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Sending more troops to iraq

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SkiUnit03
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so bush just made his speech.
im not sure about my opinion yet.
please share your feelings/views
Jan 10 2007 10:08PM
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Lax_Bro40
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you ever think the actual targets hide in civilian homes? When there is a squad of army infantry being pinned down from fire from a house because the insurgents are to coward to come out and fight what should you do? put yourself in there shoes bro, either you watch your brothers and eventually you get ripped apart because the enemy has a superior firing position or you call in a fucking airstrike. Yes civilian deaths are terrible, but they are apart of every war. If they didnt hide their weapons or themselves in civilian buildings there would be no problem.


And to all you who say there was no WMD's, have you ever heard of things that are CLASSIFIED. There was a great show on the history channel it was about missions that had recently become declassified. One was about a WMD coming from the middle east on a swedish cargo ship. It was inteded to reach port in NYC where a terrorist sell would detenate the bomb. Well guess what, Seal Team 6 was deployed found the bomb and placed explosives on this ship so when it blew up it would give PLENTY of time for a mayday call and all crew memebers to safely board a lifeboat. Besides that kick ass story if there were WMDs in Iraq, the general population would probably not know about it. There are things going on over there that would blow your mind if the general population could hear it. There is a video somewhere of Obama coming out of his intelligence briefing, the look on his face is priceless, and i think he had a few more grey hairs.

Its way more complicated over there than it seems.
Dec 26 2009 3:59PM
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ScuffDUFF
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london-thug,  you sir, are a retard.  Im not gunna argue about something that doesnt even matter anymore because what has happened, happened.   I am just gunna say that you are a retard. 
Dec 26 2009 4:03PM
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ECfreeski3
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yeah i know that
Dec 26 2009 8:00PM
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ECfreeski3
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no SHIT there's tons of classified stuff we dont know about. thanks for cluing me in, you must really be in the know to have grasped that concept. if there were WMDs that could have justified (rationalized) our invasion of the country, you can bet your ass they would have at least told the public in some way. jesus christ.
Dec 26 2009 8:02PM
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Toilet-Ott3r
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that was the most fucking uneducated pointless retarded post this whole fucking thread.....
Dec 26 2009 8:25PM
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ScuffDUFF
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I think you meant " that was the most fucking uneduacated pointless retarded post IN this whole fucking thread"   damn you're stupid.  haha london-thug haha
Dec 26 2009 8:44PM
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babujib
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so your telling me that the man who was responsible for over an estimated 2 million deaths should be in power. wow. that was ignorant.
Dec 26 2009 9:09PM
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Toilet-Ott3r
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LMAO you fool whats wrong with using this? Do explain before you embarrass your gold fish of a brain...
Dec 26 2009 9:43PM
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ScuffDUFF
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lol wut??  I think you need to reread my post and/or just stop posting.    I like people like you.  It makes NS fun.  
Dec 26 2009 9:48PM
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Toilet-Ott3r
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I by no means wanted such an evil man in power and i do agree he was responsible for a lot of deaths,but you have to understand democracy can't thrive in these Islamic countries.The people even given the choice of democracy will vote for the wrong person especially if a person running for power has religious links to their beliefs.Its not ignorance its logical no matter how evil it is.The country was thriving and look at it now.People cant even walk down the streets without fear of kidnapping or death especially if your a Christian Iraqi or are sided with being a Sunni or a Shiite.Put yourself in the worn-out shoes of a every day civillian in Iraq. Would you rather live under Saddam – who was a brutal dictator, but did provide Iraq with one of the foundations of civilization: order – or under a force made up of ideological terrorists, feuding warlords and an "Ali Baba" element, all running rampant because they can, and where not even mosques provide a safe haven from these brutes and their bombs?
Dec 26 2009 9:52PM
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Toilet-Ott3r
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Your making me cringe by the minute please explain your previous dumbass before this one.
Dec 26 2009 9:54PM
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Toilet-Ott3r
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post*
Dec 26 2009 9:55PM
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Toilet-Ott3r
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+K in a reluctant way as it sounds more sarcastic then anything else lol
Dec 26 2009 10:00PM
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ScuffDUFF
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Holy fucken shit guy.   Ok.   You said,  "that was the most fucking uneducated pointless retarded post this whole fucking thread..... "      Now,  does that sound correct?  No.  So i corrected you by saying, "that was the most fucking uneduacated pointless retarded post IN this whole fucking thread".   Now, your dumbass self responded to my response by saying, "LMAO you fool whats wrong with using this?"    If you do not see what i am getting at then you either do not know english or, you are retarded.    Now i will repeat what i first said.  You sir are a retard.  I will also add that your political views are retarded.   I will also ask you one question.   Bitch.  Are you retarded?
Dec 26 2009 10:08PM
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ScuffDUFF
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i will aslo add that i am done with you and this thread.  Have fun thuggen, london-thug.
Dec 26 2009 10:11PM
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gigi.d
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Dang about 30,000. That is a hell of a lot. I thought his plan was to take out the troops in Iraq.
Dec 26 2009 10:23PM
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gigi.d
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i meant now not bush dang i didn't realize how far back this thread was from.
Dec 26 2009 10:24PM
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Toilet-Ott3r
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Jesus you dumb,holy fucking christ you don't need IN what so ever.Jesus im cringing so much its making my eyes bleed.
Dec 26 2009 10:33PM
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ScuffDUFF
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hahaha ok. Whatever you say.  Just go talk to your 5th grade Eglish teacher.  Also I think you meant, you're dumb.  lol i love you london-thug no homo.

Dec 26 2009 10:37PM
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Toilet-Ott3r
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i cant believe your picking out minimal spelling mistakes in a political thread.You have completely thrown the thread off topic for being such a moron.Shows me how much knowledge you have about the world outside of your house. Its sad really.
Dec 26 2009 10:40PM
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ScuffDUFF
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lol  shall we keep going?   Im down if you are.
Dec 26 2009 10:43PM
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Toilet-Ott3r
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go for it, your serious case of retardation is making me want to just for a laugh. I think you need a place for (special) karma on your profile.
Dec 26 2009 10:45PM
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ScuffDUFF
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want to just for a laugh??   lol wut??
Dec 26 2009 10:47PM
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ScuffDUFF
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would it make you happy if i just said you win???
Dec 26 2009 10:47PM
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Toilet-Ott3r
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OMFG i have just realised why your not understanding my English properly,i'm using English terminology like slang English sort of.Im trying to help give you an example...Picture this,say im speaking to you and your like do you want to go throw a water a balloon at that kids head.I would then reply yeah lets do it for a laugh.

Comprende?


Dec 26 2009 10:52PM
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Toilet-Ott3r
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I won a long time ago but i enjoyed your losing battle. ;) <3
Dec 26 2009 10:53PM
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ScuffDUFF
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you're   <3 ; )
Dec 26 2009 10:56PM
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WVskiing
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Dec 26 2009 10:58PM
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Toilet-Ott3r
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i couldn't have said it better
Dec 26 2009 10:59PM
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Benedetto.
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There is something called a top secret clearance and NO, the goverment won't even release a little of the information. That would just be fucking retarded.


and why are you defending Sadaam? I'm going to say this again, he killed hundreds of thousands with chemical weapons.
Dec 27 2009 5:59AM
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MitchPee
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If the chemical weapons you are referring to are scud missiles, then where do you think he got them from?

Well I can tell you a significant source of the funding for it and I will give you a hint. It's the country whose flag is represented in your avatar.
Dec 27 2009 12:09PM
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srwinnsuco
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DAMN YOU OBAMA, wait this thread is 2 years old, DAMN YOU BUSH.  SEE NOTHING CHANGED WITH OBAMA, same shit different PR person.  Democrat and Republican just divides the people so they can continue the rape and pillaging of foreign countries
Dec 27 2009 4:58PM
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srwinnsuco
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JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW HISTORY WILL TELL US THAT THERE IS NO WAY TO RATIONALIZE ANY OF THE WARS WE ARE INVOLVED IN.  THEY ARE ALL CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY
Dec 27 2009 4:59PM
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Mr.Panda
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No, they aren't. They were stupid invasions that outside of Afghanistan at the beginning mean nothing. Crimes against humanity is testing weapons on civilians.
Dec 27 2009 5:04PM
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srwinnsuco
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Crimes against humanity, as defined by the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court Explanatory Memorandum, "are particularly odious offences in that they constitute a serious attack on human dignity or grave humiliation or a degradation of one or more human beings. They are not isolated or sporadic events, but are part either of a government policy (although the perpetrators need not identify themselves with this policy) or of a wide practice of atrocities tolerated or condoned by a government or a de facto authority. Murder; extermination; torture; rape and political, racial, or religious persecution and other inhumane acts reach the threshold of crimes against humanity only if they are part of a widespread or systematic practice. Isolated inhumane acts of this nature may constitute grave infringements of human rights, or depending on the circumstances, war crimes, but may fall short of falling into the category of crimes under discussion."
Dec 27 2009 5:06PM
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srwinnsuco
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^ THOSE ARE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY,  AKA JUST LIKE THE WARS WE ARE INVOLVED WITH
Dec 27 2009 5:07PM
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Mr.Panda
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Want atrocities?


WWII- Japanese take the "Death March" survivors and force them to build air raid shelters. They then put the POWs into said shelters and burn them alive.


WWII- Holocaust, need I say more?


Vietnam- NVA force American POWs to play Russian Roulette. They also strap them between bamboo and allow the bamboo to grow through said troops bodies.


Vietnam- American forces towards the end losing their cool and burning down villages for no reason at all or dropping bombs on random villages cause they can.


Vietnam-
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Dec 27 2009 5:10PM
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srwinnsuco
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Fallujah, The Hidden Massacre is a documentary film by Sigfrido "el fagio" Ranucci and Maurizio Torrealta which first aired on Italy's RAI state television network on November 8, 2005. The film documents the use of weapons that the documentary asserts are chemical weapons, particularly the use of incendiary bombs, and alleges indiscriminate use of violence against civilians and children by military forces of the United States of America in the city of Fallujah in Iraq during the Fallujah Offensive of November 2004.

The film's primary themes are:

  • Establishing a case for war crimes against civilians committed by the United States.
  • Documenting evidence for the use of chemical devices by the US military.
  • Documenting other human rights abuses by American forces and their Iraqi counterparts.

This article offers a synopsis of the material presented in the documentary.

Dec 27 2009 5:11PM
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srwinnsuco
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Marines may face trial over Iraq massacre

· Report likely to say troops shot 24 unarmed civilians
· Murder charges likely after killings and cover-up


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/may/27/iraq.topstories3


so dont tell me this shit doesnt still go on.  THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN DENY THESE ARENT CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY

Dec 27 2009 5:13PM
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Mr.Panda
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Yes, I can deny it.


Marines were taught a very hard lesson in Vietnam. Kids, would be running around, acting like they are playing, and then they stop, one bends over and has an AK strapped to their back, and their friend starts pulling the trigger.

Now, fast forward to Iraq. Climate is much different and the US Marines have a definite advantage in terms of firepower. But, at the same time, Muslim Extremists and those they are fighting are not above using civilian vehicles to blow up roadblocks and such. Or take off their uniforms and hide in civilian crowds and then open up on the troops. Read some memoir's from Vietnam or the one or two released since Iraq to get the troops side too dude.



Oh, and stop capitalizing "CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY".... it makes your argument look stupid and childish and immature.
Dec 27 2009 5:18PM
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Mr.Panda
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It also in text form makes you sound like one of those auction announcer guys.
Dec 27 2009 5:19PM
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srwinnsuco
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CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HISTORY WILL PROVE YOU WRONG SO WILL MY CAPS KEY BITCH
Dec 27 2009 5:22PM
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Mr.Panda
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OOOOOOOO

"Now I use all caps to try and turn the thread into a joke because I realize my young mind generalizing all American servicemen as people committing "crimes against humanity" makes me look like a douche."


Shut the fuck up and realize that the military, even if you hate them, would go out of their way to protect you as an American citizen.
Dec 27 2009 5:24PM
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Mr.Panda
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Or just stop using caps. Mods will see it when they get on and probably delete his posts and possibly ban him.
Dec 27 2009 5:26PM
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Mr.Panda
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I think I am going to go cry and cut myself now.
Dec 27 2009 5:28PM
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srwinnsuco
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HAHAHAH I HOPE YOU FUCKERS BAN ME FOR CAPS LOCKS.

BETTER TELL THALL!
Dec 27 2009 5:33PM
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Mr.Panda
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Now you just sound like someone who has lost the argument and realizes they are wrong so they are trying to get everything off track.
Dec 27 2009 5:35PM
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srwinnsuco
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CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY!   Mr. Panda its true!
Dec 27 2009 5:36PM
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