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JAYTRON
Posts: 2373 - Karma: 16

For a class, I am designing a new binding. The brakes would be able to rotate around, making it better for switch riding. For part of the class I project, I need people to fill out surveys. So If you could fill out this survey, and give your input.

How often do you go downhill skiing a year?

Never______ (stop now)    1-5 times_______     6-15 times_______      15+______

 

What type of terrain do you usually ski?

Beginner (green)­­­_____ Intermediate(blue)______         Advanced(black)_____

Glades(woods trails)________ Moguls_________       Terrain parks________

 

 Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?

 Yes___________       No____________

 

Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?

 Yes___________       No____________       I hear that happening­­­­­­­­­­________

 

Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?

 

Yes, at any cost________        No_________             Only if the price was right________


Thanks for the help NS!

Dec 14 2006 3:08PM
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RudyGarmisch
Posts: 25443 - Karma: 13,844
15+

Glades/Black/Terrain Park

Never had a binding break. How would a reversible brake system work anyways?
Dec 14 2006 3:11PM
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Pigletpen
Posts: 1137 - Karma: 18
how do you break a binding while skiing switch?
i think you should post a diagram of this "reversable" binding.
a blueprint, or something tangable.
sounds like more mechanical breakable stuff on a binding. I break my breaks constantly, I even made a thread about it, TWICE. So if you think you can build a better break i think i would buy it.

Dec 14 2006 3:14PM
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mnjib
Posts: 5592 - Karma: 362
How often do you go downhill skiing a year?

Never______ (stop now) 1-5 times_______ 6-15 times_______ 15+___x___



What type of terrain do you usually ski?

Beginner (green)­­­_____ Intermediate(blue)______ Advanced(black)__x___

Glades(woods trails)________ Moguls_________ Terrain parks____x____



Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?

Yes_____x______ No____________



Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?

Yes_____x______ No____________ I hear that happening­­­­­­­­­­________



Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?



Yes, at any cost________ No_________ Only if the price was right____x____


Thanks for the help NS!
Dec 14 2006 3:14PM
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Lineskier-101
Posts: 7863 - Karma: 22
How often do you go downhill skiing a year?


Never______ (stop now) 1-5 times_______ 6-15 times_____yup__ 15+______





What type of terrain do you usually ski?


Beginner (green)­­­_____ Intermediate(blue)______ Advanced(black)_Mhm____

Glades(woods trails)___mhm_____ Moguls____mhm_____ Terrain parks__mhm______





Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?


Yes_____Of course______ No____________





Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?


Yes________Yes___ No____________ I hear that happening­­­­­­­­­­________





Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?






Yes, at any cost________ No_________ Only if the price was right__Yes______



Dec 14 2006 3:14PM
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Sharko
Posts: 2274 - Karma: 4,101
I don't understand how it would work. Do you have to turn the brake around by hand?
Dec 14 2006 3:14PM
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Ryanvdonk
Posts: 12811 - Karma: 1,971
umm, i already have 15 days in, so 15+
i ski everything,
never broken a binding, but have had rip outs and tons of broken brakes.
what would a reverable brake do? an then wouldn't it break going normal?
Dec 14 2006 3:16PM
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skiinscotland
Posts: 644 - Karma: 10
How often do you go downhill skiing a year?
15+

What type of terrain do you usually ski?
Advanced, Glades, Terrain parks

Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?
Yes

Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?
Yes

Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?
Only if the price was right
Dec 14 2006 3:17PM
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Powder_JR
Posts: 8 - Karma: 11
How often do you go downhill skiing a year?


Never______ (stop now) 1-5 times_______ 6-15 times_______ 15+_x





What type of terrain do you usually ski?


Beginner (green)­­­_____ Intermediate(blue)______ Advanced(black)__x

Glades(woods trails)________ Moguls_________ Terrain parks__x





Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?


Yes__x No____________





Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?


Yes___x No____________ I hear that happening­­­­­­­­­­________





Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?






Yes, at any cost________ No_________ Only if the price was right__x


Ive broken a couple.
Hope this helps








Dec 14 2006 3:17PM
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Ryanvdonk
Posts: 12811 - Karma: 1,971
and i do ski switch quite a bit.
Dec 14 2006 3:17PM
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aidansheahan
Posts: 933 - Karma: 5,358
15+
ski every thing
and HAVE broken a binding.
i understand your idea, and i think it would be awsome.
Dec 14 2006 3:19PM
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aidansheahan
Posts: 933 - Karma: 5,358
but, it would not be good for straight riding, unless i dont fully understand it
Dec 14 2006 3:24PM
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CBROOKS
Posts: 4979 - Karma: 10,708
How often do you go downhill skiing a year?
15+


What type of terrain do you usually ski?

Advanced

Terrain Parks



Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?

Yes



Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?

Yes


Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?



if the price was right


Dec 14 2006 3:31PM
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snowdiver
Posts: 668 - Karma: 12
How often do you go downhill skiing a year?


Never______ (stop now) 1-5 times_______ 6-15 times_______ 15+__x____





What type of terrain do you usually ski?


Beginner (green)­­­_____ Intermediate(blue)______ Advanced(black)___x__

Glades(woods trails)__x______ Moguls_________ Terrain parks___x_____





Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?


Yes___x________ No____________





Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?


Yes____x_______ No____________ I hear that happening­­­­­­­­­­________





Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?






Yes, at any cost________ No_________ Only if the price was right____x____


Thanks for the help NS!
Dec 14 2006 3:35PM
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Lineskier-101
Posts: 7863 - Karma: 22
Good idea, but you have to think of a totally new binding, you can't just turn it around, because what happens if you eject while going regular? The same thing will happen when you eject while going switch.
Dec 14 2006 3:36PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
Posts: 9108 - Karma: 16
How often do you go downhill skiing a year?
15

What type of terrain do you usually ski?
Everything besides green

Do you ever ski or land switch
Yes

Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?
Heard about it but never seen it personaly

Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?
Maybe

Yo, don't just quote the survey and fill it in, it's gonna make it a lot longer.
Dec 14 2006 3:41PM
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drwclrk
Posts: 1114 - Karma: 719

What type of terrain do you usually ski?


Beginner (green)­­­_____ Intermediate(blue)______ Advanced(black)__x___

Glades(woods trails)____x____ Moguls_____x____ Terrain parks____x____

Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?


Yes_____x______ No____________

Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?


Yes___________ No____________ I hear that happening­­­­­­­­­­____x____


Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?

Yes, at any cost________ No_________ Only if the price was right__Yes______

Dec 14 2006 3:57PM
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feezy
Posts: 2022 - Karma: 23
HE IS SAYING YOU COULD ROTATE THE BINDING BEFORE A SWITCH RUN.
and then after the switch run rotate it back.

it would be a piece of shit.
Dec 14 2006 4:00PM
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DANETRON
Posts: 6671 - Karma: 137
wont work
Dec 14 2006 4:50PM
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BurgRider
Posts: 1597 - Karma: 17
my brakes are usually up while im skiing switch so I dont really have a problem with it..haha
Dec 14 2006 5:22PM
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BurgRider
Posts: 1597 - Karma: 17
the only way i could see that possible working is if it were something like the original mad trix that had the rotating binding plate but that would be gay and still wouldnt work
Dec 14 2006 5:23PM
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wrenegade
Posts: 6631 - Karma: 41
Ski 15+ times per year
Ski Park, Trees, Backcountry
Yes I ski and land switch all the time
No I have never broken a binding going switch
No I would never buy a binding with a reversable brake. It sounds like the dumbest idea ever. My skis stop just fine when I lose a ski going backwards.
Dec 14 2006 5:33PM
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drewishish
Posts: 3710 - Karma: 23
How often do you go downhill skiing a year?

Never______ (stop now) 1-5 times_______ 6-15 times_______ 15+____X__



What type of terrain do you usually ski?

Beginner (green)­­­__X___ Intermediate(blue)____X__ Advanced(black)____X_

Glades(woods trails)___X(kinda?)_____ Moguls____X_____ Terrain parks_____X___



Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?

Yes________X___ No____________



Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?

Yes________X___ No____________ I hear that happening­­­­­­­­­­________



Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?



Yes, at any cost________ No_________ Only if the price was right___X_____


Dec 14 2006 5:36PM
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Goonther
Posts: 469 - Karma: 9
15+ times
All terrain
Yes
I hear that happening
No

Dec 14 2006 5:37PM
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STACKS
Posts: 1938 - Karma: 42
not to be a hater or anything but i think this is kind of a dumb idea why don't you just design an all metal binding with cool graphics
Dec 14 2006 5:39PM
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dozerr
Posts: 4007 - Karma: 403
i dont understand, wouldnt reversing the brake just make it so that your brake breaks when you  pop out going regular?
Dec 14 2006 5:39PM
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fcspiteri
Posts: 65 - Karma: 14
15+
Terrain Parks
Yes
Yes
Yes, if the price was similar to cost of bindings currently available
Dec 14 2006 5:41PM
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Petya_Brunette
Posts: 116 - Karma: 10
How often do you go downhill skiing a year?


I Go skiing 15+ times a year





What type of terrain do you usually ski?


i ski double blacks, glades, back country, and parks.







Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?


I always ski backwards because i'm the best skier on new schoolers





Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?


I have never broken my binding because i am the best skier on new schoolers and i dont fall or eject.




Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?






I would invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch only if my sponsor, Fischer provided them to me for free which they would if they carried that binding.
Dec 14 2006 5:45PM
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JAYTRON
Posts: 2373 - Karma: 16
that's not what I'm saying at all.  The brake arms would have a spot near the top of them that would be able to pivot around 90° forward. you don't just spin the brake around, when you land switch, if the brake starts to come down, because you are leaning to far forward, instead of catching and pushing the heel piece off, it would use the energy to push the brake arm backward, and thus drag as though you were skiing forward, instead of digging into the snow. You don't need to do anything special, and its just the brake this is different, not the whole binding. And thanks for the help. The only design I have of it is in CAD, but when I get the plastic prototype, I'll post pics of it. Here I'll try to make a quick sketch in paint for you to understand it.
Dec 14 2006 5:45PM
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Sharko
Posts: 2274 - Karma: 4,101
Um... you do realize that if the arms just flip back and forth when there is on them that they won't stop a loose ski from going down the hill right?
Dec 14 2006 5:50PM
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MadSteezin
Posts: 4572 - Karma: 936
1. 15+

2. Advanced(black), Glades(woods trails), Terrain parks

3. Yes

4. No

5. ?.... How would reversible brakes prevent binding breakage?
Dec 14 2006 6:00PM
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JAYTRON
Posts: 2373 - Karma: 16
yea but they only rotate from where they normally are, when riding forward to 90° forward, so when you ride switch they don't drag. they wont be able to rotate more, so they wont drag. The problem I had was to stop them from dragging, when they are suppose to be up riding and not releasing.... here im making the paint photo now.
Dec 14 2006 6:05PM
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HeathR
Posts: 4359 - Karma: 1,382
at first i did not get it but now it makes sense.
Dec 14 2006 6:09PM
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steezyjibber
Posts: 15967 - Karma: 11,026

Dec 14 2006
3:08:25 For a class, I am designing a new binding. The brakes would be able to rotate around, making it better for switch riding. For part of the class I project, I need people to fill out surveys. So If you could fill out this survey, and give your input.


How often do you go downhill skiing a year?


15+





What type of terrain do you usually ski?


Intermediate(blue)

Terrain parks





Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?


Yes





Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?


Yes




Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?






Yes, at any cost


Dec 14 2006 6:13PM
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HeathR
Posts: 4359 - Karma: 1,382
15+

everything

yes

yes

Only if the price was right
Dec 14 2006 6:17PM
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eheath
Posts: 61602 - Karma: 123,028
How often do you go downhill skiing a year?

Never______ (stop now) 1-5 times_______ 6-15 times_______ 15+___x___



What type of terrain do you usually ski?

Beginner (green)­­­__x___ Intermediate(blue)___x___ Advanced(black)___x__

Glades(woods trails)____x____ Moguls____x_____ Terrain parks____x____



Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?

Yes____xxx_______ No____________



Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?

Yes____xxxx_______ No____________ I hear that happening­­­­­­­­­­________



Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?



Yes, at any cost____x____ No_________ Only if the price was right________
Dec 14 2006 6:18PM
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SkiingRocks89
Posts: 369 - Karma: 11
15+
Black Diamonds/terrain park
I have never broken a binding riding switch (how can you?)
I would if the binding costed the right amount and if it actually did something that current bindings can't
Dec 14 2006 6:19PM
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TheQuailman
Posts: 7382 - Karma: 147
How often do you go downhill skiing a year?


Never______ (stop now) 1-5 times_______ 6-15 times_______ 15+____X__





What type of terrain do you usually ski?


Beginner (green)­­­_____ Intermediate(blue)______ Advanced(black)___X__

Glades(woods trails)________ Moguls_________ Terrain parks_____X___





Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?


Yes_____X______ No____________





Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?


Yes______X_____ No____________ I hear that happening­­­­­­­­­­________





Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?






Yes, at any cost________ No_________ Only if the price was right______X__

Dec 14 2006 6:20PM
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JAYTRON
Posts: 2373 - Karma: 16
this is what it kinda looks like... the silver thing is a pivot point, and the brown is what it would look like if released going switch.
Click for larger image
Dec 14 2006 6:23PM
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mistaskia
Posts: 1252 - Karma: 32
How often do you go downhill skiing a year?

Never______ (stop now) 1-5 times_______ 6-15 times_______ 15+___x___



What type of terrain do you usually ski?

Beginner (green)­­­_____ Intermediate(blue)______ Advanced(black)__x___

Glades(woods trails)________ Moguls_________ Terrain parks____x____



Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?

Yes_____x______ No____________



Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?

Yes___________ No____x________ I hear that happening­­­­­­­­­­________



Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?



Yes, at any cost________ No_________ Only if the price was right____x____


Thanks for the help NS!
Dec 14 2006 7:41PM
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396222687862
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nice idea man
Dec 14 2006 7:46PM
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cofreeskier
Posts: 3189 - Karma: 15
How often do you go downhill skiing a year?

15+ times



What type of terrain do you usually ski?

Advanced(black)

Glades(woods trails),Moguls, Terrain parks



Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?

Yes



Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?

No


Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?



Only if the price was right

Dec 14 2006 7:50PM
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drewishish
Posts: 3710 - Karma: 23
so what if your ski came off switch, would it still catch on the brake then? or would it just flip?
if the answer is no then you would halve to have it pretty hard to spin around and yet easy enough to not break the break right?
Dec 14 2006 7:50PM
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ajax
Posts: 2852 - Karma: 1,245
15+, advanced, yes, yes, no
Dec 14 2006 8:24PM
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ds.181.3
Posts: 437 - Karma: 29
same, but i ski trees too.
Dec 14 2006 8:38PM
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JAYTRON
Posts: 2373 - Karma: 16
the brake would come out, but instead of jabbing into like it normally would, it would come out and extra 90° so it would be able to drag going switch. That was my problem was how hard I wanted it to be to rotate it around. Turns out it's quite a bit of force, so it makes it easier to work.
Dec 14 2006 8:39PM
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duhamelski
Posts: 3842 - Karma: 192
How often do you go downhill skiing a year?

Never______ (stop now) 1-5 times_______ 6-15 times_______ 15+___X___



What type of terrain do you usually ski?

Beginner (green)­­­_____ Intermediate(blue)______ Advanced(black)__X___

Glades(woods trails)______X__ Moguls____X_____ Terrain parks____X____



Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?

Yes____X_______ No____________



Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?

Yes___________ No______X______ I hear that happening­­­­­­­­­­________



Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?


if it was only a cool feature on a good set of bindings. but not for that reason
Dec 14 2006 8:42PM
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JAYTRON
Posts: 2373 - Karma: 16
any one else have some input on this?
Dec 15 2006 12:03PM
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Greenish
Posts: 2047 - Karma: 367
How often do you go downhill skiing a year?

Never______ (stop now) 1-5 times_______ 6-15 times_______ 15+___x___



What type of terrain do you usually ski?

Beginner (green)_______ Intermediate(blue)______ Advanced(black)_____

Glades(woods trails)________ Moguls_________ Terrain parks____x____



Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?

Yes_____x______ No____________



Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?

Yes___________ No____________ I hear that happening_____x____



Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?



Yes, at any cost________ No_________ Only if the price was right____x____





BOYYYYYIIINNNN
Dec 15 2006 12:08PM
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jib_kid_01
Posts: 248 - Karma: 10
Wow i Was just talking to my physics teacher about something like this... anyway

How often do you go downhill skiing a year?


Never______ (stop now) 1-5 times_______ 6-15 times_______ 15+___X___





What type of terrain do you usually ski?


Beginner (green)­­­_____ Intermediate(blue)______ Advanced(black)__X___

Glades(woods trails)____X____ Moguls____X_____ Terrain parks____X____





Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?


Yes_____X______ No____________





Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?


Yes_____X______ No____________ I hear that happening­­­­­­­­­­________





Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?






Yes, at any cost____X____ No_________ Only if the price was right________
Dec 15 2006 12:14PM
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SIX
Posts: 4595 - Karma: 506
How often do you go downhill skiing a year?

Never______ (stop now) 1-5 times_______ 6-15 times_______ 15+___X___



What type of terrain do you usually ski?

Beginner (green)­­­_____ Intermediate(blue)______ Advanced(black)_____

Glades(woods trails)________ Moguls_________ Terrain parks___X____



Do you ever ski or land switch (backwards)?

Yes____X_____ No____________



Have you ever been with someone, or personally broken a binding skiing switch?

Yes___________ No_____X______ I hear that happening­­­­­­­­­­________



Would you invest in a freestyle park binding that had a reversible brake that would help to stop bindings from breaking while skiing switch?



Yes, at any cost________ No_________ Only if the price was right___X____


Dec 15 2006 12:15PM
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