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9/11 video you havent seen

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newschooler8924
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im not taking a side but its a lot more interesting then fuckign loose change.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5182535448932065917
Mar 6 2007 3:10AM
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RudyGarmisch
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*sigh*

Well, I know it would be nice to believe that there was more to do with the Twin Towers, but come on. All the footage in that was speculation and people being confused, scared and overcautious from the attacks. And the bomb blast that HBO apparently cut out? Secondary structural failures. The towers didn't collapse completely flat, the bang might have been a beam snapping or something as the rubble shifted. 

I know its fun to believe we can be like Mel Gibson and uncover a huge conspiracy theory and reveal the truth to all. But come on, this isn't Hollywood. Stop living in a paranoid fantasy world where all corporations and governments are evil institutions out to confuse and mislead the public. This is the real world, where party politics uncover any scandal or coverup, no matter how small.  While I agree that the 9/11 report was rather lacking, the conspiracy theories surrounding this day in American history should be considered no more than pure fiction.
Mar 6 2007 3:24AM
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newschooler8924
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you fucking moron i just posted it, do you see me saying OHHHH BUSH DID IT!!!! and yea your right that really sounds like a beam snapping. lol
Mar 6 2007 4:11AM
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newschooler8924
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there were two very loud booms in single second, and your excuse is it was a beam breaking or rubble moving?
Mar 6 2007 4:13AM
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skier_boy26
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yes, Rowen, *sigh* indeed.

What is remarkable about this, well, there are several things. One, its just another google/youtube/anybodycanmakeanything clip, made by somebody who hates the Bush Administration. Ok, thats fine, bias never hurts. But once again, its just miscontrued evidence. Taking little bits of information at the time and making a claim for it. Same type of argument that WTC7 was a controlled demolition; mostly based on early, scanty suppositions.
And talk about a bad point for a movie, it didn't do what it tried to do... at all...
Mar 6 2007 4:29AM
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nzskiierolly
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i tell you what...

1) even if this is true, the government would never admit it! NEVER

2) if it is true, then holy shit!

3) no matter what happened, thousands of innocent people died and that sucks and we should always talk about it with respect

churr
Mar 6 2007 5:41AM
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unchyll
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how do you know anymore than us but from what your opinion is based on???
anything is possible and america isnt all truthful
theres been so many scandals and fuck ups that the government try to hide like MKultra where they fucking killed people by slipping acid into their drinks and shit and putting them in solitary chambers where they lose all their senses and their brain just goes wild then shooting soldiers up in one arm with a shit load of speed and the other a huge dose of downers so he basicaly goes insane and dies shits crazy son i might be kinda drunk but its still the truth
Mar 6 2007 5:43AM
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skisebski
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bush and his team are a bunch of tools anyway.
Mar 6 2007 6:14AM
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leckett1
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yes seb
Mar 6 2007 9:14AM
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nitsua
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holy shit. thats kinda creepy. that video makes it seem real. i belive it
Mar 6 2007 9:35AM
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adam.
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*sigh*

i am getting tired of these threads, i may feel bad about 9/11 but lets leave it behind us
Mar 6 2007 9:56AM
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Goobie
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why does it matter if there were bombs in the bottom people still died and that sucks
Mar 6 2007 10:00AM
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MitchPee
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See you're talking about scandals and such. This wouldn't be a scandal, and it's not just a few people killed by acid (which was military testing and was wrong no doubt) it's a fucking mass undermining of the American population. It's not like anything ever seen in American history, and that's why it couldn't have been set up.
Mar 6 2007 10:35AM
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MitchPee
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Wow.

You're saying you wouldn't even care if the US government actually did do it (which they didn't). That's pretty sad.
Mar 6 2007 10:36AM
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EL_FINRE
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i agree
Mar 6 2007 10:37AM
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newschooler8924
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yes that is true but it has been seen by oter countries.(germany,israel,russia,china) false flag attacks as a basis for an agenda have happened. im not saying thats what happend but i do think it is more of a possibility then most think
Mar 6 2007 7:54PM
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newschooler8924
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8378726085939575248&q=controlled+demolition

Mar 6 2007 8:01PM
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hoodratz47
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i did it....
Mar 6 2007 8:04PM
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killabees
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^ its true i was there

crazy crazy night
Mar 6 2007 8:05PM
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[~_~]
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you DICK!!!
Mar 6 2007 8:14PM
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derbski
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yeah thats right, HBO is in on the secret too, but nobody who worked at HBO would ever leak that info ever, would they?

and they said that the FBI had believed that there was a van with explosives, now, if the government was being careful of what HBO showed, dont you think that the FBI would also get the heads up not to talk about explosives.

these fucking theories are such bullshit
Mar 6 2007 8:17PM
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Galli
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can i just say newschooler23953whatever.... please stop believing any of these loose change videos, this video you posted and any other sort of consirircy theory about 9-11, you need to understand that it wasnt... you believing ANY of this just shows your lack of intelligence
Mar 6 2007 8:20PM
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newschooler8924
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so why did they edit the explosions out? seriously how many people would it take to do that? hmmmm maybe ONE!!?!?!?! get a fucking clue its not like the people who work on deadwood are in on it too.
Mar 6 2007 8:21PM
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CZA
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im pretty sure the one guy claimed there was a van parked inside the building
Mar 6 2007 8:22PM
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ECGove
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well i dont think some crazy arabs with towels on there heads just waltzed into the buildings with some duffel bags full of bombs...so  the government must have planted them

Mar 6 2007 8:31PM
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MitchPee
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Nothing is comparable to 9/11...it's beyond size in any "mysterious" homeland attack.
Mar 6 2007 8:41PM
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doritos
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Here is the thing that debunks all 9/11 conspiracies...

What motivation does the Bush administration have to do it?
If their intent is to inspire fear in the American public so that they had more control, then...
Why didn't they include WTC7 in the reports? If they actually blew it up, why wouldn't they throw that in there to help their point a little more? Why would they blow up WTC7 to begin with? Clearly blowing up 1 and 2 was enough to get them into Iraq. They wouldn't blow up an entire building and expect no one to notice it, if they're going to kill thousands of their own innocent people, it would be done flawlessly. There wouldn't be room for error. I just applied it to WTC7, but it can be used to debunk pretty much any point the conspiracy theorists have.

As someone else said, this isn't Hollywood. This is the real world. As dumb as Bush is, he wouldn't kill thousands of his own people and expect to get away with it. Ever.
Mar 6 2007 8:51PM
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doritos
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The other thing that this video completely disregards is the following...

For HBO to have deliberately deleted frames, they would have had to be told about it. If fucking HBO is in on it, then there are hundreds of others, too. You really think Bush expected all of them to keep quiet. Even if it is just the Bush, a few close officials, and (stupidest thing ever) HBO who knows, you think there would be no one at HBO decent enough to come out with the truth? More importantly, why would Bush trust such volatile information to HBO and the media in the first place!? These theories are ridiculous... all of them can be disproved by simple common sense.
Mar 6 2007 8:55PM
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pns513
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i agree
Mar 6 2007 9:02PM
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derbski
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you are stupid, to get part of a clip removed wouldnt just slip under the radar for all of the people who have seen the clip, and who took part in making the movie, and you still didnt answer my question, if the big bad government was going to censor what HBO put out, why wouldnt they make sure that the FBI didnt say that thet thought that there were bombs in the building
Mar 6 2007 9:56PM
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newschooler8924
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the clip was removed so actually it did slip under the radar. and did you ever think that if it was an inside job that not all of the tens of thousands of fbi employees knew about it? you have no right to call me stupid when you post shit like this. the two explosions sounded exactly like the explosions in the controlled demo vid i posted above, hbo cut that. but of course its just another thing that is meaningless to most. i think its pretty fucking interesting
Mar 6 2007 10:24PM
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derbski
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yah you keep saying you think its interesting, but you completely disregard anything that people are saying on the other side, the one that makes more sense. If you find it so interesting listen to what other people are saying, and what Im saying is that there is one HUGE thing missing from all of these theories, and that is a good explanation of a motive for the governtment to EVER do this.
Mar 6 2007 10:28PM
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doritos
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Exactly. I've said this several times here, as have a few other people, and we have provided legitimate evidence for this point, and no one can refute it. That's because it's the truth, and until the conspiracy theorists can answer that their whole argument is void. Extra explosions? A huge part of a building was burning after a fucking plane hit it. A lot of shit could've happened. All of that may be weird, but it has some explanation. Until you can tell me why our government would do this given our points, and why they would consider it worth the outrageous risk, I find everything you say invalid.
Mar 6 2007 10:33PM
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C-Burg
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i saw his take a dookie in the urinal
Mar 6 2007 10:38PM
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newschooler8924
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dude, you dont see what happened after 9.11? all the legislation and contracts for military and oil companies? larry silverstein made tens of millions of dollars. i guess i should believe its all a coincidence. did you not see the two videos i posted? the two explosions sound identical to the ones in the controlled demo video and my government doesnt give any good explanation . what do you think silverstein was talking about when he told "them" to "pull it" (wtc 7) so im fucking sorry for not seeing all of this as a coincidence. there is much more too.
Mar 6 2007 10:39PM
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C-Burg
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The one word that describes that situation is chaos. People didnt know what was going on and they could have believed a bomb was in the building. Dont forget that wasnt the first attack on the towers. In 1993 it was bombed so it is more than likely that the firefighters could assume that there is a bomb in the building. Use common sense
Mar 6 2007 10:40PM
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newschooler8924
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talking about common sense. listen to the 2 booms in the first video then watch the second video.
Mar 6 2007 10:43PM
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C-Burg
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anything could have made those booms, like jet fuel exploding. Also, it is plausible that they were added in.
Mar 6 2007 10:44PM
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newschooler8924
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fuck this, i could provide you with a tape of karl rove himself saying he orchastrated the whole fucking thing and you would still think its bullshit. at least acknowledge the two explosions sound exactly like the ones in the 2nd video. you cannot deny that
Mar 6 2007 10:46PM
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C-Burg
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what does karl rove have to do with this?
Mar 6 2007 10:49PM
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doritos
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Are you out of your mind? The fact they sound the same makes it MORE likely they were added in. Think about it. The videos were shot from two different locations. There's going to be different distances, different shit in the way, different angles, etc. That would change how they sound. If they sound the exact same, it's more likely some dipshit found an explosion recording and threw it in there. Then it would sound the same, no?

And answer the motivation questions, please. As I said.. your argument is void and pointless without that.
Mar 6 2007 10:55PM
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doritos
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I just realized you may be talking about the two explosions from the same shot... same thing, pretty easy for someone to take a sound file and GASP repeat it...
Mar 6 2007 10:57PM
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newschooler8924
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wow you fucking idiots think the two explosions were added in ? im sure the firefighters in the clip were actors too right? like when they reacted to the explosions that was fake right? bombs sound like fucking bombs you dipshit, it doesnt matter if there is a difference in fucking elevation.
Mar 6 2007 10:58PM
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skier_boy26
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you are pathetic
Mar 6 2007 11:35PM
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derbski
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compare post 9 11 america to pre 9 11 america, we are in a shithole. Somebody gained 10s of millions? YOUR FUCKING DUMB, and heres why, ready for this.... the government is in trillions of dollars of deficit compared to pre 9 11, so once again, who in the government gained from 9 11?
consider yourself officialy debunked
Mar 7 2007 12:04AM
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Elijah.
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Who took a deuce in the urinal?
Mar 7 2007 12:52AM
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eheath
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I've seen it WHAT NOW.



I actually haven't and never will.
Mar 7 2007 1:02AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Haha, you fucking try to flame me right off the bat, nice job asshole! It takes a real genius to see that my reply was not only about the video but about the general response I predicted we'd see emerge in the resulting discussion. And, reading what people have read, I pretty much was 100% with that prediction. I'll stand by what I said.

Believe what you want, think you're part of something important that will overturn everything we've come to assume! Hey, also, check out http://www.timecube.com, they have some stuff I'm sure you'd agree with. Keep fighting that power, the world is really just like "The X-files"...
Mar 7 2007 1:27AM
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newschooler8924
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you keep asking what america gained, america is me and you my friend. you should be asking what karl rove and exxon gained after 9/11. bush isnt going to have to pay the debt when he gets out of office next year. you havent looked into this at all, i suggest you get a basic understanding of why people think it was our own government before you start slinging 5th grade insults.
Mar 7 2007 2:45AM
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C.J.
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if you even almost believe that, you are a FUCKING MORON!
Mar 7 2007 2:50AM
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