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End of cork 180 discussion

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snocompton
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A cork 180 is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. To complete a "corked" trick it requires more then 180* of rotation. This is fact. Although there are 180's out there that you might as well call corked becuase their damn close to it. But in reality, there is no cork 180. But fuck reality, this is skiing.
Oct 31 2006 1:03AM
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Gez
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so in effect, you did nothing to end the discussion of such...you gave two "arguments" and then refuted them both yourself....
Oct 31 2006 1:05AM
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ZavierV
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Oh dude, you're kidding me. For one, this is the nth threaed on this so SEARCHBAR for that. Two, it was proven in Skimatic that a cork 180 IS  possible. I was skeptical at first, I saw it, I believed.
Oct 31 2006 1:06AM
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snocompton
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I did fucking end the argument and not its not possible.

Again, A CORKED ROTATION REQUIRES MORE THEN 180 DEGREES OF ROTATION TO BE A CORKED SPIN.
Oct 31 2006 1:07AM
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snocompton
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The second statement i made was just my opinion. I believe thaat there are 180's that follow the cork rotation and can be called a cork. But in reality its not a cork becuase a cork as i said, takes more then 180* of rotaion.


All im doing is stating a fact, and then voicing my opinon on the whole matter.

Oct 31 2006 1:10AM
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ZavierV
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GO WATCH SKIMATIC.
Oct 31 2006 1:10AM
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WONTON
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i think a cork is not just an off axis, but rather an off axis rotation where u must spin more to come out of the cork. I dunno if that made sense
Oct 31 2006 1:15AM
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SteveStepp
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no offense yo, but how do you know a "cork HAS to be more than 180"?

you dont know....because its never been established before. you're the first person to come up with this theory.

Obviously cork 180s are possible. Go watch Lolo in Skimatic. Go watch THAT, some snowboarder does a HUGE one in the BC.
Oct 31 2006 1:20AM
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Gez
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BINGO

That is what is comes down to....who says that a "cork" spin has to be more than 360 degrees? It ultimately comes down to semantics; how you define cork...
Oct 31 2006 1:25AM
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aznpcskier
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thinking outside the box more people need to do this...
Oct 31 2006 1:27AM
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WONTON
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thats just my opinion...agree or not thats okay
Oct 31 2006 1:28AM
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Swick825
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for real, watch that shit.
Oct 31 2006 1:33AM
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KeegLove
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holy shit you are one dumb son of a bitch, cork 90's are possible cor 45's are possible, its called momentum, look it up in that physics book where your getting all your rock solid info.
Oct 31 2006 1:38AM
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TWallisch
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shits def possible
Oct 31 2006 1:41AM
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futurespin
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First you definitely need to watch skimatic... Second, I would never expect someone to be able to do a switch 180 and then turn back the other way and do a 360... but then I saw pep at JOI. Skiers keep changing what you think is possible. If the jump is big enough i wouldnt be surprised to see zero spin corks in the next few years...
Oct 31 2006 1:45AM
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freezed
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mass times velocity?
Oct 31 2006 1:48AM
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KZA
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watch state of mind, ski matic, and other movies. its completly possible. and since when does it have to be passed a 180 since u decided it. and THAT to
Oct 31 2006 1:53AM
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[~_~]
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yea! and you're stinky!
Oct 31 2006 2:08AM
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*rkp*
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people are saying that for it to be corked, it needs to be in a rotation...   

well isn't a 180 180 degrees OF ROTATION?
Oct 31 2006 2:11AM
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Aerozol
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cork is possible on a step up, that's for sure...

If madd ass Pep fujas can do a switch unnatural cork (nearly ) 180 , to late natural 180, I'm going to say that somebody is gonna do it. Because I thought that was impossible...
Oct 31 2006 2:25AM
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mothaeast
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Momentum / (mass x friction) - inertia + (17 x Gravity) = Cork 180, 90, or 45

Thats basic concrete physics
Duh
Oct 31 2006 3:11AM
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FJibber
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exactly. I thought it was impossible too. Then I saw LOLO stomp it and now I BELIEVE! fucking lolo that segment is so fun too watch it makes me cry
Oct 31 2006 5:59AM
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Age
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WHO
THE
FUCK
CARES
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Does it really make a difference if its corked or not? I mean either way itll look sick.
Oct 31 2006 6:11AM
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InfernoHits
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they are possible. Technically it was impossible for pep to spin 90 degrees one way and 270 the other in the air. But humans have something called muscle control which allows us to be able to do it.
Oct 31 2006 7:16AM
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fistsofsteel
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errmmm....does it ACTUALLY matter?
Oct 31 2006 7:35AM
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FUUUCK
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i cant believe youre actually discussing this
Oct 31 2006 8:55AM
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STACKS
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Shits been done so stop crying about the fact that its not a cork. Who cares what the definition it of a cork. L farve did it off a big breck jump so it is totally possiable.
Oct 31 2006 9:09AM
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snocompton
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I have ski matic and i have seen luarent farve's "corked"180. So stop telling me to go see it.

And a cork spin comes from a corkscrew which rotates in a spiral rotation and a full cork rotation is one full twist of an acutl cork screw thus meaning that a cork 180 is impossible. Its just a really off axis 180.
Oct 31 2006 10:38PM
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hoodratz47
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i can spin in the 4th dimenson.. so fuck you all
Oct 31 2006 10:47PM
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wiglaf
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eric messer, onelove... the shit is real

if they can do it so can we
Oct 31 2006 10:51PM
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thefilmerguy
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the guy who posted this thread just got owned big time, and hey man give us THE definition of cork  besides just that it has to be more than a 180 rotation, if you disagree
Oct 31 2006 10:54PM
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dooner
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So what youre saying is that a cork 180 is not possible, but a cork 182 IS possible? try explaining that to me, please.
Oct 31 2006 11:17PM
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Freestyla_01
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http://media.nscdn.com/uploads/member/videos/8994Lolocork180sw5.wmv
There's one.
Oct 31 2006 11:28PM
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snocompton
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Theres no possible way for me to say this without sounding like im contradicting myself so im just going to do it as best i can.

A full "corked" rotation takes 360* to be completed. This comes from that fact that an actual corkscrew takes one full turn to complete its motion. K this is where it gets tricky. So based on that statement, the only way for a spin to be called "corked" is if its at least 360* of rotation. But, you can still do a 180 and follow the path of a corked rotation, you just have to really pull it out at the end to stick it. Now it just comes down to opinon of weather you feel that if somone does a 180 along the path of a cork its called a cork 180 or its just a really off axis 180.

In the end its all personal opinion.
Nov 1 2006 2:43PM
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Grimace.
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all i know is that in skimatic there is a mad legit quick carved cork 180 by laurent favre(sp)
Nov 1 2006 2:46PM
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scientist
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who really cares. It looks off the grid
Nov 1 2006 2:53PM
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Ahmets_Brother
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why bring this up? its people like you that deserve to get fucked in the ass by a raging rhino
Nov 1 2006 4:02PM
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SNOWMOWER
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doable
Nov 1 2006 5:12PM
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bailer
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wow this guy just got powned someone needs to give him a hug
Nov 1 2006 5:19PM
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philipc
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you can cork 1 on a step up
Nov 1 2006 5:25PM
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BurgRider
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They only way I can think of it being possible would be to hit a booter switch with a really steep landing. but thats still not even really cork because you arent coming out of the andgle you put your self in you are just landing. So I am going to have to agree and say they are impossible
Nov 1 2006 5:39PM
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ThePoopSock
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this year its gonna be all about the corked 90s onto and off of rails
trust me
Nov 1 2006 5:43PM
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cracko
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i completely agree except for the cork 180s are impossible part.

Nov 1 2006 5:44PM
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skier_boy26
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i think skiers have deviated away from the notion of "corkscrew" spins. cork is just the way to describe that type of axis nowadays. so a cork 180 is in the same "family" if you will with cork 3s, cork 7s, 9s, etc. etc.
Nov 1 2006 5:47PM
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skiierman
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Bahahaha, yes, yes... the wheels are in motion now...
Nov 1 2006 6:06PM
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Freestyla_01
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So on your logic, we should be calling things like dpsins, where the last half of the trick doesn't follow that same path of rotation, say.... a cork 360 to on axis 360. Because really, anything off axis is considered "cork" these days.
Nov 1 2006 7:39PM
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cj
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WHO WANTS TO GO RIDE BIKES?
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Nov 1 2006 7:42PM
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jamesmccormick
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k i really dont think l. favres cork 1 was corked at all it was just like borderline off axis. and DeV you are a fucking moron
Nov 1 2006 7:52PM
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BFFset.
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actually, you "fucking ended" both of your arguments, which essentially ends nothing....that shits possible tho
Nov 1 2006 8:48PM
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BFFset.
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oh and btw, where is the skiing rule book that you got your info from, where does it say you need more spin for it to be sorked...is there like a park skiing rule book? defeats the point...
Nov 1 2006 8:50PM
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BFFset.
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oh and if it has to be a full spin to be a cork, then cork 5s and 9s are impossible too???
Nov 1 2006 8:56PM
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