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Is my DIN too low? Pre-releasing while on boxes...

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psychkub
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So I was at Bear and was hitting some boxes and on TWO occasions the ski opposite of the leading ski released at the toe. The only thing I could gather from what happened is that my momentum carried me forward while the friction of the box prevented my ski from following me and ended up releasing. I'm 6'2" 240lbs on Rossi Axial 2 140. I consider myself a pretty aggressive rider, riding Chronic Wide 187s with a boot of 29.5 and the shop set both of my DINs at 8.... which I thought was pretty low. Since I don't want to void the warranty of the shop by messing with the DIN, should I just take them back to be recalibrated, or will they just laugh at me...

I know there was a post about cranking up your DIN like 2 or 3 more than what's normal for park riding... but that sounds kind of sketchy... all you ski techs, what should I do, I love my knees, but at the same time, i don't think my hip can take the abuse from possible pre-releasing while on boxes and rails.
Dec 8 2006 7:12PM
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=nick=
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dude, ur DIN is too low. i ride pretty hard, and at 130 lbs i ride my dins at 8. put em at like 10 or 11.
Dec 8 2006 7:14PM
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psychkub
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^That's what I figured. I mean I understand the physics behind why a larger boot gets a smaller DIN than a smaller boot and all, but with my weight, 8 just seemed too low. I'll try cranking toe to 9 and leaving the heel at 8 since I haven't have any problems with the heel.

Anyone else?
Dec 8 2006 7:31PM
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eyeLiektoSkee
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yeah i would put them up. You weigh 80lbs more than me and we're at the same din
Dec 8 2006 7:32PM
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K2skipunk
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NONONONONONONONONONO

dont just crank em up like from 8 to 10 or 11.  i had problems prereleasing at 6.5 and im 190 and 6'1

now dont go raggin on me cuz my din is too low, but i bumped it up to 7 and it was fine. might bump to 7.5, and i ski really aggressively.

my point is just take a screwdriver with you and bump it up by half steps, wat if u go from 8 - 8.5, and it doesnt work, bump it up to 9.  but wat if u go from 8 - 8.5 and it works fine?

u would have fucked urself up big time, so if u can, just bump up halfs.
Dec 8 2006 7:48PM
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psychkub
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^ Good advice. I'll give it a try.
Dec 8 2006 7:50PM
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Mex_LineJib^a
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it sounds that you have'em set low but why don't you have them checked out at a shop?
Dec 8 2006 7:55PM
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Aenigma
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Make sure your forward pressure is set correctly, then go from there.  When tightening your DIN, just go up in small increments until you don't prerelease anymore.
Dec 8 2006 8:04PM
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eheath
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I'd put your heels at 10-11+ or else you will have a shitty time landing switch on anything bigger than 30ft.
Dec 8 2006 8:16PM
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psychkub
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^heh, I'm no where near that level yet. I'm still learning.
Dec 8 2006 8:28PM
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rockymountainmilitia
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DONT put your heal and toe peices at different dins. thats retarded. if your 240, and 6'2" you ride aggresivley you should really put your din up to 10. I am 190 pounds 6'2" and I always have my din set at 10 for early season, 13 after january. 8 is still a relativley high din number, so maybe you might want to go get your bindings checked out to make sure the spring isnt fucked. if you want to follow somebody said above, just use the tools at your hill and set your bindings at 9 just to try it. if your still pre releasing go to 10.
Dec 8 2006 8:54PM
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BigJew
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I'm 145lbs and 6 feet tall. 10 din is a bit low for me, I've had releases where I didn't even notice any force on my leg. You should crank yours up to at least 10 if not 12. Just do it yourself, it won't void the warranty.
Dec 8 2006 9:16PM
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quebecfreestyler
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it depends on the size of your boots so everyone might be a little different, anyway the new axial bindings are prone to prereleasing a lot. riders had to get some more pressure on the toe piece since there was not enought pressure between the plate boot and toe piece.
Dec 8 2006 10:57PM
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freezed
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that really is not necessarily true. I have had no problems with my DIN at 8 on my p10s landing switch on stuff above 50 ft.
Dec 8 2006 10:59PM
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quebecfreestyler
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p10 didnt prerelease as much as the new axials.
Dec 8 2006 11:03PM
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psychkub
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Well, rather than mess with them myself. I'm going to take them in to the shop I got them mounted and tell them about my woes and see what they say. Thanks for everyone's help.

Dec 8 2006 11:34PM
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Tulley.
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go to AT LEAST 10 if its coming out on boxes like that
Dec 9 2006 9:57AM
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ride_switch
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I have the same bindings, I weigh 165 and my din is at 8, crank those up. My shop set my bindings for me
Dec 9 2006 11:55AM
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dammitmike
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seriously listen to this post. it would be retarded to just crank your dins up 2 or 3 settings flat out. sure you might need your din at 10 or 11 but be smart about it and take it up half a setting at a time. if they keep pre releasing then keep going up but do not skip whole din settings especially if you are just getting started. and make sure to match the heel and the toe dins. do not go for example, 9 in front and 11 in back.
Dec 9 2006 5:56PM
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SlickRick.
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id say just crank it up 1 cause too much and your riskin knee injuries.. and you should probably just go back to the sjop and have them do it
Dec 9 2006 6:18PM
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TechnoPotamus
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alright everyone seriously listen up right now.

i am 6' tall and 155 lbs....i ride real hard just like everybody else.

I overrotated a corked 5 and landed sideways on my knee and my ski didn't release because my din is at like 9 or 10 and i tore my ACL and MCL. that was 3 weeks ago and my season is gone.

So PLEASE be careful with how high you put them, i will never keep mine so high again. be safe guys/girls....i hate being on the sidelines and i know you all would hate it too.
Dec 9 2006 6:21PM
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powfoka
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your forward pressure my be set wrong...get to a shop have them set it to your boot properly if your still popping out turn em up one numerical setting at a time till the problem goes away.....
Dec 9 2006 6:22PM
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SkiMN
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I'm 6'1", 170 on size 29.5 boots with a DIN of 6.5 (PX12 Jibs) and I havent had a problem yet.
Dec 9 2006 9:51PM
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