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Rockered Park Riding

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Anti-Hero
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http://www.filmtheidea.com/fujaspage.html

sick, sounds so fun
Jan 20 2007 3:58PM
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milkdud951
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i dont understand
Jan 20 2007 4:18PM
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Uncle_Remus
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the skis have negative camber so apparently its easyer to butter and stuff
Jan 20 2007 5:03PM
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chrismoJBEATS
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would be easier to spin i think too
Jan 20 2007 5:18PM
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FUUUCK
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prajekt made a dual camber park/all mountain ski, i was going to buy it until the company disappeared off the face of the earth, apparently it was a whole new way of look ing at skiing.
Jan 20 2007 7:56PM
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Casey
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i was watching this guy ski on some rockered lines when I was skiing the other week, they were wide like prophet 130's too, it was crazy looking.
Jan 21 2007 5:09AM
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Gharf
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check his real name in the profile :)
Jan 21 2007 8:29AM
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NWFlow
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who's
Jan 21 2007 1:39PM
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RudyGarmisch
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From the website:

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"Rockered park riding is the future. I'm talking prophecy yet I wouldn't have know it without having the pleasure of testing it first hand. I know I am one of the select few who have been able to ride park with rockered boards and I have to share this experience. It's hard to start to share all the doors that have opened up with this technology. Here are a few doors: Nose presses in the middle half of the ski, with bent knees. Butters where you can control the speed of which you rotate while being able to pop at any moment and control your direction. If you get off balance on a rail or landing, revert around or turn off the rail without catching your tips. This is just a tid bit to think about. The picture I posted is not a crash. Rockered park riding...BOOYAH!"
Jan 21 2007 11:04PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Rockered park riding sounds like it would be fun. A few questions about it tho, maybe for someone who knows about ski design to answer:

1) If you were to make rockered park skis, how would carving/turning be effected?

2) How much of a rock would be needed? Too much could make sliding rails very very sketchy... or not? Maybe it makes presses easier?
Jan 21 2007 11:07PM
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FNJ
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those sound like the line EP pros
Jan 21 2007 11:07PM
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seider
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im gessing easyer to wash out too
Jan 21 2007 11:15PM
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timoski
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i need rockered skis....now
Jan 21 2007 11:38PM
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timoski
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my old scratches might need to get frankensteined

http://tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45099&highlight=bend+skis
Jan 21 2007 11:48PM
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pales
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word reverse camber skis have been hard to catch on becasue of the immense role that camber plays in allowing you to ski a variety of terrain. i cant remember and its gonna bug me but a company made a similar ski that didn't do too well because there was virtually nobody that was skiing the kind of terrain it was designed for consistently.
i'm not saying anything agaisnt this idea it looks sweet and innovations like this can make a ski do what it was designed to do amazingly. but it can also make it too specified.
Jan 21 2007 11:49PM
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bigwhite.steeze
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werd.if you even leave the park at all it could be bad
Jan 21 2007 11:57PM
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Pigletpen
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this sounds cool.
id like to see it.
id like to ride it.
everywhere.
Jan 22 2007 12:27AM
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Elijah.
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I saw a guy at baker on those. Maybe he was Pep, cause him and Eric were around yesteryday... Wouldn't that be just like the pontoons?
Jan 22 2007 12:29AM
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timoski
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i never thought about how rocker would affect presses or butters, but i think i just came a little....think about how much you could steeze out a press with a ski thats already bent...think of how much snowboarders can get on their tails...this is going to be cool
Jan 22 2007 12:47AM
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1-pippin
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yeah dude if someone made a pair of rockered park skis id buy them so quick. if been thinking something like htat would be a good idea for so long.
it would be cool if thehy were only rockered a tiny bit though, like so they are pretty much flat, so your tips and/or tails werent sticking up and looking gay.
Jan 22 2007 12:48AM
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Troop801
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Have fun on groomers with a reverse camber ski...
Jan 22 2007 12:49AM
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1-pippin
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uhhh fuck groomers? that shits for gapers, they wouldnt do that bad anyway, enough to get around on.
Jan 22 2007 12:54AM
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Ryanvdonk
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rockered park ski are worthless. no edge hold, and garunteed wash outs if you don't land perfect switch (or even regular). it's really easy to butter, and rails are the same, but they suck to jump with.
Jan 22 2007 12:55AM
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1-pippin
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thats true, but im sure they will find a way for it to be good on jumps, and even if they arent, just dont do many jumps the day your using them.
Jan 22 2007 12:57AM
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Troop801
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What the fuck do you think a terrain park consists of numb nuts?
Jan 22 2007 1:28AM
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sbark
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If they are good enough for him, I will try them out and see. I wanna see their movie!!! Rockered would help in powder, i kinda enision the ARG la gorda mixed with a park ski....
Jan 22 2007 1:51AM
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1-pippin
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well shit its not like you cant turn at all, if you go to the park to make turns all day then thats gay, im sure you can carve off jumps and stuff fine, just not very well. having rockered skis dosent mean you can only go straight.
Jan 22 2007 2:14AM
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Holte
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Everybody at my mountain rides pontoons. And occasionally I'll see somebody on a groomer with pontoons (at the end of a pow run) and they look really difficult.
Jan 22 2007 2:27AM
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TWoods
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So I saw pep and andy today with those skis. I held and flexed andy's and talked to pep. They are not the Hellbents, they are the Made'ns from last year with the new graphics, pressed in the Hellbent press... so they aren't 122 underfoot, just 108... still fat though. The flex is a little different, a little stiffer (but just barely) than the other made'ns. The tips and tails are about 2 inches off the ground at the point where the shovels stary to curve, and the rocker starts about 2 inches in front of the toe peice, and 2 inches behind the heelpeice, there is more lenght of a rocker in the tip than the tail. When I looked at them from the side, it appeared that the rockers were straight and there was a little bit of traditional camber under the foot.

If you can imagine this, Pep would just bend his knees and lean a little forward, and he could pivot around with almost no effort. He said "yea, they aren't the hellbents, just last year's made'ns with the graphics, we are cheating a little." I asked how they skied and he jumped to say "They are the best skis ever made. And they have the rockers so they are real good for park too."

Like was said before, it seems like it would be hard to stick things. Also, rails would be tricky because if you started to slide off you would have to press them real hard or you would be more likely to slide off... but you do have a decent amount of flat sliding surface. Also, landing on landings that aren't built as well would seem to hurt a  lot more because the tips and tails aren't there to flex and absorb that energy.

I still want a pair though. I really would like to try it.
Jan 22 2007 3:08AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Crystal Mt is too fucking rich.


Also, note that Andy and Pep are riding on rockered skis, NOT REVERSE CAMBER. Rockered reverse camber skis would be amazing in powder (deep glorious dry powder), but any reverse camber ski is going to pretty much be all over the place on anything else. Andy and Pep are riding rockered AK's too... I think a narrow ass park ski that was rockered could be pretty fun. Imagine being able to whip around butters and reverts like nobody's business.
Jan 22 2007 3:21AM
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spere
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ya i know i wanted to also, they were ahead of their time
Jan 22 2007 3:25AM
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Dirac
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ok so what exactly is a rockered ski. i assumed it just meant reverse camber but apparantly not.

Jan 22 2007 4:13PM
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Pigletpen
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how would you know?
did you shred them?
if not... youre lame.
Jan 22 2007 4:52PM
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TWoods
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rockers are where there is a section of the ski bent up, the skis that Pep is talking about have a rocker in front of the toe peice and behind the tail, with a little normal camber in between... like the ARG. Reverse camber is when the whole ski has an upside down camber.
Jan 22 2007 4:56PM
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617jibber
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presses would be so fun on those
Jan 22 2007 4:58PM
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Calrin
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so on a groomer it would be like skiing snowblades as far as running legnth goes?
Jan 22 2007 5:05PM
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Uncle_Remus
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make a pair and find out
Jan 22 2007 5:57PM
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dangerdad
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they should make the urban triplets with rocker. that would be dope. a straight up rail slayer
Jan 22 2007 6:01PM
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Love_Wins.
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So K2 isn't going to release the AK Enemy with rocker? WTF, I wanna ride it. The hellbent looks sick, but they are just a little too wide I think, 108 underfoot with rocker sounds perfect.
Feb 2 2007 3:08AM
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coolhandluke
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i rented pontoons over christmas break.

yes riding on the groomers is a little strange without edge hold.

but the ability to shred pow like no other, land cliffs onto pillowlly pontoons, and spin surface 360s until i threw up made them woth it.

seriously: try some rockered skis....they will open your eyes
Feb 2 2007 3:15AM
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FridayFrothys
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^ so true, the pontoons opened my eyes too!!
You don't know till you actually ride them, but the pontoons are jibby as hell!!!!! Cant wait for the HBs.
Many companies hoping on the rockered band wagon next year, its totally where its at
Feb 5 2007 2:15PM
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