The blue 1260s on the left are 164s, and in awesome shape. One chip out of the topsheet, minor scratches on the base etc. Nothing deep. Can remove stickers if you like. I've had them for a long time, but I've only used them like twice in the past 2 years. Make an offer. They currently have some Tyrolia binders on them. They're like the rental bindings that are super adjustable, din up to 10 I think.