Make your own butter zone

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OK, this is purely theoretical, i'm not actually doing this to my skis, but i just thought of this and i want input from people who know more about the physics of ski construction than i do....

ok so if you took a sander and sanded off a thin layer (under the topsheet) from the top of ur ski, lets say 4 inches in front of ur binding, do u think this would create a "butter zone" or simply lead to the ski snapping the next time it was flexed?

Dec 11 2006 11:48AM

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DANETRON

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top sheet has nothing to do with snapping the core

Dec 11 2006 11:51AM

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Snowcase

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He was talking about under the topsheet and its way more work than its worth.

Dec 11 2006 11:53AM

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DANETRON

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O ok. if your gonna do that you might as well make your own skis

Dec 11 2006 11:57AM

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Melvs

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theoretically, if you were able to perfectly remove the topsheet without doing any sort of damage to the core (which in itself is 100% impossible), sanding some off jut right could give you a butter zone... but it's impossible.

Dec 11 2006 11:58AM

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seanjurewicz

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I'd think they'd just snap. Also I hear the butter zone kinda sucks anyways.

Dec 11 2006 11:58AM

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CEDARIMAGE

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your skis would snap

Dec 11 2006 12:03PM

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bikerocker

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dude, just be core and learn how to butter with stiff skis.

Dec 11 2006 12:12PM

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bass_munkie

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meh... you'd probly loose some tortional rigidity across the width of the ski by removing fiberglass but it won't really give you a "butter zone" or work right well.

i could be completely wrong though. i don't see it working.

Dec 11 2006 12:15PM

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BurgRider

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it would ruin your ski. and if you somehow did get it to work your ski would most likely snap

Dec 11 2006 12:26PM

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Greenish

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just go buy some fucking t halls

Dec 11 2006 12:27PM

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cmo

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yea you wouldnt be able to remove your topsheet, so no you cant do it

Dec 11 2006 12:39PM

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theFrenchman

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butter, with stiff skis..... hm I still struglle to do that...

Dec 11 2006 12:44PM

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smuggsVT

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word

Dec 11 2006 1:20PM

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Pigletpen

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i bet if you had an infinite amount of time, with an infinite amount of monkies, and trained them on ski manufacturing: they could totally take the top sheet off.
But i dont think you would be making any headway in a butter zone, just making it lighter.
Isnt the invaders butter dealy kind of alike a hinge within the ski, where there is the part under your boot, a small macroblock, then the rest of the core? kinda like this?

(===========---========)
^"butter zone"

Dec 11 2006 1:21PM

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jonkreation

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that lil diagram is kinda what i'm talkin about creating by sanding a 4 inch section of the ski. it would be a slightly thinner section just in front of the boot that would likely flex somewhat more....

and as far as taking the whole topsheet off, i am confused why i'd need to do that? does the integrity of the topsheet provide alot of rigidity or perform some other function? couldnt i just sand thru that small section of it?

and to those of you with the painfully logical advice of just buying flexy skis, thank you, but i'm just having fun with an idea, not actually promoting it as an answer to buying flexy skis or learning to butter on regular skis. lighten up dooders, FUN!

Dec 11 2006 1:29PM

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snarky

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i butter with my PEs all the time, you just gotta throw your weight into it.

Dec 11 2006 1:31PM

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Pigletpen

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mmm the top sheet is there for the purpose of keeping your cores dry, (in this instance) if they get wet, they rot. if they rot, theyre of no use to you because you will die.
you dont want to die do you?
and they didnt sand it down, its actually 3 different peices, im not sure sanding it would do much. youd have to fill the gap from topsheet to core with somethingh that would effectivly offset what you were trying to do in the first place.
I might be wrong about the 3 peices, but then again, Im going to go shred a 22 foot pipe in about 25 minutes.
so really, happy happy!

Dec 11 2006 1:33PM

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hartig

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hahhaa my friend says he cant butter because his skis are too "stiff," but i was buttering on my brother's super stiff old 1080's the other day and some older skis a while ago. i want my invaders back from backcountry.com though.

Dec 11 2006 2:53PM

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