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i cant take it anymore, its too cold to wakeboard and pretty much the same for surfing unless i buy a thicker wetsuit. i need to ski, so i might have to pay up for timberline. probably not this weekend because its supposed to rain but maye the next one. rock jibs and a 20 ft table sound really fun right about now, you should all join me. sorry kamikaze i should have gone when you said, except i had to go to the OSU game, yeah, we beat USC!