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Rossi fks 185 vs scratch 140 ti
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which one is best value?
i'm 5"10 150 ski on 178 bcs
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both are dope, one's overkill. why not fks 15.5?
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Word, VERY few people need an 18 din binding.
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ur 150 fucking lbs...get a 12 din or if u ski very hard get a 14. Ur not gonna need to have over 10
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yeah, you cant compare the 2. but i would go with the 155 over the 140.
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actually, I use a axial 140 and fks 185... but the 185s are for BC and the 140s are for park, and I'm 6'2" 240.
But anyways, I agree, at 150, just get the scratch. You don't need the fks.
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nah that's just not right. Bindings serve not only different skiers but different purposes as well. I can ski on a softer twintip ski with a p12 at 10 no problem. But when it comes to skiing big mountain on a burly ski I go 11 toe 13 heel on a metal binding instead, like p18 etc.
Guys do this because tey don't want to break plastic bindings on certain types of skis, and I don't want to come out, and because stiffer skis load toes up with way more pressure. Sure I could use P15s or FKS 155s but there are now 2 problems with that. First Look isn't distributing P15s in the states as of this year. Second Rossi isn't offering good color schemses or wider brakes for FKS 155s like they are on FKS 185s and Look is on P18s now.
Look for wide brake P18s in three weeks when they get here from France,and Rossis hopefully by Christmas time. They fit a 110mm waist and can be bent to around 140mm. Too bad I still can't use them to put my Megafats together let alone stop them.
PX14s are nearly as heavy and strong as the race stuff anyway. They are definitely worth comparing to each other.
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Is it bad to ski with the toes and heels set differently? I was told by someone that it was bad for the bindings, but I'm thinking they didn't know what they were talking about, and how much do you weigh?
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the toes have no vertical release on the fks right? that's be hella scary for park.
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I heard that too, I was considering the FKS and the pivoting style Axials, but I definitely don't want to break a leg cause I backseated a landing and my toepiece wouldn't release vertically.
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FKS are definitely not a park binding. Those are for racing and serious big mountain only, in my opinion. If you need an 18 DIN for park you either need to adjust your bindings correctly or lose 300 pounds.
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Ha, agreed, I'll be putting them on Prophet 130's though, they are going to be my powpow sticks, but depending on how I like them, who knows, I might start riding them all over, and I don't need an 18 DIN, but I would consider the FKS 185/P18 more versitle than the S916 Lab, cause they start lower and go higher, I won't be doing any crazy ass, Morrison-esque heli lines, but I could set them at 10 or 11 and be ok...but, as stated, breaking legs from backseating landings is no bueno.
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Hey bro I'm 6' 200lbs before gear and it's fine on the race bindings to use diferential settings. I can see how on some bindings it would affect the consistency of certain types of releases, but that is in part what I am doing by it.
I am ten times more likely to re-tear an ACL and Miniscus from a twisting non release than I am to break a leg in a tumbling situation. I never want to come out of the heels essentialy, because I feel i have a better survival rate in gnar terrain if I rcover a fall than if I lose a ski and it goes off a cliff.
BTW the S916 Lab starts at 8 and goes to 16 so technically your versatility idea on the 18's is shot. The one good thing about the 18s is they're a pound or so lighter than the Salomons.
It almost doesn't matter what you set the Look/Rossi race heels at, they practically don't release anyway. I just am used to skiing bindings at 12 and am turning my toes down now post injry/surgury.
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I'm 6'4" and 160lbs, so not quite as heavy as you, but I just don't want to get fucked cause I land wrong and the bindings won't let me go, that's one reason I like the older Axial, with the vertical toe release and pivoting heel, and the pivoting heel is the reason I like the FKS as well. And I thought the Solly's started at 9? Cause I don't like to run my binders more than 2 notches from either end of the spectrum, just for consistant releases, and usually run my bindings 8-9, so I figured with a 10 or more I'd be ok with the P18/FKS185, but I'd have to bump it another spot on the 916's. And is there any kind of lifter I could get if I decided to go with the FKS style, to help me get some more angle while laying them over on edge?
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^ I think the s916s have a din range from 9 to 16, the labs have 8 to 16.
As for the lifters for the p18s or fks185s... I know that the FKS185 come with like 3 or 4 mm lifter. From what I know though, since they're race stock bindings, they're meant to go right on the ski so that your edge to edge transfer is more responsive from boot to ski.
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ok well thanks everybody for the help
i still have to choose between the two and its no more than a 50 dollar difference
I'd get the 185s because that is the only size with the wb for the scratches
I ride about a 10 give or take, and will ride 60 park/40 bc
so my dillema is get a sick race binding that will last
or a plastic one that is better for the park but cheaper
what are your thoughts?
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you people DO REALIZE they make a FKS120, with the FKS heel, and the Pivot toe, right? pretty much the best of both worlds.
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it comes in a 70mm width, i have 96 underfoot
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shops can and will bend the brakes to fit the necessary skis. Ive seen all sorts of fat skis mounted with race stocks. Its pretty simple using one method, and somewhat complicated using another, but that doesnt matter, because it happens all the time.
but for fucks sake, you dont need a race stock binding. scratch 140 will last plenty long. it has a lot of forward pressure, multidirectional toe, and it isnt overkill. JF Houle uses them, and im willing to bet he rides a bit harder...
I weight like 30lbs more than you and can suffice with a scratch 140.
if youre absolutely paranoid, get a racestock, dont worry about the brake width. But really, you dont need, at all, that much housing.
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i know but they are so much cooler...
i think i'm gonna go with the 140s so i don't have to wait for the shipment or get made fun of
thanks
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no problem. they may be cool, but theyre a race stock, so theyre built for some extreme ass shit. but the scratch can handle a ton, as well, and are better suited
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if you need to ask if you should get the 185's then you shouldn't be on them, you know if thats the binding for you
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My only reason for not getting the FKS or P18 is the fact that is has no multi-directional toe release, and I don't need an 18 DIN, but it starts at 8, so anything above 10 I would say you could rock and be fine, plus it's a metal housing, so bombing cliffs and shit on my Prophet 130's would be fine, no worries about breaking them, but I think I would be fine on the P14 too.
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so pretty much everybody is getting racestock binders now huh?
IF YOU HAVE TO ASK YOU DON'T NEED THEM! christ.
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I have the 140ti, and they are phenominal bindings. I have never had a problem with prerelease, ect., ect. I would recomend these bindings to anyone.
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hhahaha yea unless you oftenly break toe pieces.
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