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Are rails that bad for my skis?

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eyeLiektoSkee
Posts: 827 - Karma: 12
I just bought a new pair of Armada Arvs, and it ran me a thousand bucks with bindings. I did rails on my old skis (olddd head mad trix) and they seemed to take it just fine, but wondering, just how bad are rails on your edges and stuff. Ive heard some horror stories, but also seen park rats with same skis for 3 years. So is it safe to do rails lots or should i save a couple paychecks and buy some used skis for rails/rocks?
Nov 7 2006 10:42PM
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mattster
Posts: 4120 - Karma: 41
rails arent bad for your skis
Nov 7 2006 10:45PM
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skierchild
Posts: 1743 - Karma: 35
rails are good for you skis.
Nov 7 2006 10:48PM
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rynmartn
Posts: 2697 - Karma: 21
rails really aren't that bad for skis. you'll get worse damage skiing pow when u hit a hidden rock
Nov 7 2006 10:48PM
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Ski_Unit_19
Posts: 8188 - Karma: 38
is there really such thing as good and bad?
Nov 7 2006 10:50PM
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skierchild
Posts: 1743 - Karma: 35
all i did last season was do rails. and my edges are gone.but now i dont have to worry about catching a edge
Nov 7 2006 10:51PM
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mattster
Posts: 4120 - Karma: 41
thats what i meant
Nov 7 2006 10:52PM
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BLKOUT
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they're bad for your edges
Nov 7 2006 10:53PM
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jmason
Posts: 1595 - Karma: 136
it all depends on how you hit them and how often you hit them. earlier somebody said that you'd do more damage hitting a rock - not necessarily. I hit a rock last season and took a gouge outa my base but a bita peetex fixed that. i hit rails all last season and now i have no edge and whenever i hit ice patches my skis start going sideways. so it all depends on how you look at it. would you rather have holes in your skis or would you rather not be able to turn?
Nov 7 2006 10:57PM
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invaderskier36
Posts: 6192 - Karma: 41
i know alot of people including myself have our main skis for all/mtn and jumps and have a pair of rail skis if your worried just use ur heads or uy a cheap pair os skis. Im not saying go out and buy sum t-halls just for rails try to get an older pair on here and your good 2 go
Nov 7 2006 11:00PM
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eyeLiektoSkee
Posts: 827 - Karma: 12
yeah a buddy of mine works at a ski shop and one of the dudes there is selling some scratches from a couple years back. Theyre in good shape and theyre $380 with bindings. Good deal or should i look elsewhere?
Nov 7 2006 11:02PM
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MadSteezin
Posts: 4572 - Karma: 936
thts why you take your skis to the place you get your skis tuned/waxed and have them round the edges
Nov 7 2006 11:03PM
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SkiMN
Posts: 4005 - Karma: 38
If you hit a lot of rails, you will notice it on your skis. For the most part, with few exceptions, you wont notice any major damage due entirely to rails. You will dull your edges, and you will have scratches on your bases, etc etc. You most likely arent going to rip your skis to shreds, especially Armadas.
Nov 7 2006 11:03PM
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Jeff_Lo
Posts: 5809 - Karma: 263
you shouldnt even worry about rails, you spent way to much money on those
Nov 7 2006 11:04PM
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$tezzyStu
Posts: 1139 - Karma: 11
if you round the edges before you start hitting stuff you'll be fine. most edges get messed up from people landing on rails wrong, or not cleaning them, the rails that is.
Nov 7 2006 11:04PM
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*rkp*
Posts: 8198 - Karma: 258
rails actually add edges to your skis and they make them stronger.
Nov 7 2006 11:06PM
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eyeLiektoSkee
Posts: 827 - Karma: 12
when you guys say round the edges, do you just get them rounded underfoot pretty much, or do you do the whole thing and how much of a difference does it make when youre not skiing rails
Nov 7 2006 11:06PM
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IrideWI
Posts: 2882 - Karma: 316
yea so they arent baf
Nov 7 2006 11:07PM
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pat_0101
Posts: 177 - Karma: 11
Just round them where the rail goes, cause if you round the whole thing, there is nothing to make you turn.
Nov 7 2006 11:14PM
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eyeLiektoSkee
Posts: 827 - Karma: 12
Of course im talking Canadian dollars- 700 for skis, and 260 for bindings
Nov 7 2006 11:30PM
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garrett.
Posts: 9304 - Karma: 3,670
well u should be fine since from what ive heard from the people who ski arv's the edges are razor sharp and indestructable
Nov 7 2006 11:39PM
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pussyfooter.
Posts: 331 - Karma: 7
1000 bucks for arvs and bindings, damn.

And they are bad for you skis, example(done in chronological order with my ar5s):
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First picture is from beginning of last season, and last pic is from about three weeks ago. Before the first pic they were fine for 1 season.
Nov 7 2006 11:47PM
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Swick825
Posts: 1798 - Karma: 11
if i were you id be more worried about how bad you got ripped off on those arvs.
Nov 8 2006 12:07AM
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Prorider2themax
Posts: 494 - Karma: 11
skis are made to ride on metal not snow bra
Nov 8 2006 12:08AM
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freeski1620
Posts: 5670 - Karma: 1,718
yeah, i got arv's with fkas 155's for 650. you got jewed.
Nov 8 2006 1:38AM
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WONTON
Posts: 6951 - Karma: 55
haha damn arvs for 1000 w/ bindings? what u buy it on like...opposite day or smthing?
Nov 8 2006 1:52AM
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SkierX
Posts: 16253 - Karma: 538
Yeah, you got ripped off hard, $700 for the skis?
Nov 8 2006 1:53AM
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SkierX
Posts: 16253 - Karma: 538
Ouch. Damn. After checking out D-Structure, you canadians get rippedoff on ski shit...
Nov 8 2006 1:59AM
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Tclif
Posts: 1559 - Karma: 19
my advice, own a pair of park skis, and a seperate pair of all mtn/bc skis. skis to actually ski on and skis for park.
Nov 8 2006 2:03AM
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The_Oakley_Kid
Posts: 3128 - Karma: 179
i have destroyed every pair of skis i have ever own on rails. So no, you dno't need rail skis, thats gay and shows you are rich. ghetto kids rock the same skis every year no matter how crappy they are becasue they are koooool
Nov 8 2006 11:28PM
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nate-layton
Posts: 115 - Karma: 10
ya u notice the scratches but i dont notice that it effects me much
Nov 8 2006 11:32PM
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DeucesStreetwear
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haha this kid knows whats up..word
Nov 8 2006 11:37PM
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TheQuailman
Posts: 7382 - Karma: 152
they dull your edges but you can always get those tuned up. it really depends on what your skiing. i hit all park all year on the east coast and for christmas and spring vacation i go ski canadian pow so for those to weeks i get em tuned
Nov 10 2006 6:05PM
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Grimace.
Posts: 8345 - Karma: 25
how can you work in a shop and still have topay $1000 for skis and bindings?
Nov 10 2006 6:15PM
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Dan-Man
Posts: 7488 - Karma: 3,622
u spent 1000 darrars!!!!! u got pwned rails r terrible for skis but there fun thats why u don't use 1000 darrar skis on rails like 300 dollar skis r good
Nov 10 2006 7:07PM
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bigwhite.steeze
Posts: 8227 - Karma: 1,032
rails dont help they damage a little but not as much as so called skiing pros say they do that have never tried a rail
Nov 10 2006 7:21PM
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chrismoJBEATS
Posts: 5898 - Karma: 44
if u didnt have a 3rd grade reading level u could see that a buddy of his does./.../...
Nov 10 2006 7:21PM
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skiEER
Posts: 4089 - Karma: 79

it depends on the ski but rails are not a good idea for $1000 skis or on skis you want to be able to hold an edge with

Nov 10 2006 8:11PM
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LineAddiction9
Posts: 616 - Karma: 12
If You aren't a real skier you won't hit rails its just part of our sport!!! Also I you Have durable skis It won't be a problem buy NINTHWARDS!!!!!!! Or I have a pair of Line Chronics and they work well also!!!
Nov 10 2006 8:17PM
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STACKS
Posts: 1938 - Karma: 42
it really isn't that bad plus its fun sliding rails so you should just go for it
Nov 10 2006 8:19PM
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CoachG
Posts: 2546 - Karma: 448
yea dont worry about it, just have fun and if your skiis get fucked up oh well, its part of skiing and the price you pay for having fun in the park.
Nov 10 2006 8:34PM
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slimbruddah
Posts: 2611 - Karma: 25
that's how im goign to be rollin this season. I got a pair of old dynastar candides i got for free to thrash. They'll be good. they're missing about 2 inches of the edge under the foot... but they'll work.
im just going to use my troubles for everything else.
Nov 10 2006 11:55PM
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JrHondo
Posts: 74 - Karma: 18
They are bad for your edges, really bad
Nov 11 2006 6:25PM
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skimanskimanskim
Posts: 1515 - Karma: 1,715
your fat so the edges fall of easier casue of the pressure on the rail
Nov 11 2006 7:27PM
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bp.lando
Posts: 9297 - Karma: 1,495
hey may be have bough them in candain dollars, therefore being less in american dollars
Nov 11 2006 7:31PM
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bp.lando
Posts: 9297 - Karma: 1,495
ahha i cant say how much i got mine for, or ill get "killed"
Nov 11 2006 7:32PM
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chapz
Posts: 10182 - Karma: 66
i think if you spin on rails and land hard on your edges they will fuck up, but just going on rails normally shouldnt do anything
Nov 11 2006 7:36PM
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drshmee
Posts: 168 - Karma: 10
i think they should make like a ski kinda like burtons snowboard design with out an edge in the center for like urban, all our edges are way detuned anyways why we need them
Nov 11 2006 7:53PM
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bobtheskier05
Posts: 485 - Karma: 20
they can scratch them some people use a old pair just for rails
Nov 11 2006 8:04PM
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[~_~]
Posts: 20239 - Karma: 1,273
It depends on the ski. K2s and Heads are the most bombproof ski, so those should be fine. I have been hitting rails on my K2 Fujatives for 3 years now, and they're just fine. no cracks, nothing.

I heard Armadas edges break really easily, and I know Dynastars definately break, although they added that new reinforced sidewall thing, so Im not sure if the new ones hold up so well.
Nov 11 2006 8:11PM
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4frntSkier
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if you do rails it doesnt even matter
Nov 11 2006 8:23PM
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