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Ar6/mynx/karma for girl?

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*steph*
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hey all... new to posting, but been reading newschoolers forever. i'm looking for some help on choosing new skis for this season. i'm about 5'6" 115 lbs, ski 85% all mountain 15% park. so basically, i'm looking to get some twins that will be great for all mountain. i ski mostly east coast since i go to college in boston, but i like to take a couple trips out west each year. here's what i'm deciding between:

166 armada ar6
166 salomon mynx - i think identical to foil but women's graphic
169 volkl karma

i've been skiing the original 160 ar5 which i find way too tiny and kinda noodley (but maybe just because they feel small) and the 05 175 arv (which i really like but realistically is pretty massive for me).

any input or other suggestions would be great, thanks!
Nov 7 2006 4:12PM
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*steph*
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can also throw the thall in there maybe because one shop told me that it's redesigned this year and is actually better all mountain than the ar6 ... sounded weird to me though
Nov 7 2006 7:06PM
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*steph*
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bump.. (sorry to push it but my shop has a special 20% off sale tomorrow night so i'm hoping to decide by then)
Nov 7 2006 11:14PM
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Jr-o-c
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if you found the ar5 too soft then you will definetly find the salomon too soft. on the other hand, i would think for someone your size and your strength the karma would be too stiff and hard to butter etc. for you. the ar6 on the other hand would be a great choice or even the women ski from line that i forgot the name but is exactly what u are loooking for.
Nov 7 2006 11:20PM
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freeski1620
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go with the 171 ar6. there way better than the original ar5's. there a fun poppy ski. also they are going to hold up better than the other skis you have mentioned

dont go salomon. the core in that ski is only degisined to last 15-20 days.

karma's are a dead ski i think. theres nothing special to it. it is my least favorite twin i have ever ridden.

if you want me to go deeper into any of them say so. also, what binding are you going to go with?
Nov 7 2006 11:32PM
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freeski1620
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the guy above me also brings up a good point, the arw, the armada womens ski is a little softer than the ar6 with the same layout. but if you ski with a lot of power go with the ar6.
Nov 7 2006 11:34PM
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titsLOL
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the thall is also just a softer ar6, the only difference really is that it uses what armada calls the ar2 core instead of the ar1 that's in the ar6, it just has a two strips of dense wood on the outsides, and the ar6 has another strip of the denser wood in the middle to make it stiffer. So thalls are probably a similar ski to the arw, I'd probably pick between those two depending on which is cheaper. At 115 some foils would be a sick all mountain ski if I were you I'd go with those.
Nov 7 2006 11:43PM
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*steph*
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thanks guys

freeski1620 - have a pair of look px12's but i could also sell those to a friend and just use a pair of bindings off one of my other skis and sell just the ski. if i did that it would be a salomon s810 or a salomon s912

also, what about the scratch girl bc in a 171? would that be too fat for groomers at 124-94-117? i mean i love the occassional pow days i get but they are rare.
Nov 7 2006 11:45PM
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invaderskier36
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ill take the arv's if you dont want them :)
Nov 7 2006 11:47PM
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*steph*
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pm'd :)
Nov 7 2006 11:55PM
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*steph*
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i prolly wouldn't say i ski with a ton of power, but i think i tend to like skis on the stiffer side. like kind of afraid that flexier park skis wouldn't hold an edge as well on ice or plow through crud as steadily.

what you said about the foam core and the salomons - i thought that the foil was redesigned and that wasn't the case anymore. am i mistaken? like the mynx-essentially foil was kinda appealing to me because of what i heard about it all mountain-wise and the lively feel and sidecut..hmm
Nov 8 2006 12:15AM
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freeski1620
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do you slide a lot of rails? cause if you ride a lot of all mountian and don't slide rails, the pipe cleaner is bomb as shit. thats what i have this year and im super stoked on em!
Nov 8 2006 12:22AM
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*steph*
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no i don't.. i have a bad bad history of concussions from playing ice hockey when i was younger and a couple biking accidents so i've always been afraid that slamming my head onto a rail could be kinda deadly for me. i mean i want to learn really badly this winter, but maybe i can keep my 160 ar5s for that.

how much did you get them for though? the shop with the sale doesn't carry them, so i'm afraid they might be out of my price range.
Nov 8 2006 12:28AM
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freeski1620
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they retail for 6. there pricey cause they have a atomic world cup race base on them. they haul ass like a mofo. but if your shop doesen't have them the ar6 is still a very solid choice. one of my best friends who is a chick just got 171 ar6's with scratch 140's yesterday. get em mounted center though, youll love em that way, i ski about 50 50 and i love my skis center mounted way way better! :)
Nov 8 2006 12:33AM
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*steph*
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the celebrity or the shadow?
Nov 8 2006 12:58AM
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freeski1620
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no, just no, please. line is no buneo.
Nov 8 2006 12:59AM
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dammitmike
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does your shop carry the scratch fs wrs? the womens BC might be pretty soft because it just uses a wood core. the new fs's are fairly stiff and i think for your weight a 168 will rock all mountain and definitly kill it in the park.
Nov 8 2006 1:00AM
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*steph*
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ah damn, that sounds hott but yeah, i don't think i could swing that haha... so i'll definitely look out for the ar6's/arw's but i'm a bit hesitant to dismiss the foil completely. bodaburg said "At 115 some foils would be a sick all mountain ski if I were you I'd go with those. " like what you said about the core giving out - would that still be the case even at my weight?

sorry to ask so many questions, but thanks for all your answers, you've been really helpful
Nov 8 2006 1:02AM
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*steph*
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scratch fs wrs with burn marks, not that brown scratch girl fs, right? i think it does have both. hmm that's a good thought, i never thought of that really because maybe the chick silouette and stuff but it's totally not that a big deal
Nov 8 2006 1:08AM
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freeski1620
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if you ride them hard, yes. my mom just turned 50 and has them and hers are starting to die and she skied 27 days last season.
Nov 8 2006 1:13AM
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*steph*
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damn that's impressive. props to your mom.
Nov 8 2006 1:23AM
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freeski1620
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yeah, shes tight, she acts like a kid, she has an all pink oakley set up with the pink and white bad lt. and the pink and white joysticks. my dad has phill b. pro models to. he isnt steezzy like my mom though. he can kinda ski backwards though. lol.
Nov 8 2006 1:30AM
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*steph*
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that's sick. sounds like your whole family is rippin it up with style. i wish my parents ski. i've tried to talk them into it but my the one time my dad went skiing, he went in college to some dinky little hill and they took him to the top and he bee-lined into a tree. my brother's this big football player/sick lax goalie/hockey player and he's a little wuss at heart and isn't a fan of the ski lifts
Nov 8 2006 1:43AM
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freeski1620
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i just messaged you.
Nov 8 2006 1:50AM
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dammitmike
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yeah the ones with the burn marks. they have the thc 2 core which should be a good bit stiffer than the wood core that is in both the womens scratches and the scratch sprayers(very soft).
Nov 8 2006 8:39AM
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*steph*
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thanks, i'll definitely check those out tonight as well
Nov 8 2006 12:17PM
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other1
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Friend of mine picked up the '06 Karma's last year in a 169 and loved 'em compared to her '04 AR5's (black w/green logo?) She is your height and weighs a little more. She rides mostly in Tahoe. I would say she is in the park about 20% of the time working on 180's and 3's. No rails. She loved the Karma's for the heavy Seirra Cement pow days and the spring skiing sessions as well. Plus, she was able to rail 'em just fine on groomers. I would def. check these skis out.
Nov 8 2006 12:50PM
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