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I have real problems with boots
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Every boot I wear, my shins hurt so bad that i can't walk for a while. I don't know what it is, I have my boots done up real loose, but dunno what to do about it
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maybe it's because your boots are done up real loose?
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um...yeah...loose equals shin bang, even if ur wearing the
SPK super duper never get shin bang 3000s
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Loose? But they seem to like stab me when I ski if they're tight
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Maybe you need to break them in.
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if they hurt tight A) u already are suffering shin bang or B) they dont fit properly. Also ur probably not landing right. I just said dont have them loose i know, but i ride fairly loose in the scheme of things i just land right more often then not.
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Mmm, well I ski %100 park, and the park staff never ever do anything to it, since it's indoor (well they do at night) So everything is ICE as on landings and so would that be why?
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yes. plus tehnique, plus repetition.
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were is this indoor park?
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Yeah I do that for a break when they get to real bad, but it feels stupid boarding... just not right
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bingo technique is a big factor
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Okay, well what do I do then?
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you tighten your boots, buy smaller ones, and or learn to buckle right.
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if your boots are killing you feet that bad, it sounds like you need new boots.
Or you can go to your local ski shop and see if you can get a custom liner, or even putting a better footbed might help your shin bang problem.
But your boots shouldn't be loose around your shin.
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Sounds like someone is landing backseat.
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They aren't loose around anywhere, but I did always have them done up pretty much as loose as they will go, and just put them on way tighter, and strapped onto my skis on the carpet and tried snapping up ollies and nollies, and it didn't hurt :D :D :D
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Well not as bad at least.
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make sure they are tight and the power strap is tight, also learn how to land more solid, avoid backseat as much as possible, also it sounds like they are to big for you, also if u have had them forever they will park out and get bigger, buy boots that seem too small to begin with and they will be perfect after a few times skiing
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Hm sorry if this is a extremely noob question, but how exactly does "wrong techniques" in the park affect your shins/injuries etc, can anyone be a little bit more specific? I just don't quite get how landing backseat would bust your shins, wouldn't it damage them more if you were PRESSING against the front of your legs?
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YEah what does backseat mean? haha I don't have to worry about this, ima snowboarder
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get new boots, get a pro boot fitter to size you up and all that. Make sure to tell him whats happening, im sure those guys get that stuff all the time. Boot fitters are the best people on earth.
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Landing back seat causes your shin muscles to stretch, and in turn straining them giving you "shin bang".
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No, Since when do Stretch and bang go together? what happens is you land back seat and then fall forward so there is a small impact of the shin against the boot.
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Because noobs named it. You most def strain the muscles, you can feel it.
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anyone know where to buy shintronics now that their site stopped selling em?
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landing backseat (aka landing on your tails rather than on the balls of your feet for the dude who was wondering) and quickly snapping back forward stretches and inflames the muscles and tendons running from your shin to your ankle. The condition gets worse when you then get backseat to avoid the pain, and the tendons get stretched even more. Very little shin bang "injuries" are actually caused by bruising your shins by hitting them against the front of your liner. The name is misleading.
So the next time you get shin bang, resist the urge to ski backseat and start landing switch until your shins heal.
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your shin also gets alot pessure on it from your boot when landing back seat
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also landing back seat, think about the leverage factor and all your wieght being back. it stresses your legs/shins alot, its hard to explain. the backs of boots are stiff, so with all the weight behind you theres a point in your leg that it will kinda "bend" back. ah this is hard to explain and it really doesnt bend it just stresses your lower legs alot. fuck i give up. n ways back seat is bad, its pulls muscles and obviosuly makes your shins hurt. ski boots are made to be skied with forward pressure, thats why they have canting. when your ski you should feel like ur pushing your shins into the front of your boots. ski like your putting most of your weight on the balls of your feet. quit leaning back not only do you look dumb your in less control and you get shin bang.
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Sweet thanks guys, I think the main thing is maybe them not fitting right? And allways having them done up wrong. But i'll keep the backseat landings in mind.
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maybe you have the condition known as FCS or Fat Calve Syndrom!
if this is the case, you are doomed to a life of sore shins and whinning and bitching about it.
But there is help.. get a bale extender, and have more room for your huge lower legs.
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can this happen if they are new boots and are just not broken into? Becuase i have just skied no jumping yet and my shins fucking kill when i ski, maybe not as much while im skiing but when im walking or standing in line. Any suggestions? Pressure point or something?
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yes boots can be painful until they are fully packed out. the 1st week or so of skiing they normally are a little un comfortable but get better. after a week and a half to 2 weeks if they still hurt go get them checked out asap. boots should seem too small at first when you get them but get better as you break them in. but if they continue to be like that then its a problem. also again technique... but i dont think thats the case here but it could be
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yes boots can be painful until they are fully packed out. the 1st week or so of skiing they normally are a little un comfortable but get better. after a week and a half to 2 weeks if they still hurt go get them checked out asap. boots should seem too small at first when you get them but get better as you break them in. but if they continue to be like that then its a problem. also again technique... but i dont think thats the case here but it could be
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tight boots works the best. I had really loose boots for so long, then bought a good pair and wore them super tight, and now, no more shin bang!!!
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I just posted this in the "Shintronics" thread, but it is probably appropriate in this one too, so here it is again.
There is NO PRODUCT that can "eliminate" shin bang. Shin bang is caused by being backseat, and no matter what kind of shit you put in your boots, if you still get backseat a lot, the shinbang will continue to be a problem.
When you land or ski backseat, the periosteum (membrane that covers the bone) gets irritated in the front of the tibia, because it is being stretched too much as the bone flexes over the back of the boot. The fibrous tissue that connects to the bone gets broken down, and that is why the front of your shin gets so sore.
So, to treat the "symptom" you can use accessories, ice, advil, shave, etc. But to truly treat the CAUSE, you need to focus more on your stance than on any piece of merchandise.
That's why most pros (who ski hundred+ day seasons), simply use properly fitted ski boots, and except for custom footbeds, you generally won't see a pro using "boot accessories".
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bingo thts wut i was trying to explain. perfect! a+ for you sir
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Yeah i hope they are just from being new. But i think my technique is fine and mi not backseat that is what conernd me. Becuase everytime i put my boots on my shins feel the tongue and start to hurt right away.
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ya but the thing is is that its hard to tell if your skiing back seat or not. shin bang is caused by that so im thinking even tho it seems like ur not is that you still are. when your skiing really try to push your shins into the tounge, same with landing on jumps. boots are madeto be skiied over them reasons why there is canting. so really try to do that. ski around the whole mountain for a few days and concentrate on that.
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well it might not be shin bang at all. I know in my old lange boots i used to get pain in my shins, but it wasnt shin bang it was from them rubbing on my shins all the time. I shaved that leg and it wasnt as bad, then i got new boots and it went away.
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YES!!! EXACTLY! My boots just feel like the have rocks in the toungue
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What kind of boots do you have?
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Sounds like you had your boots really loose, you then got boot bang and now it hurts to tighten them.
Take a little time off. In your time off, take a cold beer, coke, or sprite and role it up and down your shin. This will break all the junk up the creates boot bang. Then, you need to get a booster strap and replace the top strap on your boot. When you put your boot on, get your foot in place and do up your top buckles and strap. Get em good and tight, but don't over-do it. Then tighten your bottom buckles so they just make your shell waterproof. You should be good to go.
If the problem persists, go to your local bootfitter and have them pad out the tongue of your boot with some foam. It will give you some extra padding there and take up some room so your boots will fit better.
Remember, boot bang comes from boots that are too loose, not to tight.
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The key to no shin bang is this...and trust me ive had baaaaaaaaaaad shin bang problems in the past and ive taken boot fitting seminars. Get a boot that fits well...I wear size 11 street shoe and size 9 boot. 2 sizes small is good cause they will pack out. Make sure it is comfortable on your foot yet very snug....so that your toes are just barely touching the front. you dont want em curled over. Make sure they are buckled tight. Boots flex is made to work with your body the way you ski. The boot is supposed to flex with your leg as you push foward. You dont want your leg flexing inside of the boot. Tighten up that top buckle and strap!!!!. Make sure your heel is snug and your good to go!
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I was told by a friends dad who is huge on racing that there is a proper way to put on your boots. First you put on your boots sitting down, put on the strap first, very snugly. Then proceed to buckle your bottom two buckles, make sure they are snug as well. Then you do your last two at the top. Once those are all done, stand up and flex forwards. This will push your heel back into the heelbox. Redo your top two buckles and tighten the strap.
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