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My U.S Open ideas....

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dylhole
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I am sure many of you are sick of being forced to sit on a computer, waiting for a deadline to roll around, just for a 50/50 chance of registering for the Open.

Computers freeze, the U.S. Open website sees too much traffic, you get bored, you're not on a computer at registration time, the list goes on... Something needs to change to give talent a chance to surface....

Instead, I propose my "U.S. Open" contest:
Each state with, lets say, 4 ski areas or more qualify. If a skier is truly interested, then that athlete will register for an individual state contest, held within the state, for residents. Every state that qualifies will host a state-wide contest; each will provide a similar slopestyle course that will enable the states' best athletes to prove their worth against each other.

After each state has had their individual contests to determine the states' best 4(or whatever amount of) skiers in each discipline, each states' top athletes will meet in a "U.S. Open" final in some arranged venue. From their, a finals venue will play out as top skiers from every corner compete in hopes of winning.

Now I know the kinks haven't been worked out... What about other countries? Or states that hold a wealth of talent? Or states that don't? My idea is far from a finished product, it's just an idea to get some heads turning since the current system isn't working.

Hope you're all having a good season so far,

Dylan
Dec 6 2006 1:56AM
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snowbladesforlife
Posts: 2033 - Karma: -3
The U.S. Open is just aligning their site with what Copper will be like, shitty.
Dec 6 2006 2:08AM
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spere
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true, there are lots of kinks to work out, but it is a sick idea nonetheless. one major problem i see, aside from the others, is sponsors for all the events, since it would be hard for different companies to sponsor different states and not all the same
Dec 6 2006 2:08AM
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spere
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great attitude, you are probably just pissed because you didn't get in, or you realized you snowblade
Dec 6 2006 2:09AM
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snowbladesforlife
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Or I know that the only thing that Copper does well is suck dick, and they don't even maintain that well. How come the Copper team rides mostly at Breck?
Dec 6 2006 2:22AM
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jksl
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doesn't sound too much different from Vail...
Dec 6 2006 2:35AM
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skier_boy26
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thats what happened with X qualifiers, WSC qualifiers, etc. Its a good idea in some instances, but the US open is pretty global. It would be difficult to make that work. Probably first and foremost is figure out a damn registration process that isn't so shitty. Every year it crashes or is whack for some (albeit this was my first year registering). Universities have thousands register at once. its a tad slow, but it works. It really needs to be improved somehow.
Dec 6 2006 2:35AM
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snowbladesforlife
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At least Vail charges 15 dollars for parking though.
Dec 6 2006 2:40AM
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dozerr
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that would make it the same thing as like USASA and those things. and it probably wouldnt be as big of a deal anymore.
Dec 6 2006 2:04PM
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bpalmer
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that sort of takes away from the "Open" part of it.
Dec 6 2006 2:16PM
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Taydawg197
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The US open of golf is exactly like that. They host qualifying tourneys. This also elimintates people that shouldnt be there. Win a local qualifier to get to the big contest. Depending on where the local contest is, depends on how many people from that contest gets in. More populated areas get to send more riders to the open, less populated ares get less spots. Thats how it should work.
Dec 6 2006 2:44PM
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JaphyRyder
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Thats actually a really good idea.

One problem though is that what makes the U.S. Open such a great comp is that it is truly "open" to anyone. If you have qualifying rounds, etc., it somewhat defeats the purpose. Also, what if some dirty kid lives in Florida or something?

Once again, great idea, and I have no answers to this at all. Just voicing an opinion.
Dec 6 2006 3:13PM
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Taydawg197
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It still is open. Anyone can goto a qualifier. If you live in florida, you travel to a place that has a qualifier. It also creates a larger scale of althletes. More people can try to qualify for it.
Dec 6 2006 3:20PM
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Alkyy
Posts: 2839 - Karma: 149
well, its an open soo anyone should be able to do it, and there are a lot more good skiers in Utah then there are in Ohio
Dec 6 2006 4:05PM
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Ahmets_Brother
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wont work. theres alot more better kids skiing in utah then there are in north carolina. thats not fair to limit the skiers from an area with a large amount of really good skiers.
Dec 6 2006 4:05PM
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Taydawg197
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thats why utah would have the majority of the spots leading to the open and north carolina for example would only have 1 or 2 slots.
Dec 6 2006 4:39PM
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triebby
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i know you said it was by no means a final idea, but idont know if that really could work simply from a logisitical standpoint. great idea in concept but the variables of amount of talent in certain areas, other countries, everything will be damn hard if not impossible to work out. however, if you find a way, let me know.
Dec 6 2006 4:40PM
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dozerr
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hahaha, you can set it up like the presidential elections, where each state gets a certain number of electoral votes and whatnot. different states would get different amounts of people allowed to go. hahahaha that would be a pain in the ass to figure out
Dec 6 2006 4:45PM
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Taydawg197
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well i have no power to change anything so it doesnt really matter. I was just throwin it out there. It would work like the US Open of golf does.
Dec 6 2006 4:50PM
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poofartpee
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us open is kinda gay cause pros usually win and the none pros dont get a bug chance but the years that no names win are awsome
Dec 6 2006 6:10PM
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triebby
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charles gagnier and tj schiller are now pro and are winning lots of events.
Dec 6 2006 6:13PM
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Rez4frederick
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Nice ideas. 

It does seem totally stupid to have a comp wide open for any tom dick and harry with enough money to get there and to have web registration to boot.

The only way I can see how to weed out people is to have a pre US Open with like alot more slots of people who can go, like a few days prior to the actual open (so people out of state dont have to stay to long)  and if you dont make the final cut, you dont go to the real US open.

Your idea is definately good, but seems like it would take to long to get it sorted out (3-4 years) if not more.
Dec 6 2006 6:23PM
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kolekaine
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yeh what u said is called usasa/ussa nationals
Dec 6 2006 6:27PM
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jksl
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that sounds EXACTLY like the qualifying rounds for semis....except saying you should let more people in.
Dec 6 2006 6:53PM
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intifada
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nobody cares about your ideas
Dec 6 2006 6:55PM
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Billiards.
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they should pick a top 10 from one mountain in each state. They should also have a rail jam and a junior division!
Dec 6 2006 6:57PM
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rabbitsteeze
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that sounds like a good system
Dec 6 2006 7:13PM
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freeski1620
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copper does suck balls and snowblades is right, the copper team always rides at breck. copper's park is sketchy in my oppinion. if they were smart they would have moved it to breck. the venue there is ideal. i dont know what who ever sets it up was thinking. i hope that is only a temporary change of location. vail is wayyy better than copper. that is unless a miracle happened and copper figured out how to cut a pipe, shape a jump, build a slope corse, and maintain their park in general.
Dec 6 2006 7:24PM
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K-Thomas
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why don't they just have a cab 10off to see who gets in?
Dec 6 2006 7:33PM
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Ryanvdonk
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why not a cork 180 contest?
Dec 6 2006 7:39PM
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Alkyy
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do people who really suck actually enter? ive never gone and i always figured only decent- good people bothered entering but im starting to wonder...
Dec 6 2006 7:41PM
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Rez4frederick
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I thought of a solution.

Have like a week long competition, where people get cut everyday for either getting hurt or they just dont have the steeze to be pro/am yet cause they didnt win whatever judged competition there is that day.  There should be jibbing/steeps/powder/moguls/cliffs in the daily courses and each person has to score in the top to advance to the next day.  If they dont have it in them, then they just dont that year.  They can try again.  There should be  limited amount of slots still, but much higher than there is now.  Besides alot of people will be sent home and only the really consistent people will survive to the end.

I know this is kind of a short version of my idea, but i think it could work awesome ways in bringing out new talent that is legit.

Dec 6 2006 11:45PM
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R.Fahey
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Yeah..... i didn't read all of those, but it should just be regional rather than State. East Coast, Midwest, Rocky Mtn, West coast.
Dec 6 2006 11:47PM
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MskiW
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pretty good idea i like it but it would be hard to get so many people into one mountain for a week for a comp
Dec 6 2006 11:50PM
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dbag37
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I don't see why they don't just do it like the U.S Open in golf. Pros get sponser's exemptions, and then anybody else who wants to can get in to a huge bracketish system to determine the remaining spots. All they have to do is increase the price a little bit so only people who actually think they have a legit shot at competing will enter. I didn't really read the whole thread so sorry if this was mentioned before.
Dec 6 2006 11:50PM
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snowbladesforlife
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Bracketing wouldn't work because there is an unquantifiable number of people better in summit county/slc than most states in the east coast/south/iowa. In summation, fuck Iowa, what a waste of a star on the flag.
Dec 7 2006 12:49AM
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indatrenches
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90% of the athletes who enter don't have a chance in hell. save your money and buy a sled or take a trip to a way better ski resort.
Dec 7 2006 3:44AM
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Armanzoid
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Do what every other great sport does for the championship. A tournament.

In any state with a somewhat respectable mountain(Obviously you can't do it in places like Florida) you hold a tournament. Top 2 or 3 from each go to the main US Open.

For money reasons, and to garner the right sponsors and the right interest you cant do it in every state. For the most part it would probably be the states in the northern half of America. You have one tournament per state it would make it much more important, and you keep it in the same exact format as the US Open.
Dec 7 2006 8:23AM
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jwhyte
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50/50 chance?
i registered over 24 hours after it opened
and i got into superpipe it wasn't even full
Dec 7 2006 8:35AM
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