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K2 Public Enemy vs Völk Karma

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landa
Posts: 4 - Karma: 10
I'd like to know what do you think about these skis.
which one do you prefer?
opinions please!!
thx
Oct 10 2006 12:21PM
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billy092
Posts: 1202 - Karma: 12
Pretty similair, both are great all mtn, and both are pretty stiff, but hte karma is stiffer. Also the karma probably is gonna last you longer but its also gonna cost more. THe PE is a cheaper alternative and a little more 50-50 park allmtn ration as opposed to a ?->50 with the karma. Hope that helps
Oct 10 2006 12:56PM
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landa
Posts: 4 - Karma: 10
sry but i dont understand the final line, you meant that the karma are better prepared for all mountain than PE, isn't it?

That's what i want, a pair skis that allow me to go quite fast in piste, not just a ski to be whole day in the park.
any other alternative?

sorry for my poor english...
Oct 10 2006 2:39PM
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Kevo
Posts: 2374 - Karma: 136
A lot of this depends on where you mount them. The farther forward you mount either ski the more park specific it gets.

But yeah, from my experience the Karma is more suited for all mountain than the PE. Both are good solid skis.
Oct 10 2006 3:15PM
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huntpip29
Posts: 135 - Karma: 10
i would say pub enemy.




ilike them better
Oct 10 2006 6:06PM
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cmeriptahoe
Posts: 1785 - Karma: 12
karma for sure. but it depends on what you are doin. karmas are definitely an all mountain ski and are stiff. id take them over the PE's
Oct 10 2006 6:08PM
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poofartpee
Posts: 7436 - Karma: 1,538
Karma i didnt like the PEs to heavy and dead feeling for me
Oct 10 2006 7:36PM
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EClay46
Posts: 2499 - Karma: 69
ya same here P.E.s are so dead
Oct 10 2006 7:53PM
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cofreeskier
Posts: 3189 - Karma: 15
the karmas would be leaning toward all-mtn more while public enemys are more of a 50/50 park/rest of mtn ski
Oct 10 2006 8:18PM
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schmies
Posts: 2032 - Karma: 511
Have any of you even skied the Public Enemy? hahahahahahahahaha.
Oct 11 2006 11:10AM
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RRP-llc
Posts: 205 - Karma: 10
Here's how I look at it. If I were only going to have one ski, it would be the Karma. It skis, for lack of a better term, like a GS race ski that can go backwards and jump. The PE is close, but not quite there. I have 2 skis (park & 'carving') so I have Foils for park and either a Head Monster 82 or Elan Magfire 12 to carve on.

If you are a strong skier (maybe used to race) the Karma rocks. If you are more of an intermediate, I would go with the PE. It is a little softer and more forgiving than the Karma.

--rick
Oct 11 2006 11:55AM
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titsLOL
Posts: 7485 - Karma: 396
search bar, there's mad threads on this
Oct 11 2006 12:31PM
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DirtyMick
Posts: 1496 - Karma: 21
my opinion: Karma. Volkls are bombproof. stiff, fast, allmoutain and just basicly destroy everything. but i've heard the pe's are fun too.
Oct 11 2006 6:26PM
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shrEddie
Posts: 5117 - Karma: 65
i have 04-05 PE's and they arent very sweet. im getting them mounted more towards the center though, so they should be a little better this season
Oct 11 2006 6:48PM
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Dirty.Harry.
Posts: 1779 - Karma: 351
i have PE's. they are real good for going everywhere, incl. the park. however, from what i read and hear, the karma's are higher quality, and if i do say so, have a cooler graphic. thats if you're willing to pay a few bucks extra.
Oct 11 2006 9:46PM
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Nedward_Plimpton
Posts: 399 - Karma: 75
karmas are the dopest ski out there, they are definately a little stiffer than most skis but if u are a capable skier there prolly the best all mountain twins out there, i have mine mounted in like the freeride setting, and they are still super stompy in the park, not as good on rails, but thats wut u use a ski like the fujative for... karmas are definately the way 2 go
Oct 11 2006 11:33PM
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HiTz
Posts: 1467 - Karma: 11
definately the karma...its a better ski in every aspect in my opinion
Oct 12 2006 12:58AM
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TMAC
Posts: 156 - Karma: 10
karma if you're looking for a 'hardass' ski. PE if you wanna relax a little. the graphics on both are pretty sick but the karma will break your wallet more!!
Oct 12 2006 8:59AM
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landa
Posts: 4 - Karma: 10
thanks a lot!!
i've just decided... KARMA's
i'll buy them in a german web www.sport-conrad.de they have the best prices i've ever seen
185cm karma with marker M12--->>420€... soo 460-480$
i think it's really cheap
thanks for the opinions!
Oct 12 2006 2:24PM
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Luc.
Posts: 7540 - Karma: 59
shit that is DIRT cheap....i am paying 799.99 plus taxes on mine.
Oct 12 2006 4:00PM
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