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ICERAIR WAS AWESOME!

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*shidasha*
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You little haters. I had an awesome time on that jump. Yeah it was unsafe. yeah it was sketchy! But it was rad and was a huge step forward in exposing our sport to a different crowd! I hope more similar events sprout from this one! There was also a HUGE turnout! thousands and thousands of spectators! almost filling the whole arena! So give Icerair a break. It's hard being the first to try something new. let's hope it's much safer and better executed next year but you have to admit it was sick!

stop hatin.
Nov 6 2006 12:24PM
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TheSnowLife
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definitely a good time!

check out pics at http://www.TheSnowLIfe.com
Nov 6 2006 12:32PM
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freeski1620
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people almost died. that is not awesome. no ones safety should be put at risk no matter what.
Nov 6 2006 12:32PM
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*shidasha*
Posts: 203 - Karma: 15
our sport is dangerous. people new the risk they were taking and did it anyways. Yeah it should have been safer but anyone could have walked away if they wanted to. no one was forcing anyone to hit the jump. in fact they were encouraged not to hit it if they were too sketched.
Nov 6 2006 12:43PM
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freeski1620
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well, watch the video and tell me that it was a good idea. kaya is all jacked to shit now, and if it werent for that net a few people would be dead. also, did you see how many people were smashing into the lip on the landing. there shouldnt be a lip on the landing of a jump.
Nov 6 2006 12:46PM
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stinkypoodangle
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dude chill. like said before nobody was making them hit it. They knew the risks and hit it anyways. It was a little sketch, but not certain death like you make it sound. A lot of things are pretty bad ideas in skiing, mike wilson's gap that he cases?
Nov 6 2006 12:56PM
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bob_dole
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eh shidasha, you back yet? i have to let you know that you stole both brent and i's hearts on that corker 3 of yours....plus your haircut looked freaking rad on the internet!
Nov 6 2006 12:56PM
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C.J.
Posts: 5460 - Karma: 72
Finaly someone speaking some sense about icer. It was bad ass. Like hucking a double back flip over a 100 Feet of exposure is not dangerous? Way to go girl tell them NS haters that were not even there.
Nov 6 2006 1:13PM
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*DrewT*
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ya and I don't think anybody said that was good idea. Kinda like booters ball this year. To me skiing shouldn't involve needlessly risking your life when there's tons of precautions that can be taken. BC stuff is different let's not get into that. There's no reason for stuff like that. People are gonna start dying doing park features soon. Ya I guess if you wanna risk that then go ahead but really that's just stupid, ski for fun not to impress other people
Nov 6 2006 1:13PM
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C.J.
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^your not a true skier if you think negative like that. Of course theres is a risk, but the bigger the risk the bigger the reward.
Nov 6 2006 1:15PM
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*Nefarious*
Posts: 1072 - Karma: 4,208
that's what makes sports like skiing and snowboarding what they are! the "death-defying" antics of what we do. it is badass. how could anyone ever criticize an action-sports event for being too dangerous? seriously...
Nov 6 2006 1:32PM
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i+am+ghetto
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word..
example tanner: every hater gets a reply "he hit chad switch u fag...." but he broke both ankles on that jump....
thats the risk they take every day..
Nov 6 2006 1:33PM
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bob_dole
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anyone who thinks "skiing shouldnt involve needless risk" should logg off right now, go to your ski movie collection, and burn it all...go ahead and burn the magazines then as well, becuase thats what people have to do to make you like their segments or adds.
Nov 6 2006 1:53PM
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themanski
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The setup may not have been the safest, but I'm fairly sure the riders had the option of not hitting it. And as for Kaya, I think she needs a few more years of experience. She is entering a whole new world of risk with somewhat primitive skills.
Nov 6 2006 2:11PM
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RRhighrider
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yes the jump was sketchy but the event was fun and defeniatly got good exposure foe skiing. it was bad planning to have the women go first when the snow was sticky. i was sad to see the women stop hitting it but it was really cool to watch tony hawk skate too.
Nov 6 2006 2:12PM
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papasteeze
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word.........
Nov 6 2006 3:02PM
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skier_boy26
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sorry, but cool idea, badly done. it stretches beyond the jump as well, but there is a whole thread about that.

would i have hit it given the chance? yes. did others do the same? yea. still, that doesnt make this event rad. it was rediculous. could have been much better. way too much negelegence on the organizers' part
Nov 6 2006 3:06PM
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skiierman
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Stop being a pussy. What's more fun than risking your life? Nothing, that's what.
Nov 6 2006 3:09PM
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Rbamf
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To those of you who think icer air was "too dangerous," where do you think skiing would be without danger?

Skiing would be about as cool as a rollercoaster. everyone would be able to do it, and everyone would be just as good as everyone else.

our sport is about pushing the limits of what is humanly possible; doing things that make people gape, things that other people consider to be impossible.

So, props to everyone taking risks and throwing down at icer air. You guys rock.

And, to all the haters, you're nothin but gapers.
Nov 6 2006 3:09PM
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MHW
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people almost died. that is not awesome. no ones safety should be put at risk no matter what.

you have to ask yourself what sport you participate in. no one was forced to jump. you don't like it, don't hit it. sketchy shit is what its all about.
Nov 6 2006 3:11PM
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skier_boy26
Posts: 11295 - Karma: 502
god damn you are brainless. there is a distinct line between pushing it and neglect, and ill thought.

that jump was tiny for most people, but the setup givin made it had unecessary shit. Really, that could have been easily 10x better

Nov 6 2006 3:14PM
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freestyle_kyle
Posts: 2620 - Karma: 164
wow i feel like a newb but where's the video?
Nov 6 2006 3:15PM
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4frntSkier
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it looked ill
howd people almost die
Nov 6 2006 3:20PM
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freestyle_kyle
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the saftey net was a last minute addition, and people fell into it. so if they didnt decide to put it up, they prbly wouldve died
Nov 6 2006 3:23PM
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MLB
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look, how about this. Yes this is a dangerious sport......but that does not mean there can't be a limit of safety. Look at that SUPER HUGE jump that was build by red bull, and was posted on here a little while ago. That thing was fucking massive, but look how long the landing was. It was built by people who did the math, and took the time to build the jump proper. Your a pro, what kind of jump do you do you best tricks on? A jump that all the other pros are hitting like butter, and you know that is built right, or a jump that is built like a piece of shit where people almost die. Ask derek sprong wether he likes safe jumps or not. There is no excuse for this shit to happen ANYWHERE. You guys are professtionals, and you guys deserve jumps by are built by people who know. At the speeds/heights/and tricks that you guys do, a bad jump could mean the difference between life or death. Soo...that was my little rant.
Nov 6 2006 4:32PM
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stylefree
Posts: 233 - Karma: 10
Yeah that cork 3 was fn sweet. I was trying to figure out who that was.
Nov 6 2006 4:44PM
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skiierman
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I'm pretty sure if they didn't put the net up, none of the athletes would have competed.
Nov 6 2006 5:02PM
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robbieA
Posts: 1371 - Karma: 30
wheres the video?
Nov 6 2006 5:04PM
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~PaRkEr~
Posts: 117 - Karma: 19
hell yeah shidasha, ton's of fun. it was totally up to the riders if you wanted to compete, like she said. they did stop the girls after one of them flew into the net, but it was a pretty easy jump, small, speed was a bit of an issue, and yeah, the landing was sketch on the sides. good times though.
Nov 6 2006 7:17PM
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pat_0101
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http://www.kron.com/global/video/popup/pop_player.asp?ClipID1=1047217&h1=Icer%20Air%202006%20Part%201%20of%207&vt1=v&at1=Entertainment&d1=294767&LaunchPageAdTag=News&activePane=info&playerVersion=1&hostPageUrl=http%3A//www.kron.com/Global/SearchResults.asp%3Fqu%3Dicer+air&rnd=9554434
Nov 6 2006 8:07PM
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JahSpriggs
Posts: 542 - Karma: 3,956
I agree it was sick, sketchy yes, but if you didnt want to hit it, then you didnt have to. I didnt have a problem with hitting it, and it was in the GIANTS STADIUM ...........Sick

San Fran is dope
Nov 6 2006 8:26PM
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McGill-X
Posts: 561 - Karma: 53
shit look like shit, the inrun looked so awkward...definately could have done a better job with all that sponsor moola
Nov 6 2006 8:37PM
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ineedarealname
Posts: 2658 - Karma: 20
stop skiing, your life is at risk you big pussy.
Nov 6 2006 8:39PM
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Prorider2themax
Posts: 494 - Karma: 11
people not only almost die but they do die in car crashes every day... everybodies still driving
Nov 6 2006 9:01PM
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*DrewT*
Posts: 7768 - Karma: 481
ok I typed this out then read through it and would like to point out that I exagerated my opinions on this quite a bit so keep that in mind when and if you read this.


ya I agree that there is always a risk involved when your skiing I understand that better than most of the people talking shit on me. the thing is the Icer Air jump wasn't a good, big or impressive jump it was total shit with more rist than chads gap. Chads gap is gnarly as hell and people made it as safe as possible for tanner. I didn't say people shouldn't take risks I said they shouldn't take unnecessary risks. Icer Air was retarted in my opinion aside from the partying and the publicity you're all so obsessed about. Booters ball... why would you want to hit a jump at 91 MPH? It's not even like they had more airtime than on another jump infact I didn't even think they where in the air that long at all. Why not hit jumps that you can do stylie tricks off of instead of ripping apart your heart. It was cool to watch but when Derek hit that wall it was a real wake up call. He almost died, he didn't almost get paralyzed or even brain damage, he almost died. Now at least booters ball had more meaning to it than this did.

When people are out in the BC there's always the risk of avalanches and stuff but they do everythign they can to keep themselves safe, probes, beacons etc... I know there's always a risk, not trying to go off on a tangent here but watching my sister ski when I was growing up let me know that. Broken leg, dislocated shoulder (about 15 times), Broken collar bone, broken shoulder blade, broken ribs, Broken and dislocated both pelvises. She can't ski hard anymore due to her hips but we're lucky she can even stand let alone strap on some skis. Now I'm almost the same age as she was when she did her hips and I've gotten away with nothing but 3 concussions.

Anyways what I'm getting at is there is always a risk, but there comes a point when you have decide what risks are worth taking and others aren't. I would hit chads gap given the opportunity as long as it was setup well and I knew what speed to take, I wouldn't have risked it on the icer air jump though. The fence ended with a 30 foot drop to flat ground off the side with cars and stuff parked there, still possible to miss the net, or get hurt landing on your head in the net. The risks may not really be any worse than Chads gap but the reward is a hundred times more on chads gap. I just don't see a reason for that jump.



Sorry for the rant but I felt the need to say that
Nov 6 2006 9:18PM
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00000000
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It's sad seeing the attitude of some kids on this site, it just shows you that more and more people will be taking stupid risks without thinking about and understanding the consequences.
Nov 6 2006 9:47PM
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french_fry
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Yeah seriously, the point is that her injury could have been avoided without much trouble and slightly more precautions. It's like if car manufacturers stopped making seat belts, the risk stupidly increases...
Nov 6 2006 10:08PM
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poofartpee
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i found the vid on freeskier boring
Nov 6 2006 11:27PM
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skiierman
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Damned straight.
Nov 7 2006 9:02AM
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quebecfreestyler
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taking risk skiing is one thing and organising a ski comp on a gettho set up is another thing.
Geez european makes scafolding jumps that arent as dumb and dangerous looking.

It's ok to take risk for yourself but building something that implies risk for other people isnt right. If you build something, why not do it correctly and making it as safe as possible.

If i wanna build a getho jump it's ok but I should build it that getthofor other people to use it.
Nov 7 2006 9:13AM
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FUUUCK
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you cant deny theres a lot of pressure on the atheletes to hit the jump though.
Nov 7 2006 10:11AM
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FUUUCK
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WORD, i agree with everything you said
Nov 7 2006 10:13AM
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killa_moves
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I was siked to see pep and benchetler both do 9's. I didn't know they did those...
Nov 8 2006 12:17PM
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Paul-o-Rama
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thats what teh net was for
Nov 8 2006 2:02PM
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jibthe89VISION
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dude ur fuckin crazy! but i hear what ur what ur sayin....sounds sweet but id defiantly bring some extra protection b4 i hit that bro
Nov 8 2006 2:06PM
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WONTON
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yea the sport is dangerous....but why make a jump like that. It was dumb and all you people saying o well they ahd a choice of hitting it or whatever. Who cares...it was poorly built and if u want to rep skiing and shit then build a fucking better jump. And if u have fun on sucha jump...cool, the jump is still dangerous. You think those who got hurt or almost got hurt had fun?
Nov 8 2006 2:09PM
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nothanks
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I'm not going to read anything anyone else said because it sure looks like a lot of fucking name calling and I'm right-no, I'm right stuff.

But...I'm not that cool with myself, or other people, putting their season, career, knees, and brains on the line to "expose the sport to tons of people." Sure skiing dangerous but every step in a controlled environment like Icer should be taken to make it as safe as possible.....

I'm all for exposure, I'm all for big comps, and big money, and big jumps...but design it a little safer.
Nov 8 2006 2:18PM
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CalShralpGirl
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Of course it was awesome, I had a lot of fun watching it..and I don't think anyone is bitching about the dangers of the sport itself. We all know skiing can be dangerous, we all do it anyway, and we have fun doing these things in spite of (or because of) the risks involved. However, the jump could have been built better to decrease these risks and hopefully next year the people who put on Icer will learn from their mistakes.
Nov 8 2006 2:21PM
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dlite!
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giants suck and sf is filled with fags
Nov 8 2006 2:25PM
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pocket-rocket
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Ok this is valid for your 2 posts and some other people's posts.

As much as chad's gap might be more impressive, fine. You are saying ski for the fun, not to "impress" people. There is a fine line making a distinction between "impressing" people, and "Getting more people to know about our sport".

Chad's gap is no where as accessible to the thousands of people that went into this ballpark, nor all the people that watched it on T.V.

There is the X-Games, but then, you have to have ESPN, and who watches ESPN? Sports fan.

In distinction to all that stuff, this event brougth thousands of people in San francisco. I don't think that these thousands of people were "Core newschoolers".

If you want the sport to grow, it needs more events like this, straigth in the city, never done before, to bring people to discover what this is up to. The sport doesnt revolved around Newschoolers.com, freeskier.com and magazine, and the 10+- ski movies comming out every year. Get ordinary people excited about your sport, it will benefit everyone.

About how sketchy it was, or unsafe, well, as everyone said, everyone had the right not to hit it. All of these athletes are professional, I do not think they would have hit something that would have put their season on ice if it was not safe enough. They would have made reccomendations to make it safer and then, done it. I guess the risks involved were not that much worst than the risk involved in every competitions, as part of the sport. This thread was started by an athlete saying that despite all of the "sketchy" side, it was a great event... this should ring a bell, she was up on the structure, not me, not you, SHE was, and she knows better than anyone who watched it, live or on Tv.
Nov 8 2006 2:52PM
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TimothyLord
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looked mad sketchy

Nov 8 2006 2:57PM
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