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How fucking stupid are these people...

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Ryno
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Geoengineering.

To solve global warming, they are thinking now of putting sunshades in space to delfect some of the suns rays to bring our temperature back down to pre-industrial tempatures.

Is it just me, or is this the stupidest fucking idea ever?

Earths plant life needs those UV rays to conduct photosynthesis.

This is a fucking bandaid on a missing limb wound...
Jan 30 2007 10:44AM
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leckett1
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another thing i forgot to say. theyre trying so hard to STOP global warming when really the damage theyve done is permanent. the emissions trapped in the air, for the majority, permanently. over a short period of time, reducing emissions, meanwhile still consuming an astronomical ammount is isnt going to change the effect on the climate significantly. since what has been done to the world cant be reversed, htey should prepare for what climate changes will arise, rather than try so hard to "stop" global warming. because that is physically, and i can boldly say, impossible. more time should be spent on researching what will happen to the climate...and i mean really happen. the whole sea level thing is bullshit. antarctica is getting colder and the ice is getting thicker there, part of natural climate change, as the north is losing its glaciers.

alltogether i just think more time should be spent on preparing for hte inevitable. i should have said this in my other post.
Feb 3 2007 1:57PM
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MitchPee
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That graph is HORRIBLY misleading...
Feb 3 2007 2:16PM
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dbstar
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im gonna assume that you are now attempting your phd in geoengineering to even be able to have a somewhat eduicated respinse to this subject.
Feb 3 2007 5:19PM
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BurgRider
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population control
Feb 3 2007 6:51PM
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snowXrider540
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so i just watched al gore's video on this in my environmental studies class and got some good info...

the same uv rays come into our atmosphere as always but they are supposed to bounce off the earth and go back into space, but the shitty atmosphere we now have keeps them inside the earth thus leading to global warming...

also if only the greenland glaciers melted...it would raise the sea level 23ft.

and we are now at what they call "the point of no return" so even if we do completely stop pollution...it would make no difference, dont get me wrong it might slow it down a little but no matter what the damage is done...

and for everyone calling everyone else and idiot for coming up with ideas...fuck you...although their ideas might not work it helps other people come up with better ones so shut the fuck up and quit making fun of people

and now im done
Feb 3 2007 7:13PM
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japie99
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i thought that if we stopped and put the CO2 in the ground we can change it...
Feb 3 2007 7:21PM
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T.Spliff
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ryno, your probably right, those people are stupid, you are the first one to think about the plant life and stuff so you better tell them quick so they dont kill everything
Feb 3 2007 7:24PM
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japie99
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why?
Feb 3 2007 7:33PM
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BeerGoggles
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Dude you really have to get off the high horse here... Deminishing the attempts made by these people in order to look knowlewgeble is fucking just dumbfounded. Just because you dont know as much as they do about this solution does not mean it wont work.

You seem to think that getting people to stop polluting is the easiest solution. Obviously your the ignorant one. Do you think getting 6 billion people to change their behaviour, things their used to doing, is easy? Yes Im aware not every single person is responsible for pollution but humour me here.

Anyways these people are obviously thinking of ways to improve our current situation without having to rely on other people(including some less intelligent people whod prefer not to change their habits). Good on them
Feb 3 2007 7:36PM
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DJPaulyVee
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its not about plants being able to do photosynthesis, cause theyve been doing that since the begining of time, so a little less light is not a big problem..why are we worrying about that
Feb 3 2007 8:47PM
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skipimp_
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yes it has. New orleans is under water.

Feb 3 2007 9:05PM
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skipimp_
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antarctica is geting thicker?

says who?

and maybe it is, but thats only because it is sitting on top of a land mass, and not open water, like the arctic. but if the north goes, we're screwed.

Feb 3 2007 9:07PM
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skipimp_
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Good one. Exactly.

Feb 3 2007 9:08PM
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skipimp_
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its not the easiest solution, its the only solution

Feb 3 2007 9:09PM
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skipimp_
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What the fuck are you talking about?

youre so confused, youre confusing me.
Feb 3 2007 9:10PM
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CEDARIMAGE
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wow
Feb 3 2007 9:32PM
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leckett1
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im sorry i should have sourced it:

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn1806

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4565935.stm

too lazy to find more.

but there is one thing i noticed that hasnt been thrown out there. deforrestation and industrialization. deforrestation (according to grolier, i cant directly source it unfortunately because you need an account to view its content) causes more of a change on climate and temperature than emissions for one main reason: surface albedo. im sure most of you are familiar with the term but those who arent its the reflectivity of a surface. by removing forrests, you drastically increase the surface albedo, and same with cities, except this increases the albedo even more. with more heat getting reflected from the ground, thats more heat to be suspended in the troposphere due to opaque emissions and THERE is a much better, and more believable (in my books), explanation of global warming.
Feb 4 2007 7:55AM
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leckett1
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oh that whole sunshade just reminded me of something. for those who watch the simpsons you definately remember mr burns sun blocking device. i wonder if that had any influence on this?
Feb 4 2007 7:56AM
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skipimp_
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from your article:

"A new radar study shows that the ice sheet feeding the Ross Ice Streams is growing. That is a dramatic change in an ice sheet covering about a third of West Antarctica and that has retreated nearly 1300 kilometres since the end of the last ice age. The big question is if the change marks the end of the retreat, or just a short-lived reversal."

1300 km dude.

Feb 4 2007 6:14PM
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japie99
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Im dont know really... but,

I just read that the sea level has changed. Some Island in Alaska where eskimo's life, is getting smaller and smaller, coz of rising sea. I could show you do it, but it is not in English. Like the whole scientific world is so messed up, every week you read other stuff! Some say southpole aint melting and getting bigger and other say its melting...

What do I have to believe....:S
Feb 5 2007 11:52AM
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skipimp_
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You have to investigate where your information is coming from and see who has an agenda, and who is benefiting from the info.

The media is controlled by BIg Business, and they have money to make.

Feb 11 2007 6:10PM
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SteezePatrol
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yea ryno maybe, just maybe, the scientists with their doctorates and whatnot were able to have the fact that plants need uv rays to survive.


just maybe

but most likely this hasn't crossed their mind, and you should tell them
Feb 11 2007 6:15PM
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Arabian.
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SINCE THE LAST ICE AGE DUMBASS.

I love how everyone just dismisses the facts that we have record lows in the midwest and eastcoasts. GLOBAL WARMING DOES NOT EXIST.
Feb 11 2007 6:19PM
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skipimp_
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^ It's gone now though, and it was only 15, 000 years ago. In the last 2 000 years, we've lost 90% of the ice on the planet. Dont be dumb.
Feb 14 2007 7:57PM
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