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Looking to buy first wide ski
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so ive really only ever ridden park skis and after riding some powder for the first time in a while i decided THALLS arent the best ski for powder. ive never been real into powder and didnt notice the difference, but now i see the advantage of a wide ski. so basically, what should i get?
6' 3" 160 lbs. ski will be for 70% powder, 30% all mountain. i want something agile cuz i like to ride in the trees. id like them to be decent in the park so i can swing through the park on a day im skiing powder- i have park skis for pure park skiing days.
ive looked at arv's, jp vs. juliens, big troubles, seth vicious, even SFB's. im intersted in anything from a 90-115 waist so the field is wide open. tell me whats the shit to ride in pow.
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well i think the SFB might be pushing it a bit tho... a good choice would be the ANT, jp vs ju and ARV so actually look into armada wide skis or k2. ak enemy/ maiden ak would make the perfect ski for you but they might be hard to find. seth vicious would be good as well,
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Fischer Atua's and Dynastar big troubles are both good for swinging through the park, and will still keep you floating through the powder. Then I would look at Prophet 100's more on the big mountain side I have heard alot of good things about those. and the older VCT's
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whats the flex like on arv's. ive heard theyre real soft, but are they as soft as t-halls?
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the old arvs are relatively stiff the new ones are noodles
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word, the older you go the stiffer they are, but they are still not that stiff. the new ones are super soft in the tip and tail, like so sof the tip will almost touch the toepiece of your binding.
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my buddy got a couple pow days in on his SFB's and loved 'em, he said they were amazing switch and really surprised him on groomers. He said they definitely weren't carvers but felt like they could stomp pretty much anything.
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the rossi BC WRS are sick in pow and can rip through crud, also not bad for park
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those sound so sick, but the biggest waist ived skied is like 86 so it might be a big jump in size for me. they look like so much fun... its probly just cuz pollard kills it so hard on them.
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They are pretty out there, he was doing moguls with 'em and shit too lol, he jumped from 80mm 1080's and 86mm Pollard pro models so you'll be fine there.
it's kinda hard to imagine how massive they are. they are also super soft and are amazing at butters. touching them definitely made me want lizzies, my buddy is you're height and weight btw.
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sounds sweet, are they a really stiff ski though?
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sorry the review answered my question.
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If I were you, I would suggest you forget about trying to generalize your pow skis in the park. The construction as well as the atributes that make a perfect pow/all mtn ski good are not necessarily the same as a park ski, and if you sacrifice for the park, then you will pay for it on the rest of the mtn. As you already have a dedicated park ski, I would suggest you look for something based on its all mtn handling, not its park abilities. Also, do not buy a ski under 100 at the waist. With the performance of skis these days, you sacrifice nothing on groomers but gain soo much fun on pow days.
I bought a pair of Scott P4s this year in a 181, and I love them to death. They are 104mm underfoot, a perfect number because they rip forwards or backwards on really anything I have thrown them at (aside from rails and small jumps). I am 5' 7"200 lbs, and these are about perfect for me. Because of your height, you could probably ski the 191 if you are a stong skiier. These skis are slightly hard to get, but if you can you will enjoy them.
Other suggestions: JP vs. Julien 188, Ak Enemy 189, VCT 185, Surface Live Life
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^^^ what he said. I ski 175 '06 VCT's (same waist as gotamas and P4s, 104) and they rip everywhere. They're really light, and its actually pretty fun to stomp a landing in the park on fat skis. Groomers, crud, okay ice can get a little dicey but thats true for any twin. Don't go below 100.
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Sir Francis Bacon. hands down. or the EP Pro if you're talking super fat.
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thanks for the help guddgulf. im definitely going to go with something over 100 in the waist. as it is i dont weigh a whole lot for my height, so im thinking a go with something 180-185. the more i check it out, the more i like the bacons and the lizzies. i just want a ski like one of those that is huge, but destroys almost everywhere. would either of those be a completely awful idea?
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you think the SFB's are dope? check out the 179 surface live lifes.
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k2 pontoons are hella wide i dont think they would be good if you were in trees or on a normal groomer though. o ya there also like $900
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take the vct!!!!
The best ski on market in my opinion!!
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THe Seth would be the best choice if you ask me, good allmountain ski and great in pow. The best is that you can doo radical turns because of the proggressive sidecut and because the seths are quite soft, you can use them in the park too. The Vct would also be a good choice although i would prefer the seths.
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ya, def something from the k2 line...
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i love lizzys but that might push it
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I have a pair of 05-06 Seth's that rip great all mountain since you are lighter than me im sure they would be a perfect ski im 6' 210 and they tend to chatter a little bit on the groomers but they keep me afloat in the pow. The next best ski would be the Scott P4's from kids that i ride with they rip all mountain and are a pretty stiff ski to break through the crud. If I didn't buy the Seths i would have gone for the P4's got a good deal on the Seth's that i couldn't turn down.
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SEths will let you charge the pow and run through the park with no problems
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get lizzies they're so much fun and u can ski them anywhere
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ok im going to be honest, i have been researching a lot and i think im going to go with either the lizzies or the bacons. i dont disagree that the other suggestions are dope, but i think these two are made for what i want to do. now the question is which to get. im only 160 lbs, so could i pull off the lizzies since they are so wide, or do i need the bacons?
also ive heard the bacon is more stiff ski for backcountry lines and stuff, but looking at pollard ski them, they look great for almost anything... so are th flexes on these two extremely different?
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anyone have any idea if lizzies or bacons would be better for me?
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id go bacon... but the 178 lizzies wouyld be very good for super tight turns...yeah id say bacon
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at least i think lizzies are 178
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Dynastar Big Trouble. Great in pow and crud but sick on groomers and in the park.
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arent the lizzies 172? and then bacons 182?
maybe he first lizzies were 178
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seths they are so sick i demoed them on a pow day and they were dope
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these are what i'd say if you're looking for a one ski quiver. also scratch BC wrs
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i love my ak enemy's, they're a great pow ski.
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not really going for a one ski quiver. im working on compiling a large quiver.
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