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anitaskis
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I didn't read the whole gay marriage thread debate but it lead me to another thought..

I've seen some pretty nasty divorces, those of which are mostly started from money issues. I'm going to generalize here and say that during a divorce, women fight to keep as much money as possible and end up tearing the men down.. from what I've seen.

I don't think I'd ever want to get married just for that fact. Marriage is just a legal thing and if you love someone enough I don't think marriage is what should keep you together. Your love should, pure and simple.

A couple could have a ceremony of togetherness to celebrate their love rather than signing papers. A nice mock honeymoon, maybe give eachother wedding rings. Signing the papers is what really messes everyone up.

Just a thought..
Jan 10 2007 3:46PM
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NGA
Posts: 1458 - Karma: 186
100% on this with you
Jan 10 2007 3:48PM
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Capt.Flannel
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might want to go read the gay marriage thing, if you want to comment on it. Alot of great points were made, many similar to your own. Except that marriage is a religious thing that was adapted into law.
Jan 10 2007 3:48PM
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wAy2sTeEzY4u
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all you have to do is get a prenuptial agreement and whats yours is yours if you get divorced.
Jan 10 2007 3:49PM
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Capt.Flannel
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"but we're in love! we'll never get divorced and to say that we might someday means that we don't really love each other!"

that's the problem.
Jan 10 2007 3:50PM
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anitaskis
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That's true but another point is someone might not have alot of money when they marry but then later produce it. Then the spouse would still have rights to take it because a prenup was not signed but neither partner thought that far into the future with financial issues in mind.
Jan 10 2007 3:51PM
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wh@t
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yup. but thats why i dont like phsyco bitches
Jan 10 2007 3:51PM
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Capt.Flannel
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Yup. fuck wives and kids man. I honestly just want a dog and I'll be happy.
Jan 10 2007 3:52PM
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wAy2sTeEzY4u
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yeah, plus when your dog gets so ugly you cant fuck it anymore you can buy a new one.......
Jan 10 2007 3:53PM
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wh@t
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jea. but the dog has rights too man...

hahahahaha nahnah just playin homie.
Jan 10 2007 3:53PM
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NGA
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ok...weirdo
Jan 10 2007 3:53PM
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Capt.Flannel
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bingo. They don't live as long anyways, so it'd be like being a widow and getting remarried.
Jan 10 2007 3:54PM
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Craigskis
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So when she say's she wants alimony= ALLTHEMONEY

it's a play on words...
Jan 10 2007 3:54PM
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wh@t
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jea i got it man. dont worry about it.
Jan 10 2007 3:56PM
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Capt.Flannel
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I'm not weird, I just don't like other people. That may be weird in itself, I guess. But I really have no desire to get married and have children. I would rather live by myself and have a dog.
Jan 10 2007 3:56PM
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-benedetto
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i ain't sayin she a gold digger
Jan 10 2007 3:57PM
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wh@t
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just sayin Kanye West is a CRAZY nigga!

ahahahaha
Jan 10 2007 3:58PM
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reezyfbaby
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hahahahahahaha
Jan 10 2007 4:00PM
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bigdaddytmac
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my friend just got married hes 22. Fucked up man.
Jan 10 2007 4:16PM
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Capt.Flannel
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it's nuts man, I have 4 or so friends who are getting married and they're all 23 and under. What's happening?
Jan 10 2007 4:17PM
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da-bling
Posts: 1145 - Karma: 11
marraige, is basically saying that someones gonna get screw'd in the end(not the screw you want either)
Jan 10 2007 5:01PM
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gnarzard
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its really not that big a issue. its stupid not to get married cause youre scared about whats happened to some other people in the case of divorce. if you love them, you hopefully wont get divorced. and if you do, then thats that. better than living all of your life alone.
Jan 10 2007 5:08PM
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anitaskis
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You don't have to be married to have a relationship with someone. Just because you don't get married doesn't mean you'll be "alone" for the rest of your life.
Jan 10 2007 5:26PM
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Capt.Flannel
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that's true, but to avoid marriage simply because one fears the thought of divorce (not saying that this is your thought) could very well make a couple's time together even more miserable, by living in such a fear.
Jan 10 2007 5:31PM
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waynewong
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wow - Time to stop playing candyland and grow up -

People marry each other because of MONEY not LOVE

1. Tax advantages
2. Credit Advantages
3. Insurance/Health Care Advantages
4. Child/Educational Advantages

Love is great but my credit/money make my lifestyle possible - try buying a house with a "lifepartner" -
Jan 10 2007 5:31PM
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DiamondC
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you obv arent smart enough to know that ppl that are married get tax cuts and other government benefits. also, ppl wana get married cuz its a "sacred vow" of there love for one another. you get a pre nup cuz ur smart about it and the person ur marrying should understand that and if they dont, dont fucking marry them. if you dont get a pre nup u deserve wat they may do to u in the future. marriage is a great thing if ur smart about it, find the right person, the person u love the most and wana spend the rest of ur life with. and if u get a divorce, no big deal.. u got ur pre nup
Jan 10 2007 5:40PM
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freeski1620
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you also can get joint insurance if you are married. like life, health, and car. its way cheeper if you are a couple.
Jan 10 2007 6:12PM
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NGA
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well im just hoping your not really into the dog thats all
Jan 10 2007 6:37PM
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Capt.Flannel
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there will be snuggling, that is all.
Jan 10 2007 6:38PM
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Republican_Enemy
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my parents have a lot of money and they're still perfect. Actually i have a huge family with a lot of money and not one of my relatives is divorced, and i'm italian/irish and you know irish people have a lot of brothers and sisters. Oh wait wait wait let me think, maybe its because my family is roman catholic and dont get caught up with all this media/liberal way of living.
Jan 10 2007 6:42PM
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Sdot
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Hahahahaha.... ohhhhhhh my god. I don't even know how to respond to this.
Jan 10 2007 6:48PM
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garrett.
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i just noticed your name isnt pink
Jan 10 2007 6:49PM
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aja_kiki
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i heard this works out for a lot of guys actually.. so your life will be quite fun..
Jan 10 2007 6:51PM
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Capt.Flannel
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I'm pretty sure that he meant that ROMAN catholicism is much different (in the way of media and such) than many other Christian sectors.
Jan 10 2007 6:51PM
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Capt.Flannel
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As I am Roman Catholic and very proud of it, it kills me to say this, but Catholicism is definitely important in staying together (not getting divorced) not necessarily because of love, but because it's so harshly looked down upon in our religion to get divorced. So yes, it's a key part of continued marriages, but definitely not a synonym to Happily Married. While many catholic couples ARE happily married, the love and happiness are no different than other happy, loving couples.
Jan 10 2007 6:54PM
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Sdot
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Sure, but the way he phrased it implied that Roman Catholics don't get divorced because they're not all "caught up in" liberal affairs.
Jan 10 2007 6:55PM
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Capt.Flannel
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Ya I know, which is exactly why I quoted him and said my point. Do you understand what I mean though? Or am I just as nutty.
Jan 10 2007 6:56PM
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Sdot
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No, I definitely understand what you mean, and (from my observations), I agree with what you say (although you'd know much better than I, in the first place). I just thought it was ludicrous that the other kid seemed to suggest that Roman Catholics were superior and drama free and that all of their marriages were happy because of this and the fact that they aren't liberal.
Jan 10 2007 6:59PM
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Capt.Flannel
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Good deal, glad I made my point clear. And to note, I don't think Roman Catholicism is a clear cut partner to conservatism.
Jan 10 2007 7:00PM
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Republican_Enemy
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i dont mean being catholic = happy marriage, what i'm saying is nowadays one fight means oh lets get a divorce blah blah blah. Of course my parents fight, but it never goes to another level, out of say 10 of my friends only like 2 of them have parents that are together, thats wierd. What is it now close to 50% of couples get divorced, and your telling me the media and the new way of living doesnt agree with this? Fuck this whole liberal bullshit when oh if your unhappy get a divorce, you shouldnt have got married in the first place. Maybe if they had religion in their lives they would be more happy. Period.
Jan 10 2007 7:01PM
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DiamondC
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i agree with that for the most part. unless someones cheating. then all bets are off. if its just fighting, then dont be a bitch and work it out. and if u try for a couple years to work it out and it never gets settled and ALL u do is fight then yeah i guess a divorce would be good but there are way to fucking many now, its bullshit
Jan 10 2007 7:04PM
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SilkyJohnson
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I think that the problem with divorce is that people are getting married too early, wait till you are 30
Jan 10 2007 7:06PM
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Sdot
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My parents are about as liberal as they come. They have matching Priuses (one red, one blue) with matching license plates that read CONSRV and CNSERV. My father had to see a psychiatrist for months after Bush got reelected (a lot of that had to do with the fact that he works for the US Fish & Wildlife Service with migratory birds that breed on ANWR, so he was directly affected both at work AND everyday life).

Anyway, they've been happily married for 23 years, and trust me, it hasn't been a super easy road. Hell, I caused a lot of problems with my family when I was in high school. The relationship between my father and me went to shit, and my dad really didn't know how to handle raising a teenager. My mom and dad are SO ridiculously different when it comes to understanding the behavior of kids that it really did cause a strain in their marriage for a while (you'd understand if you knew the whole story). Anyway, divorce was NEVER brought up. My parents both worked very very hard to maintain their relationship (along with their sanity), along with the relationship between my father and me. They knew that yeah, there were some serious issues going on, but they truly love and respect the hell out of each other and went through a lot of rough times without considering divorce an option. Things are better now than I think they've ever been, both between my parents themselves and between my parents and me.

If there was ONE thing, and one thing only, that I always respected and admired about my parents, it was their love for one-another and ability to work together, even through the hardest of times, and support one another in any way possible.

Choosing to stay married just to avoid the whole divorce thing isn't necessarily always the best option, particularly when a couple is very unhappy (and I'm not just talking about "oh, we're unhappy at this very moment because we're in a fight").
Jan 10 2007 7:13PM
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Sdot
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On another note, I don't disagree that the divorce rate is ridiculously high these days.
Jan 10 2007 7:15PM
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derick
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ohh my god you are allsome i feel excatually the same way and plus it is a big waste of money i think that i would rather go on some like 1 mounth vacation to celabate your love for one another cause getting married costs sooooooooo much like 20 grand avarage is how much you spend that is redictualis
Jan 10 2007 7:19PM
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Republican_Enemy
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you see how they fought through it, most other couples wouuld say fuck in lets get divorced. lifes not supposed to be easy
Jan 10 2007 7:22PM
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Sdot
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Sure, you could generalize that, just like I could say that most Roman Catholic marriages, other than your parents, are unhappy ones. I don't truly feel that way, but I'm trying to make a point.
Jan 10 2007 7:24PM
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Republican_Enemy
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then whats your point? your parents fought through the hardships, isnt that your point?
Jan 10 2007 7:26PM
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Sdot
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No, my point is that your original statement is bull shit. Have you not read any of my other posts in here?
Jan 10 2007 7:28PM
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Sdot
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For example.
Jan 10 2007 7:29PM
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Republican_Enemy
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i did, must not be complete bullshit because people actually agree with me, that never happens so it must make some sense. So did your dad really cry cause bush became president, thats mad wierd. You guys should move to australia
Jan 10 2007 7:30PM
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