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Falling in the Park

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bedheadben
Posts: 99 - Karma: 10
Okay, so I was thinking about trying some new tricks in the park, on some normal size jumps (15-25 feet, South Park at Mammoth for those of you who know). I am currently clearing every jump in the line, and doing mute's, shifty japan's, etc. and I was thinking of trying a 360 and/or a backflip. The one thing I was worried about is how mad people seem to get when someone falls on one of the jumps, that and there the next person would land on me before they knew I had fallen. Oh ya, one last thing, I have had 6 major concussions in my life and don't want to get tooo many more, so avoiding landing on my head would be a good thing. Opinions, suggestions, flaming, etc. welcome.
Feb 23 2007 1:57AM
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unchyll
Posts: 4554 - Karma: 96
well some times a snowboarder will get on your ass but they'll ususaly dogde you
Feb 23 2007 2:05AM
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bedheadben
Posts: 99 - Karma: 10
Oh ya, a few more things. I am scared $h!tless to land switch, or take off switch for that matter, so no 180's for me at the moment.
Feb 23 2007 3:13AM
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carbon.pulse
Posts: 3348 - Karma: 22
quit sking.




but really just try to progress at your own rate. For me it helps if I have a few good runs at what I can do so I get pumped to try something neew.
Feb 23 2007 3:21AM
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IanIsBored2000
Posts: 210 - Karma: 10
Thanks for being an asshole. Anyways, ive heard people say backflips are easier, but thats hard to beleive and their definately more intimidating. But you could defintalry land a 3. You sound waaay better than me, all i can do is like safetys and reqally bad mutes, nothing other than hopping 90 on 90 off on boxes/rails, and last weeek i decided to try 3's, first i didnt commmit, ladned 270, but didnt really hurt, next I landed backseat, but I overrotated a little, and this was a crappy like 7 foot kid park jump. I wanted to learn on something small, so I knew i wouldnt stall out on a big kicker and land backwards or sideways or something, even though I found it didnt really hurt. So now that IO know I can over rotate a jump that small, itll jsut be a matter of handling more air. So, my answer, I think you should def. go for a 3.
Feb 23 2007 7:27AM
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Armanzoid
Posts: 2453 - Karma: 26
That many concussions? Dude, get a better helmet.
Feb 23 2007 8:22AM
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=Carson=
Posts: 665 - Karma: 24
Yeah im up there with concussions (8) but just commit and don't worry if you fall, you cant learn without falling.
Feb 23 2007 11:13AM
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KillerMonkey
Posts: 6436 - Karma: 109
try a kang flip, i hear theyre pretty easy, just make sure you commit
Feb 23 2007 11:16AM
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nitsua
Posts: 4631 - Karma: 726
id say try 360s first there not that bad you just have to commit
Feb 23 2007 11:19AM
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Rez4frederick
Posts: 4740 - Karma: 40
360 bro for sure, backflips arent that cool anyway and kind of have high consequences.
Just keep getting sessioning the park and making your straight airs really smooth.  Skiing with another good skier who can do 3's will help your confidence alot.  When you feel real comfortable in the air and u are hitting the transitions perfect everytime, now is the time to 3.  Like i said, watching and skiing with a buddy will help you.  Just sack up and get ready to 3 on that next lip.  Get comfortable speed going and dont be backseat.  Be ready for the lip cause timing is what can hurt you on a 3, dont start your spin to early, wait til you know your skis have left the snow.  Just do it pencil style first to get the rotation down.  you can bring steeze later when you are landing them like every time.  imagine just running up to a cliff and doing a 360 on your feet and that is basically what u do on skis, but faster.

As far as crashing, it will happen no matter what usually if you are pushing yourself to new tricks.  Just immediately get out of the way of the landing.  If your ski is there, just move away first, and make sure its clear, then go grab it.  if someone hits it and wrecks its their own fault.  Just make sure your body is way clear always.
Feb 23 2007 11:33AM
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DietCoke
Posts: 1317 - Karma: 7
i also hate falling on landings especially if you lose a ski cause then youre like walking back up the landing to get it and feel like someones def gonna hit it not realizing youre there and then either you or them or both end up getting fucked up. bad times.
Feb 23 2007 11:38AM
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ECfreeski3
Posts: 12019 - Karma: 126
definitely start with a 360, theyre so easy if you commit. and ski the park with a buddy who will spot for you and stand on the jump and x it off if you fall so people wont hit it while yorue down.
and dont worry about shit talkers, every park has them and theyre usually the kids who cant throw shit.
Feb 23 2007 12:22PM
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N.Diddy
Posts: 1469 - Karma: 57
the only people that care are snowboarders
if ur on the landing they flip out
Feb 23 2007 12:37PM
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bigwhite.steeze
Posts: 8227 - Karma: 1,030
DONT B-FILP NOOB!

i think the people you were talking to want you to get hurt....if you cant even do a 3, dont do a backflip off a park jump...just dont
Feb 23 2007 12:41PM
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IanIsBored2000
Posts: 210 - Karma: 10
woops sorry my bad a_dubs....I saw where you wrote "quit skiing so i thought you were just being an asshole so i yelled at you, but I didnt notice the part where you said you were just kidding..so ahhh ya sorry for getting pissed, i jsut hate when kids say shit to people learning.
Feb 23 2007 4:17PM
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Wis_Skier_23
Posts: 2263 - Karma: 245
if you are not sure that you will land it just say to the people behind you in line for the park give me some room.....works for me
Feb 23 2007 4:31PM
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mmmmm...Pie
Posts: 673 - Karma: 15
Ironically, they're the ones who usually fuck people up by sitting around everywhere. I almost jumped on one the other day, but I saw him right before I committed to the jump.
Feb 23 2007 4:33PM
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AKdiv
Posts: 196 - Karma: 10
I'd try learning to spin a 3 off of the smallest jumps there. Mammoth has such a great variety of jumps, you should be have to find something ideal, like a 5' table.

As for people getting pissed if you fall on a jump, (a) I don't think there are many people like that (everybody with balls falls); and (b) fuck those people anyway. I don't care if you're name is Pep Tanner Pollard Morrison, you shouldn't get bitchy when someone falls on a jump unless they cut you off or hit a jump when it wasn't clear.

Last, wear a helmet.
Feb 23 2007 4:51PM
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unchyll
Posts: 4554 - Karma: 96
well if your afraid to do a 180 then dont expect to progress real fast i mean shit dude you can spot your landing the whole way
Feb 23 2007 5:25PM
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freezed
Posts: 12973 - Karma: 500
the South Park line is pretty prime right now for learning stuff...The jumps are medium sized and pretty nice take offs.

I'll be up there this weekend, come say hello, I'll be on MSPs, I've got like earth tone helly clothes, silver mirror scott goggles.
Feb 23 2007 5:26PM
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Eastcoast157
Posts: 155 - Karma: 13
just do it bro
Feb 23 2007 6:18PM
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steeze540
Posts: 96 - Karma: 12
dont fall so much and were a brain bucket
Feb 23 2007 6:28PM
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S2daJ
Posts: 919 - Karma: 10
helmets dont help, and seriously just dont jump any more. 6 major concussions is insane. honestly skiing is fun but not worth it.. 6 MAJOR CONCUSSSIONS!!! im iin awe that you can even talk.
Feb 23 2007 6:32PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
Posts: 2804 - Karma: -5
haha im with this guy. helmets wouldve helped before, but now... i would just take it really easy. no backflips!
Feb 23 2007 6:48PM
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Steezysmurf
Posts: 1663 - Karma: 3
before you go, just shout "everybody, I am a beginner, so give me so make sure i am clear of the landing first!", the make sure everybody says OK and/or promises

and if you can, try to get someone record you saying this and post it on NS
Feb 23 2007 7:07PM
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BurgRider
Posts: 1597 - Karma: 17
landing switch is easier than landing forward.

not even joking
Feb 23 2007 7:59PM
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Steezysmurf
Posts: 1663 - Karma: 3
buddy, its softer landing but if you dont really know how to look over your shoulder to spot (which isnt the easiest thing to master) then it is harder
Feb 23 2007 8:03PM
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max.
Posts: 2022 - Karma: 12
did u read his whole post?

anyway, Id go for a three. Generally when u fall noone gets mad unless there a complete asshole.
Feb 23 2007 9:14PM
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cpas_
Posts: 349 - Karma: 22
Try 3s I was just like you but I'm starting to get them now and its rad.
Feb 23 2007 9:31PM
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mtbakerteacher
Posts: 4185 - Karma: 20
Definately start with a 3. Backflips take pow to learn, and its february haha. For your three make sure you dont spin too early (like somebody said) or you'll hit the lip of the jump (this is common haha). When you spin, look over your shoulder and bring your torso around so that its facing the direction you want to land, your skis will follow. As for the switch thing, just ski down an easy green run the whole way switch to get comfortable with it.
Feb 23 2007 9:43PM
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TylerS
Posts: 2720 - Karma: 49
try em when not a lot of people are in the park or on a jump that no one is hitting if youre worried about someone running over you.
Feb 23 2007 9:54PM
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MadSteezin
Posts: 4572 - Karma: 936
i'd say fuck those people and have someone next to the jump to tell people not to go if u fall
Feb 23 2007 9:58PM
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scurry4
Posts: 155 - Karma: 16
im in the same situation, except i cant find any smaller jumps to try to 3 on, I can 180 on flat and small hits (not jumps)and almost 270 off some tiny jumps, but jusat like with biking I cant seem to get any closer to a full 3 off of a bigger jump than a small jump.
Feb 23 2007 10:04PM
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niels.
Posts: 1282 - Karma: 14
and for sure you can always just be like yo give me a little time before you drop i might fall

good luck
Feb 23 2007 10:19PM
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Salomonkid161
Posts: 102 - Karma: 10
Definetly go for 3s just learn to do them before you try them in a jump set with other people.
Feb 23 2007 10:23PM
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holyDINOSAURS
Posts: 7038 - Karma: 639
fif you just say backflips arent cool????
Feb 23 2007 11:01PM
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Travapple.
Posts: 6787 - Karma: 88
a helmet
Feb 23 2007 11:36PM
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tribefan226
Posts: 2122 - Karma: 209
if u fall just like tell someone next to the ramp to put their poles up so people kno ur down. dont worry about people getting pissed. u gotta fall sometimes its how u get better
Feb 23 2007 11:39PM
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skithedirt
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good way to put it if ur not falling ur not trying
Feb 23 2007 11:52PM
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Luckyscs
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I have to say, If you do ski with a friend, they are an asshole if you fall in a landing and they dont mark that your there or warn people. I had comited on a box where a kid was standing to the side looking up the mountain. as I got on the box, I saw his friend sitting in the middle of the landing. I tried to jump to the side but ended up slinding off sending my ski into the fallen kids back.(he was like 10) I fall on my side and knock the wind out of me and try to yell at the kids friend to warn people when his friend is down in the landing. I got up and went to apologize to the hurt kids mom and tried to explain to her to tell her sons friend to warn people next time. even though it was the friends fault, I still felt like an ass.

Friends don't let friends get landed on!
Feb 24 2007 12:03AM
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SilkyJohnson
Posts: 673 - Karma: 43
people fall and they probably dont really care, unless they are SOME FUCKING GAPER SNOWBOARDER THAT LANDS ON YOUR SKI AND TAKES A CHUNK OUT OF IT.
Feb 24 2007 12:06AM
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psychkub
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I totally hear ya on the fear of having someone land on you. Unfortunately, I ski alone, and when I'm hitting "blind" jumps. I usually let everybody go ahead of me... especially if I'm going to try a new trick. It sucks when you're riding on a busy day, since the snowboarders just come out of nowhere and will cut in the line for the jump, but that's why you should ride during the week if you can.

Or... usually jumps are lined up back to back... so, at least if they see you hit one jump and not hit the other one, they'll know you fell... that's how I know not to go for a jump after someone went ahead of me.
Feb 24 2007 12:28AM
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bedheadben
Posts: 99 - Karma: 10
Thanks everyone for the comments and suggestions, I'll be sure to use them. Oh, and about the helmet thing, I have always worn one, and I even ski in a full face now (my mountain biking helmet) just because I feel a lot safer in the trees, and I like the confused looks it puts on peoples faces.
Feb 24 2007 1:34AM
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powpow***
Posts: 196 - Karma: 10
do a 3
and just have one of ur frends stand on top of the jump so if u fall he can say hold on and no one will land on u
Mar 24 2007 11:42PM
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bryceCTS
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i have one question for ya.. do you use poles?
if yes then do what you want, youll be armed if a snowboarder attacks
Mar 24 2007 11:46PM
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bedheadben
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Haha, ya I do.
Mar 25 2007 12:58PM
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Dr.Seuss
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did you read LanIsBored2000's second post?
Mar 25 2007 9:29PM
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eheath
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Falling and cleaning the kunckle/not over shooting is about 1000 times better not. So as long as you clear the jump well it shouldnt be too bad.
Mar 25 2007 9:32PM
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chickenwang
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month old thread?
Mar 25 2007 9:34PM
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artfullydodged
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so ironic
Mar 25 2007 9:47PM
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.d.
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if u fall and ur skis pop off...fucking run for em and get out cuz some snowboarding will barely miss u
Mar 25 2007 9:51PM
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