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Learning tricks on water ramps is NOT skiing

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JahSpriggs
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period...............learn it on snow
Mar 5 2007 11:48AM
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manoman
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the definition of skiing i think would have to do with being on fucking snow, i am tyred of these mother fucking water ramp kids on this mother fuckin mountain.Dont claim shit you do there. I think you could put a fucking fat girl on skis and water ramp and she can do a backflip.
Mar 5 2007 6:17PM
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Silence
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if you can only throw tricks on water ramps and trampolines then you arent a skier, but if you can throw down on snow - REGARDLESS of how you learnt/practised, then it doesn't matter - i'd say it is a fantastic way to get better and use available resources.
Mar 5 2007 6:21PM
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hollygrove
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spot on my friend
Mar 5 2007 7:44PM
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tSki
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i have to completely disagree. Doing a trick on a water ramp isnt skiing. But learning it there, then throwing it on snow is. If no one used water ramps our sport woudlnt b where it is today. You think jon could have learned all these crazy doubles w out getting hurt on snow? I highly doubt it. But now he can throw them on snow and it is dope
Mar 5 2007 7:51PM
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mattwalker
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any trick that you throw on snow is skiing, whether you learned it on ramps or on snow. but, if you go and practice a trick over 500 times on a water jump. then you use a retarted amount of sponsor money to build a jump to the exact same specifications of your water ramp jump... it kinda takes the fun, adrenaline and variables out of the whole sacking up and throwing it over a table, and only like 5 skiers can afford to do that. but i dont like doubles to begin with hahaha
Mar 5 2007 9:30PM
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Literature
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Skiing is what you make it. I don't consider skiing to be water ramps, but that would not stop me from hitting them up. Why does anyone on this site feel the obligation to tell others what skiing is when the true beauty of the sport has to do with the freedom to make of it what you want?
Mar 5 2007 9:35PM
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jea_killa
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YOUR NOT SKIING BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 5 2007 9:36PM
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adam.
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thank you, you saved me 5 minutes of my life that i will never get back
Mar 5 2007 9:47PM
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skithedirt
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i think this thread is pointless if a fucking person wants to do a trick wherever they feel like it personally fucking illinois has summer so we dick around on the trampoline but other than that to learn new tricks i think about it play it out in my head then put my headphones on play some good music and throw it
Mar 5 2007 9:52PM
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s.jeff
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thats right, aint nothin wrong with water ramps
Mar 5 2007 10:20PM
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tride
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Well, shit, you're so right, it's not skiing.

And hey, doing a trick before the competition is not competing either, so quit being a pussy and practicing tricks before the event, and while we're on the subject of cheating, quit hitting jumps to make it easier to get airtime.

Since you are so "core", you should really never do any tricks, until the time of a big competition, at which time you should ollie off of a natural feature and throw some huge rotation/flip that nobody has ever attempted before, sticking the shit out of it first try and revelling in your state of hardcore radness.

Mar 5 2007 11:03PM
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jonaolsson
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I assume you talk about me with the " retarted amount of sponsor money to build a jump to the exact same specifications of your water ramp jump" and I think you might be bliind...

A water ramp looks like a freestyle double.... I am pretty sure a freestyle double is pretty far from a 70 foot step up... 2 compleatly differnt jumps...

And no, we did not pay to have this jump made... but they made it for us because we worked our as of for the last 7 years, getting us to where we are....

Spriggs, stop beeing a dumbass....

Mar 5 2007 11:15PM
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johnnypsunami
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why would you risk injurying yourself when you could hit something with less consequences?
Mar 5 2007 11:37PM
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tjski
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Mar 5 2007 11:41PM
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montanaskier
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you are good at skiing and water ramping. please keep practicing at the pools then bringing your skills to snow and filming them for the rest of us humans to enjoy. thanks.
Mar 5 2007 11:52PM
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philly@MT
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ya Jon
Mar 6 2007 12:04AM
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CTD
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yea. chris ashcraft (midwest rep for 4frnt) and his pop, who owns a construction company are putting it together. its way legit. theres a ton of other cool shit there too, skateparks, etc.
Mar 6 2007 12:21AM
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SHastatahoe
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Didn't Mike Douglas start doing Dspins and stuff on water ramps? Isnt that where our nice little sport of freesking was born? Please correct me if I'm wrong. which I'm not.
Mar 6 2007 12:26AM
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armadaskier
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Spriggs, this is hypocritical of you to say this, seeing that you spent your summers at SMS up on the Whistler glacier. I'm sure you were hitting water ramps then.

If you want to make this game even harder, maybe you should have learned tricks on East Coast ice, rather than on the perfectly groomed jumps in Vail's park or Colorado powder.

Mar 6 2007 12:31AM
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whattheshit
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just do whatever makes you most comfortable and confident when the time comes to try it on snow.  some people learn different ways.  so your opinion doesn't matter. 
Mar 6 2007 12:32AM
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tha_CF
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haha i dont know whether to agree with u or not, as because one of my friends hit the water ramps in park city, and said its not at all like skiing, and really hard to get used to. so i wouldnt know how it transfers.

Mar 6 2007 12:35AM
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freeskier1316
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o this thread is so silly it makes me giggle like a little school girl.......NOT, but seriously water ramps are the way to go less pain







This isn't my signature you just think it is
Mar 6 2007 12:42AM
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SHastatahoe
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Alright Spriggs, You signed a poster on my wall but I'm actually going to bring up another point that many people will get mad at.


What about rails? Rails arnt snow. . . is it still skiing? What about when people do urban rails? there is only like a few inches of snow. what if people start just putting that fake snow stuff up, wouldnt it be much more efficient?

w/ rails your not touching the snow while doin your shit, neither are you while jumping. the similarity is that you have skis on, making it skiing.

Mar 6 2007 12:45AM
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WestCoast_Hitman
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Ya your best bet is to wait until a really super super cold icy day with bad visability then just go huck a fucking rodeo 1260.
Mar 6 2007 12:54AM
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Troop801
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Creater is ghey.
Mar 6 2007 12:57AM
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zaser
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LEARNIGG TRIX ON TRAMPOPLINES ISNT SKIING!! STOP BOUNCING ON THE TRAMPOLINE IN YER YARD YOU FUCCKCING FOOOOOL!
Mar 6 2007 1:25AM
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BobYohan
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i completely agree. fuck mini-park progression on snow too, noone should be allowed to hit jumps under 50 feet cuz that shit just aint hardcore enough.
Mar 6 2007 1:36AM
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Silence
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give us footage of the sw doublecorks
Mar 6 2007 2:08AM
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JGP.
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nahhhh dude, save it for the movies.....
Mar 6 2007 7:21AM
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Roussel
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well, he is right, its NOT skiing.

but its there to practice your skiing.
Mar 6 2007 9:23AM
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mckeeman
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Officially the dumbest pro comment on this site.

You even contradicted yourself.
"...whereas the water ramps are almost spot on!"

your a good skier dude, but how can you justify that water ramps are not skiing. Its the perfect training for skiing...sorry - tricking.

so then all those urban rails you do isnt skiing either.

Lets see how tough you are when you eat shit on a new trick next time.

PS. Vail Hospital can suck deez nutz.




Mar 6 2007 1:29PM
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mckeeman
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HAH hHAH HAHH HAHAH HAHHA HAHH HAH
that made my morning.
I believe you just got told.
Mar 6 2007 1:32PM
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littlebrainer
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Lets just et this thread die and work its way to the back pages never to be seen again ..... crap I just bumped it .. oh well
Mar 6 2007 1:36PM
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Krish
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jon olsson on NS... sweet. Props to you!
Mar 6 2007 1:43PM
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aidansheahan
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Hmm, why is jon the best in the world????? Oh yeah, hes a perfectionest, he does his tricks 5000000000 times on water ramps and snow, than 5000000000 more times in his head, that is why he looks like a robot, and that is why he has never been hurt. Cool huh?
Mar 6 2007 2:04PM
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freeskier2424
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i think the point being made here is that you need no actual skiing skill to hit water ramps. although the air time and lack of a painful landing make them nice, it is not skiing. there is no snow involved...isn't that a key ingrediant in skiing? i'm not dissing on people who hit water ramps, i just agree that it cannot be considered skiing. that means no claiming when you haven't done it on snow yet. and to who ever said that thing about rails not being skiing because you're not touching snow, what do you ski on before and land on after? snow right? well at least that's how i do it...
Mar 6 2007 2:20PM
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T-Wash
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Ya this is why skiing is spin to win because people that learn these crazy tricks off a water ramp bring them to the snow. i know most people here hate spin to win so you can thank water ramps for that
Mar 6 2007 2:23PM
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dan_avoN7
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all you haters who say water ramps are gay are just jealous that some people have the resources to be able to use them. hell if I could spend a day at a water ramp I'd be trying all sorts of stuff that I'm sketchy about learning. And if I get comfortable on the ramps then I can bring it to the snow. It's all about progression and the water ramps are def. helping out for people.
Mar 6 2007 2:46PM
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mckeeman
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your the fucking fool.

how are you supposed to see the trick in the air. The more you spin it, the more you see of the trick.

Mar 6 2007 3:08PM
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Triple_Strum
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I can't believe this thread was created. The problem here lies not in water ramps, trampolines, or tricks, but in pride and a lack of self-confidence and security. John Spriggs clearly stated that he is highly concerned with how other people have fun because he wants people to say "That guy learned tricks without a ramp, he is a badass". YOU are the one who is holding back skiing by judging how other people have fun. Would it affect you at all if someone went out and threw a triple backflip and claimed he could do it on snow? No. You are merely concerned with how you look to others.

Let people learn the way they want, have fun the way they want, and as a pro, encourage them and help them learn - not try to make someone feel bad or hype yourself because of a differential in how you learned.
Mar 6 2007 3:16PM
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aidansheahan
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^Correct
Mar 6 2007 3:46PM
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crunkasfuck
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well if you learn it on water ramps then do it on snow its fine!
Mar 6 2007 4:00PM
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bpalmer
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i wonder if corey vanular learned his rodeo 810 onto that rail at a water ramp.....


just the fact that jon olsson owned matt walker in a newschoolers thread is absolutely worth the drama of the thread.
Mar 6 2007 7:01PM
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bpalmer
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i wonder if corey vanular learned his rodeo 810 onto that rail at a water ramp.....


just the fact that jon olsson owned matt walker in a newschoolers thread is absolutely worth the drama of the thread. plus having symms and vanular jump in too was a nice bonus.
Mar 6 2007 7:02PM
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freeskier2424
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^hahaha good point
Mar 6 2007 7:03PM
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jos-in-nz
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Spriggs......ur just mad that jon has sicker dubs that you do! haha whats up man??
Mar 6 2007 7:19PM
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mattwalker
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ok, sorry, my bad on the sponsor comment. thats sick that PC respects you that much to build a jump for you, i wish everybody got that much respect after working for that long. i have lived in PC for the last few summers and worked at the water ramps there. there are many more jumps than just the double, and i have never been to australia's ramps, so i dont know what you learned on, but somebody said that last years JOI jump was the same degree takeoff as the water ramp you learned it on, so i assumed this PC jump was the same degree too. again, im not bashing on learning it on water ramping, its much safer, but i have more respect for kids that just visualize a double then throw it on snow.
Mar 6 2007 8:00PM
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huntpip29
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ya, first off, i think jon is aware that learning tricks on a water tramp is not skiing. but jon doesnt get seriously hurt that often and he learns some sick ski moves, so ya for him it is a good mehtod of learning tricks. so i dont have anything wrong with that
Mar 6 2007 8:07PM
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aidansheahan
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^he never has/never will get hurt(knock on wood) as long as he is a perfectionist.....go jon!
Mar 6 2007 8:34PM
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aidansheahan
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and yeah to go with matt, lets agree to never do doubles ok you ginger!
Mar 6 2007 8:35PM
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