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Bern Baker helmet - Safe or not?!

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anomericas
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I've read probably 10 different posts with differing opinions on the safety of the bern baker.  They way I see it, is that Bern wouldnt advertise it as a snow helmet (knit liner) if it wasn't safe, but some people are convinced that it is not as safe as other helmets.

Does anyone have a definite answer to this??
Oct 23 2006 1:52PM
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Riley.
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SAFE....they are well padded and use the same foam to protect your dome as other companies. the most dangerous thing i could ever think of would be the little visor somehow getting in the way of head to "something" contact. But if your worrying about that....go home.
Oct 23 2006 1:57PM
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alfredrunner08
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its more safe then not wearing one
Oct 23 2006 2:01PM
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Ryanvdonk
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safer than nothing, not as safe as other helms. so it's snot.
Oct 23 2006 3:05PM
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Powforbreakfast.
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well, on the bern site it says that it's a hardhat... and i read somewhere else that construction workers use them quite often.  but looking deeper, it also has the hard foam on the inside of the shell.  so there is the half and half from both sides in the baker.  i don't know if it's safer or not, but i'm sticking witht the in-mold tech in helmets.  i think bern calls it zip-mold.  anywho, more hard foam, still a stong outside.  much like the nine.nine from giro.
Oct 23 2006 3:20PM
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lineski900
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I have a bern baker. They are pretty sfe, better than not wearing a helmet at all
Oct 23 2006 5:16PM
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Skipig25
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It is technically a hard hat. But like someone said, it is safer than nothing. But not as safe as a real helmet, for example a giro fuse/g10/9.9/BL
Oct 23 2006 5:17PM
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dbag37
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I fell on head/shoulder/side last february wearing a bern baker, breaking my pelvis and shattering my collarbone and my head wasn't even bruised. Trust me, its safe.
Oct 23 2006 5:26PM
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freezed
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just because your head didn't get hurt in one instance doesn't make it a safe helmet. thats terrible logic.
Oct 23 2006 5:38PM
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*DrewT*
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you should talk to my sister
Oct 23 2006 6:00PM
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cmo
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i thought they advertised it as a hardhat because its not ment for motorized use?
Oct 23 2006 9:06PM
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*rkp*
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its fine.   people just like to bitch about stuff
Oct 23 2006 9:18PM
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cmo
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yea i got one, its defnitly burly, its like a beefed up bike helmet, doesnt sammy use a regular bike helmet?
Oct 23 2006 9:22PM
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scientist
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theres a est somewhere that says that your average snow and skatehelmet becomes useless with more than X km/h impact. the number is pretty low, but i cant remeber the exact figures.
Oct 23 2006 9:29PM
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PeteP
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Cannada's olympic freestyle ski team rode with em they should be safe
Oct 23 2006 9:42PM
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RosarioAK
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obviously they wouldnt ride a unsafe helmet retard
Oct 24 2006 8:24PM
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mnjib
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from what i know some of their helmets didnt pass the safty standard tests for snow helmets in the US but did pass in europe.(cant remeber which ones and if they had fixed that or not)
Oct 24 2006 8:31PM
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pietrovito157
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Its funny you talk about safe:

All the ski helemets on the market are single impact helemets which means u drop it fall on it kick it sit on it etc. the life span of most helemets is over the Marker M3 is one of the only multi impact helemets. Bern is just as safe as the rest of them who really cares like everyone says its safer then not wearing one...

Just some food for thought in the US theres no regulation on helemets for skiing or any standards that they should meet most however, get tested and meet about a 10mph rating which unless your a novice or your just fucking around doing some urban shit if you hit your head right your helemet wont do shit for you so wear em if u've got em but other then that neither is safer in the real scheme of things..
Oct 24 2006 9:13PM
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huck1
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i bought the Bern Baker late season last year. haven't done any head-to-rail action, but some other burly falls off jumps it seems to hold up pretty well. just my opinion, but I think its a good helmet.
Oct 24 2006 9:48PM
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Gtweaker
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that confused the fuck out of me....so ur saying u can only use it for one fall?please fill me in.
Oct 24 2006 10:20PM
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pietrovito157
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^ ya thats what the helemet manufactures say...
Oct 24 2006 10:52PM
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Gtweaker
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gayyy im gunna go through like 4545612489745415148979 helmets this year then
Oct 25 2006 12:05AM
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off_axis
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far as i know helmets only go through one major impact... so if you hit your head and get a decent knock out of it get a new helmet
Oct 25 2006 9:02PM
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Grimace.
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berns are single impact helmets meaning if you get a hardenough fall on your head you will need a new one, giro and other companys make multi impact helmets.
Oct 25 2006 9:11PM
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ShadyHillGroup
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i think you have this confused, or maybe its just me, im not sure about bern, but i know r.e.d. and i think giro are all single impact meaning you fall hard helmets done with, the foam cracks slowing down the imacts, some shit to do with inertia, but im not a doctor
Oct 25 2006 9:49PM
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pietrovito157
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giro and bern and red are all single impact the only one that i know of thats multi impact is marker M3
Oct 25 2006 9:52PM
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K.C.Deane
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What you need to look at is the safety rating, or if its SNELL approved. SNELL is the main safety rating for helmets, and I know berns dont have them. However its wwwaayyy better than not using anything. A friend of mine used one last year and she took a couple good hits to the dome.
Oct 26 2006 11:19AM
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stinkypoodangle
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most helmets are only single impact because the foam that is inside of them compacts when you hit your head hard enough. if the foam has already been compacted then it will do you no good in another crash.
Oct 26 2006 11:28AM
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D-40
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what i dont understand is how are you supposed to know if your helmet has taken its one bad fall and you shouldnt be using it anymore?
Oct 26 2006 11:28AM
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RosarioAK
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if u hit it hard on ice and it has like a dent or a crack then u shouldnt use it. but they just say that to avoid law suites, i dont think its a big deal if you just fall on a landing or anything, i wouldnt bother getting a whole new one, just make sure there isnt any cracks and keep going.
Oct 26 2006 1:09PM
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killswitch
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i have the baker and there's a warning on the package or on a sticker inside helmet or somewhere like that that says it's only approved for KAYAKING and not for snow sports or biking or skateboarding. oh, and bern is multi impact cause of the type of foam they use. giros aren't. i don't know about the marker.
Oct 26 2006 3:41PM
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Justo8484
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any helmet that uses EPS foam is not multi impact. what happens when you step on styrofoam packaging that a lot of electronics come in? it breaks or crushes. this foam is similar to what is used in most helmets, and its designed to crush on a hard impact. dropping your helmet on the ground does not mean its toast. landing on your head on a 40 foot table usually does. most falls you take dont really count as an "impact."
Oct 26 2006 4:28PM
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anomericas
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really??  that's weird, because its marketed as a snow/bike/skate/water helmet, seems like false advertising if so.
Oct 31 2006 2:39PM
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WONTON
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a lot of mogulists customize their helmets. i.e. adding foam, cutting foam, etc.
Oct 31 2006 2:46PM
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killswitch
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i don't know anything about EPS foam ir whatever but when you actually look at the foam in the bern it's pbviously multi impact. it's made of small balls of styrofoam help together with glue. it's squishy.
Nov 1 2006 7:09PM
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Powforbreakfast.
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no.
Nov 3 2006 12:32AM
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Powforbreakfast.
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sorry, don't mean to sound like an ass, but i'm pretty sure it's single impact.
Nov 3 2006 12:32AM
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ktollefson_1080
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its just gonna cusion ur fall. all helmets have their own thing. no helmet can keep u from getting a cauncaution or wutever
Nov 3 2006 1:19AM
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C.Robs
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i have a baker and i smacked my noggin' off the ground cuz i over rotated and landed deep in the flat off a 50 footer or so... i was a bit phased and dizzy but i was riding fine later that day.... and im fine now... so.
Mar 8 2007 5:35PM
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