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hey guys, i learnt to ski last year, and i was skiing most of the runs at my mountain fairly easily, so i decided to start freeskiing. i've been pointed towards the salomon teneighty foil setup wit either z12 B85 or B90. and for boots, should i go for spk, or foil? btw, i've heard good stuff about line chronic and armada ar6, should i go for either of those two? thanks guys
yeah, so what? i play hockey and skate up to 4 times a week, and a long time snowboarder so my shit's in the right place. i'd probably be a park rat in skiing tho. skating made it SOOO much easier to learn, i was carving on my first day (well i got a short private lesson too lol), and snowboarding made it natural for me to whizz over snow.
as for the ar6's, which i also ride. they are amazing. even in the trees, moguls, park, rails, and even had two feet of fresh last time i went, and was really suprised how well they were in the pow.
thanks guys, keep the recommendations coming! i now know my boots, but i've heard of delamination from salomon twins and weak topsheets on armadas. foil or ar6?
Remember that riding park will put alot of stress on whatever skis you get
The foils have ton's of pop but due to the foam core they will eventually lose it (this is years down the line though)
The AR6's are this years model so anything you have heard about their duirability is probably just a rumor, the old AR5's were pretty bullet proof and I love mine
I would also look at Line Invaders, they are a park specific ski, they had delam problems last year but those have been fixed.
Other park skis you could check out would be Rossi Scratch FS's, K2 Silencer's/Public Enemy's, and 4frnt STL's
yeah i got this years invaders, good ski cheap price, ive heard the topsheets can chip easily but mine haven't at least my bottoms are fine and edges im happy
thanks, but i dont want a cap ski (k2 silencer) and HOLY SHIT, A FOAM CORE IN FOILS?!!! def not buying those anymore. ok one last question, would i be able to do rails with armada pipe cleaners? if not i'll just take ar6.
it's possible but it's a stupid idea, definitely not what that ski was designed for, if your just getting into park don't get pipe cleaners (I doubt you could find any anyways)
ya the foil boot is sick...the salomn rep gave me them instead of the spk (i aked for the spk) and he gave me the foil and he told me that controlling that boot will be harb and there will be lots of toe room, ive only skied my bbots 2 times...but i love them..they are so light and easy to control its a really good boot.......as for the skis i would say any salomon twin tip how tall are you and whats your wheight?????
im pretty sure that the pipe cleaners would be good on rails, there supposedly good in the park according to Armada so im assuming that includes rails.
I still havent found a shop that stocks the SPK boot, I really want to see one up close. I've held some Kryptons though, those are really damn nice boots.
here in boulder there is a shop that carries the SPK, I'm definitely buying them next year, they fit my wider foot awesome and the two buckle system is pretty cool. It's really a great boot, the foil isn't bad either, they seemed pretty similar to me.
the pipe cleaners can do rails and really their not for your first year in the park....you will just look like some rich spoiled kid...just stick with AR6's
my friend has the spk and boyy do they look confortable. they are also pretty light i hear? my other friend had 1080 foils a couple yrs ago ( idk if its diff) but his delamd so he got dogens
k2s are good tho
thank u guys so much, so receptive. yeah uh b80 means eighty millimetre brake for ur waist width lol same for the other ones. kryptons are fuck expensive, and spks seem nice, but they are hard to find. so i got my setup, ar6, armada poles, salomon binders, and teneighty foils. waht about dem 4frnt binders tho? they got some nice brake for riding switch i hear. btw guys if u want the same shin pad shit goin on wit ur foils as the spks then buy R.E.D. rail guards, they made for boarding but i hear they are off the fucking hook. for the guy who asked, im about 5'8" and weigh 147, i think i should be riding around 170. and im sorry but foam core = wet noodle, no thanks salomon. now, like i said, 4frnt binders, or salomon binders?
i've had a few pair of salomon's. i live in wisconsin so the skiing is pretty brutal on them here. either way, my salomon's held up twice as long as my friend's armadas and another's lines. however, the topsheet did begin to split from all the bang of icy landings and other shit. the thing to remember is that all skis will begin to come apart someday, its enevitable. one thing i did was install my own rivets, kind of like k2 puts on their skis. and if i'm not mistaken, salomon has riveted their spk model, the foil is not. salomon really does make quality products, i would suggest the foil for an all around ski, but you may want to take a look at the k2 public enemys or fujatives. depending on where you ski, i would suggest a ski with rivets, it will really prolong the lifespan of the ski.
i unno man, if spks are wood then i wouldnt mind em, but foam is just retarded, wood has wway more pop, and i just asked some guy on tramdock (online shop) and he said foils are softer, so ar6 would kill it.
foils are a great ski! i have some myself! it minght be a jump, for your second year of sking! and the difference between the z12 ti b85 and the b80 is the color. its the same binding. i happen to think the white ones look amazing though!
The foam cores make the skis very lightweight which is nice in the park, If I were you I would demo the skis you were looking at before buying any of them.
Try out the Foil's, AR6's, ARV's, Invaders, and anything else you think you'll like
pft, i wish, all i can do is lift em up in the shop and flex em. we dont get any armada demos at blue, maybe a salomon if we're lucky, but prolbably only race skis.
unless your a big guy and push real hard, pullin the big shit your second year, not saying you can't, the foils will hold up and after two seasons you will probably get new skis anyway/maybe, and also i have last years foil and they are keeping their pop real well but im not that big of a guy and im only like 135, also i guess many say the core is still decent after a season or two of good use, hope that helped a little
i have 2 sets of skis, one with rossi bindings and the other with salomons.
Rossi = heavy but perfect so far
Salomon = light with very minor prereleasing