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Swing weight?

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Rooddss
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Ok i was thinking about getting the karmas or the anthems or even considering the ar6, but i herd that the Karmas have very weird, or different swing weight than the other two skis when spinning..Is this true? please help, i need advice, planning on buying one of thoes very soon
Nov 4 2006 5:36PM
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WONTON
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i dont get the whole deal with ski weight and swing weight.....just sack it up and spin
Nov 4 2006 5:39PM
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R-Bertsch
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well karma's are the heavier ski of those three, they're obviously going to be harder to stop spinnging...
Nov 4 2006 5:41PM
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Rooddss
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me neither, id figure id ask if its bad or something b4 i get the ski
Nov 4 2006 5:45PM
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Rooddss
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you mean once i start spinning, its going to be harder to stop right..
Nov 4 2006 5:46PM
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Luc.
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if u mount them farther forward, there will be less swing weight.
Nov 4 2006 5:46PM
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Luc.
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plus guys smaller than both of us are on karmas and are throwing huge shit. so i wouldnt worry about it much.
Nov 4 2006 5:48PM
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Rooddss
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true that, the suggested freestyle mount point, is it center for the Karma? or is it back a little bit
Nov 4 2006 5:53PM
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squibble
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compare spinning abnormally light skis with skis that have 2 lbs weights on the tips/tails and youve got 2 different swing weight, just very exagerated. the plus of more swing weight is that it carries you thru the spin, like with peps 90-270 without any swing weight it wouldnt have been possible. with less swing weight though its easier and more fun (imo), like on groomers you can throw little 3s on the side and stuff,
Nov 4 2006 8:33PM
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poofartpee
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go to the shop and "swing" all the skis u named above the one that swings easiest has the lowest swing rate which is supposed to make it easier to spin but i never really beleived it
Nov 4 2006 10:52PM
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cobra_commander
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swing weight is just something kids make up so they think that a ski will make them be able to do 540's
Nov 4 2006 10:58PM
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Rooddss
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b u m p
Nov 4 2006 11:26PM
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steve0
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Swing weight is the mass moment of inertia around the mounting point of your ski. A center mounted ski has a lower moment of inertia than one mounted back a little. A light ski with the same length and weight distribution as a heavier ski will have a lower swing weight. Some of you might know the equation for force is mass times acceleration. The equation for torque (the force you have to apply to spin) is the moment of inertia (J) times rotational acceleration (omega). So a lower swing weight or moment of inertia means it takes less torque to start or stop your spin. And that's about as much as i think you guys can understand. I'll shut up now.
Nov 4 2006 11:35PM
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Rooddss
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almost made sense, "A light ski with the same length and weight distribution as a heavier ski will have a lower swing weigt" if it is light, how does it have the same weight as a heavier ski? i kinda know what ur tryin to say though
Nov 4 2006 11:54PM
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steve0
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not the same weight, the same Weight DISTRIBUTION. Simpler terms - the same density, even simpler terms - the same ski in different lengths. hope that helps
Nov 4 2006 11:59PM
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WONTON
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right on
Nov 5 2006 12:03AM
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bpalmer
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your pretty smart steveo
Nov 5 2006 8:46AM
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