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Yup, I started last year on skiboards. I ended up snapping one pair in half and the second pair I ended up denting the edge so bad I gave up hope on them (oh yeah, and I wasn't even doing rails, so I have no clue how the dent happened). I mean, honestly, they're fun and I wouldn't mind riding them once in a while. Since it seems a good percentage of newschoolers started on skiboards, why all the hate?