07 Karmas

they are different in only 1 way. they are made not as stiff as last years. now i think this is very mineute....but i think it is becasue they changed the material for the topsheet...last year it being more grippy and shit and this year only being like a normal top sheet. but they are damn light i think the same thing every time i hold them....but once they are mounted you will feel a big difference im sure.
(i have the 06-07)

Mount them with a light binding like the S914 and they will stay light.

I'd like to ski a pair in a 177 to compare to my 05/06's just to see.

I can't remember what mine feel like weight-wise unmounted.

I have a hard time believing the that topsheet material makes that much difference to either the stiffness or the weight, but maybe.

Mine are mounted up with Rossi Axial 110's which aren't THAT heavy. It's not the overall ski weight that seems that bad either, just the swing weight, and that's what seemed to be adjusted on the newer Karma, but it could have just been a placebo effect.

The swing weight of the Karma's get's a bad rep becaues the normal FR mounting point is way far back. Probably a lot of people just have them mounted there. Has anybody had problems with the swing weight while mounting +2cm?

They have a nice even flex pattern, which means the core is a similar thickness down the length of the ski, which means the tail and shovel have a pretty decent amount of material, which means they feel heavier than skis which shape the thickness of the core more aggressively as it moves away from the center.

I have mine mounted at the FS mark, though had them mounted at FR before. The swing weight was improved by the change of course. They still don't feel as feather light as Foils or Chronics when throwing them around. Of course they're a lot more solid when charging.