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Soft...Hard...What the hell is really the difference?

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jesus041
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Heres the deal. I want new skis, again. I have a pair of unused Skogens that I am thinking about selling because some guy just got 330 bucks for a pair on ebay. I ride the old 1080s and I am really breaking them in. They are becoming softer and softer each day it seems, and I am kind of liking it.
I know with a harder, stiffer ski it controls better at high speeds. But how would a soft ski compare if it were used primarily in the park? I mean is there much of a difference from a soft ski to a stiff ski? If not I would just stick with the stiff ones then I could go all mountain. And how stiff (or soft) are the Skogens?...

Jan 28 2002 5:24PM
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jesus041
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Also I have been seriously considering the 720's. I am begining to think softer is the way to go. But I could be horribly wrong and I would be left unsatisfied with my 400-500 dollar purchase.
Jan 28 2002 5:27PM
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chrismo
Posts: 65 - Karma: 14
A softer ski is usually associated with novice to intermediate skiers. However, twintip skis are not like other skis and a lot of people think softer is better. You have to try a harder ski in order to make the comparison. Go demo the Volkl V or something like that. Lines make a pretty soft ski.
Jan 28 2002 6:26PM
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Co-Flow
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ok i have enemy's and skogans...I like the skogans in the park because they are really light and good for spinning/flipping. I have found that the tails are really soft and sometimes if you go too big it can get messy. You need to land fairly centered on your feet because the tails will give and you'll fall on you ass. The enemy's are a much stiffer ski and kick ass for going really big, they are a little heavier and arent as good for spinning...ect. Overall i like the skogans they are a decent ski and i guess it really depends on how much you ski park and what type of skier you are. I hope that helped


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Jan 28 2002 6:28PM
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AppSkier
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there is no difference i think. i use one of my friends skogens once in a while and there is no difference from my freezones.


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Jan 28 2002 7:33PM
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Ski_Instructor_Mike
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if you think there is no difference then it doesn't matter. 720s are good for rails and jibbing. But if you actually like to ski steeps and carve some turns then you'll notice a severe lag on the pop out of turns.

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Jan 28 2002 7:43PM
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TAK
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I think that in the park, stiffer tips and tails will help you not wipe your face/ass if your a little to far forward (switch) or backwar (reg). With soft ski, if you land on your tails, you're prolly goni' down (in theory). But, with stiffness come wieght. You choise.

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Jan 28 2002 7:47PM
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tremblantripper
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ive got the 720's and they are definetly a soft ski, i find that because they are so soft i dont really get that much of a pop off jumps, and the shallow tail sucks too, cuz you have to watch out when landin fakie, but a good ski for jibbin and park


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Jan 28 2002 8:02PM
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Ski_Instructor_Mike
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oh yeah I forgot about the tails..... just stay away from powder I tell ya.

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Jan 28 2002 8:10PM
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Co-Flow
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Hmmm yes the skogans suck in the powder..a good ski to jib around in but not for big airs or the backcountry


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Jan 28 2002 8:11PM
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nipe
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i havent really had a problem with softness from my 1080s.. but we're not skiing bella coola, here


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Jan 28 2002 8:20PM
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Dspin900
Posts: 3512 - Karma: 89
I'd just go with somethin in between like concepts or new 1080s

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Jan 28 2002 8:25PM
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sirjibsalot
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yeah my skis are as stiff as an erect penis.
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Jan 29 2002 12:24AM
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ten80
Posts: 1223 - Karma: 31
HUGE difference. I had 1080's, concepts, and Machete Mct's (stiffest twin ever). I liked the Mct's stiffness best, I like going huge. for small jumps, the 1080 was fine but for big (35+ft ) tables, a super stiff ski will keep you off your behind when you land.
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Jan 29 2002 12:43AM
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westcoaststyle
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i got skogens and theyre pretty soft compared to my bros concepts
Jan 29 2002 2:02AM
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