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skogenjake
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so i got my new skis mounted up. it finally snowed. i went outside. i start to lean forward to get up on my tips, and i eject out of my bindings. the front and rear din retention settings are where they need to be. i cant go skiing today, and have to wait until thursday for the guy to be in that can fix them. they said that they ran tests when they mounted them, so they are going to run them again.

thats bullshit. can someone tell me how they messed up.
Jan 21 2007 1:48PM
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Jr-o-c
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umm if the din isnt too low, iono your bindings are fucked up or mounted not tight enough on your boots so there is too much available space and once you put pressure your boots pop off. cuz like a binding placement can fit maybe like 3 very similar sole sizes so maybe they just arnt tight enough on your boot.
Jan 21 2007 1:51PM
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skogenjake
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would that necessitate them to move them on the track to fit a little tighter?
Jan 21 2007 2:05PM
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fnstoked
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yeah, if that's the reason. you can do it yourself right now if you wanted. what bindings do you have?
Jan 21 2007 2:07PM
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fnstoked
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and by "the reason", i meant if there wasn't enough forward pressure/bindings aren't tight enough.
Jan 21 2007 2:10PM
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andrewg
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word. if u have to move them up a little its really easy. you should be able to do it urself.
Jan 21 2007 2:11PM
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Jib_This
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You're an idiot and your shop sucks.

Your bindings are fine, they're properly set up, and you just need to take a screwdriver to them and crank up the DIN. That you come out "trying to get up onto your nose" is what lets you out when you're "tumbling down and about to die/blow a knee". No binding is made with nosepresses in mind.
Jan 21 2007 3:10PM
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MEGAZORD
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They sound too loose if all you did ws lean forward.

Jan 21 2007 3:17PM
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DopeSauce
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Ahh gay... I hate not being able to flex straight up onto the tips. SHould screw the backs forward a bit
Jan 21 2007 4:05PM
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skogenjake
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listen. i used to work in a shop. i know what the retention is set at. you are the idiot, it's more than correct. check my fucking pictures...do you see what i did with the same bindings on my fujatives? they are more than capable of handling a nosepress. it has to be moved up the track. you are whats wrong with newschoolers. i beg you to think before you fucking speak.
Jan 21 2007 7:13PM
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skogenjake
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when mounting at your shop, do you run front release ejection tests? my old skis could handel it, my new ones should be able to. mine arent set where they would be on the din chart, they are above it. they are set at 9, as they were on my last pair of skis. they are adjusted for my height and weigh this year, by me. im not going to not do nose presses because my "skis arent designed for it". they'll move them up a bit on the track, or ill do it myself. its an easy fix, i just know i may get it free (and have them adjust the toe wings) if i make the minimal effort to go to the shop. i did need that guy up there telling me im an idiot.
Jan 21 2007 7:33PM
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Jib_This
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You're still retarded.

Binding heelpieces are DESIGNED to release in exactly the kind of motion that a "nosepress" entails. There is no such thing as a "jib" binding that can sense the difference between a nosepress and you about to eat shit, so it just fucking releases. Yes, there is SOME vertical elastic travel in a binding heelpiece, but past that, there isn't much you can do other than crank up the DIN, and maybe forward pressure a touch.

If you think about it for more than 2 seconds, you'll realize that this "nosepress" that you speak of is basically you testing your heelpiece for vertical release.
Jan 21 2007 7:41PM
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skogenjake
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shhh...you know you are wrong.

the din, as i said in the original is set and not the problem. you know what i can do? move it up the track, which consequently is what i will do.
Jan 21 2007 8:17PM
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adam.
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i think it is his bindings, the rest of the world can to nose presses/tail presses and their boots dont pop off

atleast mine dont
Jan 21 2007 8:21PM
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ShadyHillGroup
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haha no, i went to nose press my ants the first time, it was one of those, just got my skis mounted, lets fuck around in my room type of things, and i fell flat on my face and got a bloody nose, but then i cranked the din to where i need to be, but as for your problem, its probably the foward pressure, if so, the shop should do it for free, but you did mention tightening your wings, which makes me think sallys, if your riding sallys, that could be one problem
Jan 21 2007 9:15PM
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ESfreeridepa
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you know you can easily move the binding up the track yourself with a flat headed screw driver. for being a shop tech you really sound like you know what your doing... insert sarcasm.
Jan 21 2007 11:10PM
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BusyJohnSohn
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i dont think the rest of the world can do nose presses, when was the last time you saw some little african kid from sudan do a nosepress
Jan 21 2007 11:14PM
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Love_Wins.
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This it exactly what I was about to ask, you know how to mount shit and do release tests but don't know how to adjst forward pressure? Hmmm...interesting. That's probably the issue though, try bumping the forward pressure up a bit and see. And I seriously doubt your toe-wings have anything to do with your heelpeice releasing vertically during a nosepress.
Jan 22 2007 3:12AM
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jibsworth
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I was doing nose presses this weekend with my din set very conservatively and defiantly wasn't ejecting.

I think its a problem with the binding, not din.
Jan 22 2007 9:15AM
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nothanks
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He's not saying you can't fucking nosepress with ski bindings, he's saying that motion is the motion you get when you're eating it.

When I blew out my knee - if you watch it in slo-mo, you'll see that when I went flying forward, one ski released. If I was trying/going slower/in control it could have seemed like the set-up for a press. The ski that stayed on was the knee that got hurt, while the other released. I fell striaght forward, tumbled and flipped.

And yes, shops test for vertical too.
Jan 22 2007 9:59AM
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C-Burg
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Where did you go to get your bindings mounted
Feb 4 2007 2:55PM
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skogenjake
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rusted moon
theyre fixed...for now
Feb 4 2007 2:59PM
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