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Just bought my 1st pair of boots...

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guygabay
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Hey, I just bought my first pair of boots and am not really sure if they are the way they should be.

I bought the Dalbello Krypton Rampage's. I'm 18 and I've been skiing since I'm like 5 and still don't know so much about this stuff other than how to ski.

Anyway, I think they may be to big because when I unbuckle them and walk around, it's like my foot is well in the liner, but the liner is loose within the boot. It moves around, feels like it's gonna slip out and I barely have control over the boot. So once again, it seems as if my foot fits well in the liner, but it seems as if the liner isn't big enough for the boot. This has never happened to me with any boot I've rented and doesn't seem at all normal to me... is it fine?

Anyone have this boot and possibly share the same experience?
I just bought them and the place I bought them (Sport Chalet in La Canada) has a Boot Fit Guarantee for a year. Any ideas on what I can/should do?

Looking foward to your replies!
Thanks in Advance
Dec 27 2006 4:52PM
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bda10889
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you should go to a SureFoot and get a proper fit. and an orthotic....

my $.02
Dec 27 2006 5:00PM
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FerrattiPGA
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uve been skiing since u were 5 and these ar ur 1st pair of boots?
Dec 27 2006 5:07PM
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titsLOL
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wait the liner moves around when you walk around with them unbuckled?? I dont think walking performance is really an issue with ski boots. does the liner move like that when they're buckled and your skiing? cuz that'd be an issue.
Dec 27 2006 5:16PM
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Goonther
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yeah you generally dont test a boots fit by walking in them, buckled or unbuckled. most liners slip around if you walk with everything unbuckled haha.
Dec 27 2006 5:19PM
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uni-corn
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Mine do the same thing. It is normal
Dec 27 2006 8:56PM
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guygabay
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Don't know what/where a SureFoot is and either way, I already bought the boots, they were $470 and I can't really spend anymore on boots at this point. Thanks though.

And yes, these are the first pair I've bought. I've always rented all my equipment till last season at which point I didn't even have boots yet.

And yeah... I rode with them only once yesterday and I'm pretty sure the liner didn't move while I was actually skiing... just when unbuckling them. The reason I'm concerned about this is because it seems wierd to me. It feels like my foot is about to slip out of the boot with the liner still on.

The movement of the liner in the boot isn't at all side to side... it moves with the motion of walking. For example, when you walk you lift your heel as you take steps; consequently it feels as if the liner is stuck onto my foot and the whole heel part of it is lifting within the boot and it feels like I have to sort of try a bit to keep my foot in the boot.

Clear things up a bit? Still sound normal?

Also, one more question. Is it really bad if I walk on concrete with my boots? The guy at the shop told me it's a big no no and will definitely ruin my boots. Is it recommended to get those things that you put under for walking or just a waste?

Any help is greatly appreciated!
Dec 28 2006 12:38AM
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AptosFreeskier
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Sorry but walking on concrete will damage the soles.
There not much to do but it has never affected me.
Also my ski coach has had his ten eightys boots for five years so there beat to shit but they still work fine.
Dec 28 2006 12:48AM
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Literature
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 A Surefoot is a custom made insole that is made to the shape of your feet by a computer. Many very good and pro skiiers use them, or something similar.

 Walking around in ski boots is something that will happen. You will walk over concrete, and it will scratch your boots. However, wear and tear is normal your boots may have replaceable lugs (the little shelves that hook into your binders), which you can do easily if they are too worn. The whole problem is if your boot sole becomes super worn, it may not fit into the binding correctly and you will begin to prerelease like a 2 yr old. If you can avoid it, don't walk several miles over rocks and dirt in your boots, because that is definitly not good for them.

Dec 28 2006 1:21AM
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Spitzer
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Ddi you get a shell fit done on your boot? If you haven't, then you can do it yourself.

Just take the liner out of the shell and put your foot in the shell. With your big toe just touching the front of the boot, you should have no more than 3/4 of an inch from your heel to the back of the boot. Any more than that and you have a boot that's too big.
Dec 28 2006 1:26AM
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RJD2
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It seems weird that the first pair of boots you ever bought are some top of the line ones, but hey its your money. .....$470?, hmmmmmmmmmm



http://cgi.ebay.com/Dalbello-krypton-rampage-brand-new-size-28-0-RRP-275_W0QQitemZ320065516134QQihZ011QQcategoryZ93805QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Dec 28 2006 2:05AM
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guygabay
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Thanks for all your replies so far.

As for walking in the boots on concrete, I do understand that he told me not to because it will wear it down and obviously eventually it will not fit well with your bindings.

I don't plan on walking lots with them on concrete, don't really plan on it at all, but was wondering if it's a big deal to simply walk to and from the lockers at the resort to get your shoes. I'm guessing it's not that big of a deal according to some of the replies here.

And yes, I did get em' shell fit, and their definitely isn't more than 3/4 of an inch. Thanks though.

And yeah, even though they are the first pair I've bought, I have been skiing for many years and have rented demos the past few years. Just didn't wanna buy boots for so much till my foot was fully grown because I only go up about 10-15 times a year. As for the price it was 399 for the boot itself, 30 for the superfoot insole I got, and then tax brought it up to a total of 475.

Anymore input regarding the whole initial problem I have of the liner sort of lifting up as I walk would be great!

Thanks
Dec 28 2006 3:12AM
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unchyll
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no its not like you absouletly cant walk on them on concrete just try not to boot ski down asphault hills
Dec 28 2006 8:10AM
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Spitzer
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You may need a small heel lift if you find your heels are lifting off the bottom of your boot. Definitely go back and talk to a bootfitter about getting your boots dialed.
Dec 28 2006 1:24PM
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Riley.
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Just for size reference....I have a size 11 street shoe and a size 8.5 salomon boot.
Dec 28 2006 4:08PM
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lyndon
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how, i wear a 9.5 adidas shoe, adna 9.5 salomon Foil...
Dec 28 2006 4:21PM
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AptosFreeskier
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Did you get them shell fit?
I wear 11 skate shoes and a 26.5 boot. They fit perfectly.
Dec 28 2006 5:21PM
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Snowcase
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Wait are you kidding? Your liners move when your boots are unbuckled? Huh, that seems like a very odd thing.
Dec 28 2006 5:38PM
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J.D.
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Uh. This seems like the sort of thread to make before buying boots.
Dec 28 2006 7:09PM
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andrewbressette
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the one thing you'll wanna be real careful about on your boots as far as walking around on asphalt is concerned, is the AFD (anti-friction device). that's the smooth part on the bottom of the boot below the toes. THe condition of that piece greatly affcts how the boot releases from the bindings. If you dmg that too much you're looking inconsistent binding releases.
Dec 28 2006 8:36PM
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guygabay
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Spitzer, what do you mean by get your boots dialed?
Dec 29 2006 6:02AM
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Spitzer
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Get your boots fitted to your foot. Everybody's feet are different so it's not a bad idea to get a bootfitter to do a thorough fit. Boots are the most important part of your setup... A good fit will ensure that you get the most out of your skis and bindings.

It's one thing to get fitted, another to get it customized to your feet. If your heel is in fact lifting, then there shouldn't be any charge at all for your shop to fix that problem.
Dec 29 2006 2:29PM
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skidemon22
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are u retarded??
Dec 29 2006 6:31PM
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guygabay
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Spitzer thanks a lot for your input. I will go get that done.

As for skidemon, are you serious man? Not knowing is way different than being retarded. I'm here on this forum to learn more about the subject and what I should do in my case, not to get shit from people like you.

Think about it before you make useless remarks next time. One reason this forum exists is for people to learn and ask questions.
Dec 30 2006 1:18AM
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