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Still no weapons of mass destruction

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Nine_Milla_Killa
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So Bush pretty much lied to the world. Where is the 'irrifutable evidence' of these weapons? How was Saddam a threat to freedom?
And most importantly, why were the Iraqu people more worthy of being liberated than any other country.
Now that Bush has found no WMDs, he has completely gone in the other direction and only talks about liberation and such.
But is the US doing anything to free the millions of other people who are in the same situation that the Iraqis were in? No, unless they have billions of dollars worth of oil in their country too, it seems they are shit-out-of-luck.
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Jun 7 2003 4:17AM
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Jun 7 2003 4:36AM
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i third it?
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i third it?
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i third it?
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Jun 7 2003 9:25AM
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lol, but no, we havent liberated the Iraqi people from one of the most oppressive dictators in this century
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Jun 7 2003 9:28AM
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we've only been in this century for 3 years you know
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Jun 7 2003 10:14AM
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petek
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i'm gonna say that saddam was good to most of his ppl. The only ppl he really oppressed were the kurds, and pretty much all of non-kurdish iraq, hated the kurds.






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Jun 7 2003 10:19AM
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fuck bush. hes a liar and a phony. he is a disgrace to usa.


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Jun 7 2003 10:24AM
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vegabond
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petek, im sorry to say it, but ur wrong. and the sanctions were the real problem. they werent even allowed to have normal medicine there.

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Jun 7 2003 10:41AM
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dilla_says_go
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who gives a flying fuck. its not like bush is going to make a difference. ill bet my left nut that within the next 20 years Iraq gets a new dictator.

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Jun 7 2003 10:56AM
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Jun 7 2003 11:39AM
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CanadianSkiGod
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yes, no weapons of mass destructio have been found. but saddam did need to be throwed out, though not by a war. What was it abut that prisonner's cemetery found baghdad with i dunno how many thousands of dead executed corpses? anyways im tired of talking about the war
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Jun 7 2003 11:45AM
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skierdudeguy
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ok, first off, saddam was bad to his people. would you have like electrodes on ur nads for saying you dont like him? secondly, its not about the oil. the US sits on one of, if not the biggest oil reserve in the world alaska. weapons of mass destruction, he did turn in a bomb that has chemical agents inside. they have found numerous chemical plants in those trucks or whatever. also, hans blix was such a dumbass, he gave them all the warning in the world, and when he got to iraq, he moved fucking amazingly slow, not to mention iraqi officials knew where he was going to go. lastly, the point of the inspections were not to find weapons of mass destructions, but to find proof that he destroyed them. we know he had them, so we need him to destroy them.
Jun 7 2003 12:17PM
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Itsbackfliptime
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irrifutable isn't a word. We may not have found the weapons of mass destruction but we found proof they had or have them. We found many weapons like scuds that they claimed not to have. We also freed the iraqi people. If Saddam was so good to them why did they come onto the streets and cheer for American soldiers?

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Jun 7 2003 12:56PM
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^exactly
Jun 7 2003 1:00PM
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PuNkStA
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Bcuz americans are sexy bitchs,:)
well ya i agree with you^ but i think they should have found an alternative to war.
Jun 7 2003 1:04PM
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we tried.
Jun 7 2003 1:07PM
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Itsbackfliptime
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they tried to find an alternative to war for 12 years. It didnt happen so they went to war.

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Jun 7 2003 1:08PM
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PuNkStA
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ok, my bad, your probobly right, but the one thing that pissed me off the most was the way the iraqis, burnt and looted that big historical library/museum type thing, i think thats much worse then however many lives were lost in this war.
Jun 7 2003 1:12PM
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skierdudeguy
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^huh. ok.
Jun 7 2003 1:14PM
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petek
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the second in command of the pentagon said this 'the reason why we invaded iraq, and not korea, is because korea is not floating on a sea of oil'






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Jun 7 2003 1:14PM
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petek
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I'm not sayin saddam was a good guy, he gassed the kurds, etc, but i'm sayin as dictatorships go, he did a lot of good for his country. Iraq, is the most pleasant place to live, in all of the middle east, says thousands of statistics. Now, because of the americans, baghdad lies in ruin, ppl are STILL without power, schools, power stations, museums, etc were raided, because the US were to busy defending the oil wells. Its not about the oil? 65% of the entire coalition is defending 990 oil wells, you moron! So far, iraq is in a lot worse condition then it has been when saddam was dictator.






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Jun 7 2003 1:20PM
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PuNkStA
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Ya I agree with petek, there definetly are much worse dictatorships or what have you in the middle east alone. I thinks its been pretty clear all along where the U.S.'s priorities lie.
Jun 7 2003 1:24PM
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skierdudeguy
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you know why we guarded them? because they are iraqs WHOLE ECONOMY, and saddam would have been glad to bomb them, kill people, and take iraq with him. remember, we arent taking over. now we are trying to stabilize iraq so that we can give it back to its peolple. dont give me any, 'no theyre not!' bull, its a long-term plan. we cant fix a war-ravenged country in a month. yes, we are in charge now, but what do you expect? it will be good for iraq to have us be in charge for a while.look at japan and germany, we kicked their asses, rebuilded their country, and now they are HUGE world powers.
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Jun 7 2003 1:32PM
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punksta, how can you say that a museum is more valuable then a human life? nothing is more valuable then life, especially not tangible objects, and buildings.
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Jun 7 2003 1:40PM
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PuNkStA
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An individual life has no meening to the world if it is not remembered, so if we go and destroy huge records of history we are killing everything that those historical ppl did, and we just plain lose a lot of knowledge i dont know, to me id rather lose however many lives were lost (does anybody know how many that is) then lose what thousands of ppl have worked to achieve.
Jun 7 2003 1:44PM
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PuNkStA
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what millions of ppl have worked there entire lives to achieve*
Jun 7 2003 1:45PM
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^^ur an enviromentalist vegan hippie tree-fucker,huh?
Jun 7 2003 1:48PM
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Who me?, no i just like history.
Jun 7 2003 1:55PM
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'An individual life has no meening to the world if it is not remembered'

so you're saying that the world would be the same if only important people lived here? Wow.
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Jun 7 2003 1:58PM
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PuNkStA
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Well we still remember the general populace if not individually then as the general populace, but if we dont know what the general populace was like, if we dont have records of how they lived and what conditions they lived under then that would be bad, but we do remember at least the grand majority of earthly ppl in a general sense (hence we don't just remember the important ppl).
Jun 7 2003 2:02PM
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petek
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OK, how about this, if the US is caught buying more then 1 pint of oil from iraq, then the UN will blockade all trade to the us, deal? Since it isnt about the oil and all.






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Jun 7 2003 2:21PM
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Itsbackfliptime
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That thing about human life needing to be remembered was pretty deep. Where did you find what the 2nd in command at the pentagon? Thats pretty interesting.

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Jun 7 2003 2:46PM
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gravteck
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We know Saddam existed, but we haven't found him, does that mean he doesn't exist? I don't think so. Look at the point I'm trying to make.
Jun 7 2003 3:29PM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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So the question I'm really wondering is why did the Iraqis deserve freedom more than any other country?
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gravteck
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How would you determine most deserving? Does them not deserving it the most prevent them from being able to have it. If so, that's sad.
Jun 7 2003 3:39PM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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No, but if the US is now saying that the ONLY reason they invaded Iraq is to liberate, then what about the dozens of other countries with Dictators? They don't also deserve to be liberated and to experience freedom?
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Jun 7 2003 3:43PM
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killy802, bush will be the new dictator, if he gets re-elected, say goodbye to democracy
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Jun 7 2003 3:46PM
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PuNkStA
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I dont understand gravteck's point, pleez explain.
Jun 7 2003 3:51PM
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PuNkStA
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' We know Saddam existed, but we haven't found him, does that mean he doesn't exist? I don't think so. Look at the point I'm trying to make.'
this is the one i dont understand.
Jun 7 2003 3:56PM
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gravteck
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It means we know Saddam existed, but we haven't found him. Now since we haven't found him does that mean he doesn't exist? Of course not. I'm comparing that to the existence of weapons. The failure to find weapons isn't an explanation for them not existing. In my opinion neither side has been able to prove that weapons exist or don't exist.
Jun 7 2003 5:03PM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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before the war in order to get countries like great britain to join them, the US said the y had evidence. I ask again, where is this evidence?


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Jun 7 2003 6:02PM
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PuNkStA
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Good point point gravteck, but ya Nine_Milla is right
wat was this evidence (im not nessecerily accusing cuz i dont no but if someone does and we just havnt heard pleez inform)
Jun 7 2003 6:12PM
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petek
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i still like my blockade idea.






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Jun 7 2003 6:49PM
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gravteck
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The evidence Powell presented was satellite images pointing out certain facilities and some type of chemical readings from those areas. They showed video tape of circumstances of a lot of stuff being removed from buildings weapon inspectors were to be arriving at shortly. They also had some intercepted phone calls. That was the evidence they presented.
Jun 7 2003 7:14PM
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Itsbackfliptime
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The US chose to liberate Iraq over other countries because it posed the largest threat to the US. Of course oil had something to do with it but it wasnt the only thing. They arent gonna give civilians all the details. That would be stupid of them. Theres still classified documents from WWII.

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Jun 7 2003 7:48PM
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petek
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every 100 years, they must release all unreleased info






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