2007 7:36PM
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KG_
Posts: 2198 - Karma: 20
thats all skiin gwas a few short yrs ago, racing. n the racers that got bored n found other things to ski, n park was born
Mar 15 2007 7:37PM
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Colt45er
Posts: 1650 - Karma: 336
umm  ok bud  ive been racing for 10 years.  ya you put little weight on the inside, you put pressure, and dont lean in.  he said he wanted to carve not ski..... read the thread more before u post
Mar 15 2007 7:44PM
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FigmentFilmski
Posts: 1639 - Karma: 266
it makes you an excellent skier, everyhting listed above, nothing bad about it...you should learn skiing that way so you dont just do tricks but you know how to ski
Mar 15 2007 7:45PM
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KillerMonkey
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My dad has taught me all my basic skiing skills. I started off at age 3 and I've never taken a formal lesson. And now I'm a ski instructor ironically. I can ski everything and anything pretty much.
Mar 15 2007 7:56PM
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prophet
Posts: 4734 - Karma: 1,007
you wanna ski fast, you copy this guy here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1mtcYuyjTw

then maybe watch kreitler or rahlves rip big mountain... then watch jon... put it all together, thats what youre potentially missing out on.

sorry colt45dude... ive raced plenty too, im just saying... that was unclear... all youve gotta do is keep your chest going down the hill with your weight over your outside ski... then, when you unweight going across the hill... dive your chest down the hill again so you carve the top of the turn. the end. then watch andy do it backwards.... then go do sw 1 to 180 pillow line.
Mar 15 2007 9:00PM
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chickenwang
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how to turn
Mar 15 2007 9:15PM
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chickenwang
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oh and how to rock emo clothes

Mar 15 2007 9:17PM
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garrett.
Posts: 9304 - Karma: 3,670
i never raced but skiing at alyeska where there is no park and the only jumps to hit are natrual and to hit jumps and go big and land and not die u have to be able to ski
Mar 15 2007 9:32PM
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tride
Posts: 1038 - Karma: 26
Ok, you're either very confused or simply making a bad joke.

You are seriously trying to tell someone to put 90% of their weight on their INSIDE ski??? And you say that you have been racing for years? Time to find a new coach....

Anyways, 2 of the most important things about racing, carving, and skiing in general are:

-Weight the OUTSIDE ski (ie: if you are turning to the right, your weight should be on your left leg.
-Stay in the front of the boot at all times (you should feel your shin pressing into the toungue of the boot.

Mar 15 2007 9:33PM
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unchyll
Posts: 4554 - Karma: 96
i started snowboarding wehn i was like 9ish then after like ayear of that i started skiing took one lesson and i was good to go. I even treid out for race team like 2 years ago at my school so i would be able to just go ski instead of school and made the team but i quit cus you have to practice with the team every weekend and racing is gay
Mar 15 2007 9:37PM
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jca
Posts: 4171 - Karma: 6,311
your on crack.
you have to have about 80% of preasure on your outside ski and 20 on your inside. Also you have keep your body facing down the falline at all times and angulate and inclinate
which means inclination is how far you ar leaning over and angulation is like keeping your upper body upright and having your lower legs do all the work. If you inclinate too much then you will skid out and fall over so you have to angulate your legs and keep your body upright.
Also you should learn pivoting and pressure control.
All in all racing teaches you many different ways to be a solid skier and you can apply all of these techniques into freeskiing.
Mar 15 2007 9:39PM
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jca
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you dont have to put very much pressure on the front of your boot, you have to stay centered and never lean back.
Also you can start you turns with lots of pressure on the tongue of your boot and as you work through the turn push the skis forward and get more in the back of your boot
Mar 15 2007 9:46PM
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tride
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Riiiight, have fun with that.
Mar 15 2007 9:48PM
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jca
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seriously try it
my coach was like try all of these different things and that actually works
Mar 15 2007 9:50PM
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steezy-joe
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i raced for like 3 years. and form is all you get from raceing. and stronger legs and core. and you get waaaaaay more comfertble on your skis. but you have to figure out rails and jumps for yourself. but it helps to be fitter and strognger.
Mar 15 2007 9:51PM
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billy092
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he was implying no such thnig. he just said that if you race you genreally will have great form all over the mtn. and bye using the term park rat i think he was grouping together the skiers that dont step out side the park and the only time they ski at speed is when they dropping for a jump. which obivously does not apply to you
Mar 15 2007 10:00PM
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tjski
Posts: 5859 - Karma: 44
it teaches you balance, and you learn how to use your edges well.. more freestyle skiers stared in mougles
Mar 15 2007 10:32PM
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OneEhtie
Posts: 79 - Karma: 4
whats a falline ?

Mar 15 2007 10:54PM
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MALONE
Posts: 3819 - Karma: 73
ski for two years everyday and THEN ski park you be sickter brao
Mar 15 2007 10:56PM
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