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IMPORTANT: style and skiing.
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Read this first:
Nevertheless, this caricature of style does not amount to something beyond the genuine style of the past. In the culture industry the notion of genuine style is seen to be the aesthetic equivalent of domination. Style considered as a mere aesthetic regularity is a romantic dream of past... The great artists were never those who embodied a wholly flawless and perfect style, but those who used style as a way of hardening themselves against the chaotic expression of suffering, as a negative truth. The style of their works gave what was expressed that force without which life flows away unheard. Those very art forms which are known as classical, such as Mozart's music, contain objective trends which represent something different to the style which they incarnate. As late as Schoenberg and Picasso, the great artists have retained a mistrust of style, and at crucial points have subordinated it in that manner... Style represents a promise in every work of art. That which is expressed is subsumed though style into the dominant forms of generality, into the language of music, painting, or words, in the hope that it will be reconciled thus with the idea of true generality... That factor in a work of art which enables it to transcend reality certainly cannot be detached from style; but it does not consist of the harmony actually realized, of any doubtful unity of form and content, within and without, of individual and society; it is to be found in those features in which discrepancy appears: in the necessary failure of the passionate striving for identity. Instead of exposing itself to this failure in which the style of the great work of art has always achieved self negation, the inferior work has always relied on its similarity with others – on a surrogate identity.
In the culture industry this imitation finally becomes absolute. Having ceased to be anything but style, it reveals the latter's secret: obedience to social hierarchy.
From “The Culture Industry as Mass Deception”, by Max Horkheimer and Theodor Adorno (1944).
My question is this: how does this apply to skiing today? I want you to really think about it. There are some important ideas in this excerpt that can help the skiing community (ie. us at NS) ensure that skiing has a positive future. Maybe it will help put the “free” back in freeskiing.
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the inference that adherance to a set of style parameters inhibits freedom in what is supposed to be a "freestyle" sport is kinda a trueism.
but if you dont have a stylistic aesthetic to aspire too, i guess the best riders will progress, but for the most part, the rest of us rely to a certain extent on emulating our peers to progress.
i dont think we're at the point yet where we need to be majorly concerned with the style of skiing becoming stale
(ahem, freestyle arials) when the gammett of admired riders runs from someone like gagnier (insane grabs, strange and controversial grinds) too pollard (minimalist, smooth) too seth (have balls, will huck).
ultimately most of us will migrate towards the middle by necessity - because we probably arnt tallented enough to be groundbreaking. that we adopt stylistic ques from other riders is, i think, less a result of a lack of artistic creativity, but more the result of working in a medium which ultimatly has a limited number of possible stylistic variations.
now my brain hurts.
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holy shit!! 'summer 1998'?? How did I miss it?, that looks like an enormous impact!
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there's a scene i think where they try to outrun the meteor and dive at the last second, its gripping.
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Wow. you guys took that conversation really far. Thanks for at least one serious response. I think you made a really good point about style being limited by ability. It may seem obvious but there's more to it than it appears (in the context of the paper) and it is something worth thinking about.
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man you gotta understand that almost all of us go to school. that is the type of shit i do in challenge and change or english. we come on here to discuss skiing, not write essay responses.
as for the style of skiing can change indefinetly. unlike ability. skiing cannot and will not progress at this rate forever. different styles and different tricks will come out but as far as spins and flips go there are only so many rotations that can be done. sooner or later a new design will come out and we will look a parabolics like straight skis. skiing will change, remember in the scheme of things newschool skiing is a brand new sport
basically style is infinite but ability is not.
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