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Feeler: 06/07 PE's 179

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japollner
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thinking of selling to get rid of some quiver overlap...

Drilled twice. Once for 912's at +3 and once for fks's at core center. no significant edge damage. 2 edge cracks, no delaming. missing one rivit in the tip, filled with ptex. no core shots. bases are actually in very good shape.

thinking $220 without bindings. any takers?
Jan 28 2007 11:00PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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dude, wtf did you do to these to crack the edges and remove a rivet out of 07's....tahts a fair bit o damage right there
Jan 28 2007 11:03PM
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japollner
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Rivit popped out preseason. And the edge cracks are superficial. but they happened on that small flatbar Bretton Woods had up earlier this year. Since I got my foils, I havent been on these much. If no one wants them, they are getting center mounted and will become rail beaters. Im just seeing if anyone wants them before they become destroyer skis.
Jan 28 2007 11:08PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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^^ even tiny edge cracks turn big after a few hard rail days...and your pretty much saying these are beater skis that are gonna fall apart?
Jan 28 2007 11:15PM
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japollner
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no, im saying these would make an excellent all mountain ski for a lighter rider, or someone who isnt hard on equipment. the crack in the edge is that. all skis have edge cracks in them, they are called edge seams, look near the tips. those are just as prone to delam as any rail induced crack. when you start slamming a crack on rails again, THEN it becomes an issue.

in a ski built like your invader, an edge crack might be a serious issue, but only because the various layers of an invader like to stay together about as much as mother theresa and hitler.
Jan 28 2007 11:43PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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^^ p.e's are good for pretty much any rider...i had a pair of pe's for 2 years and rode em hard and no problems at all...i only got edge crakcs under foot when i started doing urban with them...

and is not considered an edge "crack" if its the seams at the tips of the skis. these seams rarely split or remove unless you bash your tips repeatedly into rails. if you know how to ride rails this should not happen. an edge crack is an actual crack or rupture in the edge that is not intented to be there. they usually happen underfoot from landing hard onto rails...if this is what has happened to your skis then its an edge crack. if the edge is sperating from the seam at the tips then you have a pair in need of warranty or some urban
Jan 29 2007 12:01AM
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japollner
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you just said the exact same thing i did...

not an edge "crack" but a seam is just as prone (see last years invader...)

and yes, i know what a warrenty pair of skis looks like...im the freeride specialist at the oldest ski shop in America.
Jan 29 2007 12:13AM
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bigwhite.steeze
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the edges on the invaders werent so much of a problem as the delam because of a cheap topsheet...same thing with the 07's.


and what shop do you work at if i may ask?
Jan 29 2007 12:17AM
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japollner
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Lahouts. I work at the lincoln location. if you want to get technical, the oldest location is the littlton store.

www.lahouts.com
Jan 29 2007 12:19AM
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japollner
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and i dont know what you are talking about in regards to the "cheap topsheet"...the edges popped out because the seam was right on the tip...

the edges would have popped out after being flaxed a few times no matter what the topsheet was made of. it was an issue with lines "hinge point" technology. the tip bent too much and the different layers sheered against one another, falling apart.

example- make like you are about to flip through a thick book. look at the way the pages are right before you stop flipping pages. see how they have slid against each other and are at an angle? voila! thats what was happening to the invaders. they sheered apart, and then you could flip through the layers like a book.


and its why this years are doing it again. its the "hinge point", not the "crappy topsheet"
Jan 29 2007 12:25AM
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bigwhite.steeze
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hmm...thought it would be a little more well known if it was the oldest
Jan 29 2007 12:27AM
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japollner
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mcdonalds is well known...does it make it quality dining?


leave my thread.
Jan 29 2007 12:30AM
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bigwhite.steeze
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im sure for africans mcdonalds would be quality dining.

but yes ill leave your thread.

and no with them being in such bad condition and being drilled twice i think these should go for what? 100$?
Jan 29 2007 12:34AM
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japollner
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if you are saying a ski with no delam issues, and 1 edge crack on each ski, and literally one topsheet chip (about the side of a pencil eraser) is "bad condition" then I would hate to have you show up in the shop to buy equipment.

"um, these dumonts are out of the plastic...they are well used at best. i offer you $150"

Go back to grade school kid.
Jan 29 2007 12:38AM
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bigwhite.steeze
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^^ i rejoin your thread before i logoff and start again tommorow possibly by saying that a ski thats been drilled twice, has 2 cracked edges(NO GOOD) and are missing a rivet and are only like what, 3 months old? are bad condition. i would hate to walk into your shop and want to buy some dumonts from you....
Jan 29 2007 12:43AM
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bigwhite.steeze
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what im trying to get at is, cracked edges are no good! i dont know if ride park or not, but cracked edges = bad, if you know how to ride any rails other than box's. they edge will tear off!!!!!
Jan 29 2007 12:44AM
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