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Nitric Acid has left its mark on me

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jimmychung
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We've been doing a lab in my AP chem class this week involving nitric acid. I spilled some on my hands a couple of times, hardly noticing it. At the most it felt like a little tingle, and I just flushed it with water and didn't worry about it. Now, I have all of this grey marks on my hands. Some are just specks, while others are patches. I can't wash it off, it's literally in my skin. I can cut some away and it's gone then, so it's not any lower than my epidermis. How fucked up is that though? I'm positive it's from the nitric acid. I wonder if it soaked into my bloodstream...own3d. I'll post pics if anyone wants me to.
Dec 9 2006 3:53PM
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wAy2sTeEzY4u
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sue the school.seriously.
Dec 9 2006 3:55PM
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ECGove
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yeah if the teacher never told you to wear gloves or something sue them and by new skis with $
Dec 9 2006 3:57PM
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ajjackson
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Dont worry about it im pretty sure it goes away cause a kid in the chem class next to mine dipped his whole hand in that shit last year and his whole hand was black for like a month but it went away. Im assuming its the same shit because i doubt theres a whole array of things that turn your skin black.
Dec 9 2006 4:10PM
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almostaskier
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wait, he spills it on himself and he should sue the school?

"Pardon me, but i'd like to sue you for me being a dumbass please!"
Dec 9 2006 4:16PM
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ECGove
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if the teacher never told him it would mess up his hand, its the teachers fault
Dec 9 2006 4:17PM
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almostaskier
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what if the teacher thought "hmm, well, my class isn't a bunch of retarded morons... i think they might actually know that nitric acid is bad for your hands in general"

Im sorry, lack of common sense does not mean its the teacher's fault, even IF he hadn't said it.
Dec 9 2006 4:22PM
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ajjackson
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Either way its not really worth the time or effort of making a case about it because it will go away. In the meantime your hand will look fucked up
Dec 9 2006 4:29PM
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Myke
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For not explaining the danger of working with these chemicals. That is a great reason to sue. Now if they told him that it could fuck with him and he should protect himself, well now thats a different reason.

How would you feel if your boss was like carry this bucket into the back and dumb it out. So you carry it out back and dumb it on the ground and it splashes up and hits your skin eating right through it. Reason to sue

If your boss says carry that cleaning fluid out back. Just be carful it will eat through your skin. Not a reason to sue.
Dec 9 2006 4:30PM
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ECGove
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still you'd think it would be smart for the teacher to at least mention that nitric acid is bad for your skin, just in case there actually is a moron in the class
Dec 9 2006 4:30PM
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Skipig25
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I'm pretty sure that sueing the school isn't possible tho for the mistake. At the beginning of most lab classes you sign a paper that says if you fuck up, it's not their fault
Dec 9 2006 4:32PM
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.David.
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Dude.. no big deal. Our chem teacher told us we could draw stuff on ourselves with it... it will turn your skin dark until your skin cells all fall off. i remember we drew big stars on our wrists.. Don't worry about it. What concentration was it, do you remember?
Dec 9 2006 4:33PM
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almostaskier
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The thing that i find amazing is that some of your first reactions is suing. Like, that doesn't happen ANYWHERE else in the world.

At the beginning of every lab, the teacher informs you of dangers, and here in saneworld, beyond that, if you screw up while YOU are manipulating the stuff that you know (if you'd done your homework) is dangerous for you, without gloves, its your own damn fault.

Unless the teacher threw the crap at his face without him knowing what it was and it burned his eyes out, or refused to give him gloves, or was sleeping, then you'd have reason to sue...
Dec 9 2006 4:40PM
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freezed
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In AP chem, knowing about the chemicals you are using is part of the curriculum. You can't be in that class and not know that a strong acid will adversely affect you.

In any case, it'll come off in a few weeks.
Dec 9 2006 4:57PM
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skogenjake
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sure that was the same stuff? im pretty sure that was this silver solution...still it left grey marks on your skin, like tattoos for a few weeks, but i think i know what you are talking about in regards to chemistry. in AP chem they deal with different chemicals maybe
Dec 9 2006 5:01PM
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steezyjibber
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bingo
Dec 9 2006 5:03PM
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da-bling
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wow that sucks man
Dec 9 2006 5:07PM
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jimmychung
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oh yeah, because i'm a total dumbass for accidentally spilling some shit on my hands..?? kid, things drip. most of it came from dripping off of a pipette and onto my fingers. so i'm a dumbass for that? and i have no reason to sue the school, i never  complained about it, it's just a story to tell. and to make things clearer, our teacher doesn't have us sign anything, and she usually does inform us of very dangerous chemicals. so it apparently wasn't dangerous enough to mention, so i'm not questioning it. plus i know what the stuff is, i know it's not exactly the best stuff to get on your skin, but it's not going to kill you. it didn't kill me, just stained, no big deal.

and it was 6M, someone asked.

Dec 9 2006 5:09PM
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PimpDaddySkier
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  i loaded my hands up with silver nitrate, because someone said it doesnt come off for a while, so i made a cool design on my hands but it didnt show up, so i started lathering it on my hands. little did i know it was UV activated so when i walked outside i had nigger hands...hahaha

its comes off if you scrap it with sandpaper for a couple min
Dec 9 2006 5:11PM
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skogenjake
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silver nitrate doesn't equal nitric acid.
Dec 9 2006 5:13PM
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almostaskier
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i was imitating the thought process of the kid i quoted.
Dec 9 2006 5:15PM
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jimmychung
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alright, sorry.
Dec 9 2006 5:19PM
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Jake...
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pics?
Dec 9 2006 5:20PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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Dec 9 2006 5:31PM
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CooksCorner
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Hurry up and die the world doesnt need people like you.
Dec 9 2006 5:39PM
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user098123
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You're retarded...its not like its going to do anything to you. Sure it stains your skin, big deal, it'll be gone in a few days. Thats about it. Tons of things stain your hands, Silver Nitrate, Iodine, all that crap, and its no big deal. And whoever said to sue the teacher? You're retarded, everyone knows full well the risks, especially in AP Chem, and what he spilled on himself is hardly harmful, especially if he washed it off with water.
Dec 9 2006 5:46PM
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PagesHouse
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yeah ive had stains/marks like that from lots of things when i took AP Chem last year and im still alive. dont worry about it.
Dec 9 2006 5:48PM
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garrett.
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pictuuressss
Dec 9 2006 5:52PM
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shagalabagala
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yeah pictures...and seeing that it is an AP chem class, i would guess the teacher wouldnt need to explain about what nitric ACID can do to ur skin
dont sue
Dec 9 2006 6:17PM
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sherpasrock
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well said. i'm sick of hearing stories about people who don't have common sense sueing the shit out of something.

like the lady who spilled hot coffee on her self, and sued McDonald's for millions...and won

or the thief who broke into a house when the family was on vacation and got locked in their garage. he had to survive on dog food for a week until they came home. he then sued them for something rediculous like a faulty garage door opener. and won, even though HE was trying to STEAL from them.

i swear, the lack of common sense will be (or already is) the human race's downfall.
Dec 9 2006 6:18PM
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Mod
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http://www.flinnsci.com/search_MSDS.asp
Dec 9 2006 6:25PM
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KRASHED
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I definatly have to back almostaskier up on this one because if you're dumb enough to not know that ACIDS are bad for you you shouldnt be in that class.


People are just looking for retarded reasons to sue these days.
Dec 9 2006 6:44PM
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jimmychung
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people need to chill the fuck out. i'm not retarded for spilling shit on my hands. and glrunner, shut the fuck up. i said myself that all it did was stain my hands. i'm just sharing something, not complaining about. shit kids. i actually think it might've beeen silver nitrate now, since we used that too. pimpdaddy's story reminded me.
Dec 9 2006 7:10PM
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ECGove
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not all acids are bad, orange juice is full of citric acid
Dec 9 2006 7:12PM
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Lé.Skiing
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well i'm sorry that common sense isnt as common as people'd think.. if you're not told that that acid will leave a grey mark on you how the fuck are you supposed to know cause i'm pretty sure kids now a days dont have telepathy... i know i dont... but yah you gotta be more careful with your word usage... because common sense only applies to you, and saying that is just being ignorant.
Dec 9 2006 7:22PM
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billy092
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im in AP chem too, and i garuntee if you look at your lab sheet your gonna see a warnging in the saftey section or somehwere in the procedure saying that HN03 is a corrosive acid that can damge your skin or is dangerous or something a long those lines.
Dec 9 2006 7:28PM
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jimmychung
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dude i knoooow it was an aaaccideeeent.
Dec 9 2006 7:43PM
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billy092
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yeaj, i know , but people are like sue the taecher, and im like no, fuck that
Dec 9 2006 7:51PM
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jimmychung
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Dec 9 2006 7:52PM
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Lé.Skiing
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that sucks man, but i doubt its permanent... just wait like a couple weeks then judge from there... if its starting to reduce size you'll be fine.. but what i suggest is taking pictures everyday close to the same angle every picture and do stopanimation to see if it shrinks.. its be pretty cool too
Dec 9 2006 7:56PM
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shagalabagala
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google it if  youre worried
Dec 9 2006 7:58PM
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Alexander_Keith
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Nitric acid is nasty, but your lucky you didnt give yourself a dose of a strong base. If you got a base on your hand its faar worse, mostly because it takes hours before you feel anything but your already fucked. It has a similar effect of acid its just less noticable. As well its a lot harder to wash off. kinda like how it takes a lot of water to wash soap off ure skin cause its slippery and leaves residue, well soap is a mild base and strong bases have a similar effect so even a quick handwashing when u know uve spilled some wont do the trick.

In Chem whenever were working with bases our teacher has a spray bottle of vinegar that we have to spray our hands with if we spill base to neutralize it.
Dec 9 2006 7:58PM
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jimmychung
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nah i'm not worried about it. i've been able to hack some off with some fingernail clippers.
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Dec 9 2006 8:01PM
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jimmychung
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yeah same here. nasty stuff, turns your fat into soap doesn't it?
Dec 9 2006 8:02PM
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KRASHED
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I had a mixture of NaCl (Sodium Chloride) and HCl (Hydrochloric Acid) shoot out of a boiling test tube before it had a change to neutralize and it hit me in the eye, scary shit.
Dec 9 2006 8:37PM
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jimmychung
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yeah my friend had some hcl squirt on his face. he had goggles on, luckily, but there was a mark across his face where there was no goggle. scary stuff.
Dec 9 2006 8:43PM
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KRASHED
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I was being cheap and just wearing my eyeglasses (which is allowed) but its still pretty dumb.
Dec 9 2006 8:44PM
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hvgap
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go spill 6M sulfuric acid on your hands, that is a goooood time ;-)
Dec 9 2006 10:15PM
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RudyGarmisch
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I've gotten some Para-formaldehyde on my lip when I was profusing a rat, I spat like crazy into the profusion bucket for a few minutes (Para-formaldehyde is a tissue fixative, it overwhelms your nervous system and can kill muscle really easily). I also got a burn from a really strong (25M) NaOH solution on my hand, but that only lasted about a week. Working with chemicals is fun.
Dec 9 2006 10:30PM
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freezed
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acid plus salt won't neutralize anyways.
Dec 9 2006 11:26PM
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Gretchen.
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this kid in my 8th grade science class took a bet from another kid to drink out of one of those big jug things they keep in the back room and he didnt even look at what it was first and took a big sip and then spit it out on the floor and it completly burned the inside of his mouth and nose and throat and they said if he would have swallowed it it would of disingreted his tubes to his throat and stomach. so we spent all year doing computer simulations...
Dec 9 2006 11:29PM
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