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do not get them i got some last year they were a fun ski untill i ripped out like a foot of edge on both skis and chipped the top sheet so like half of it was missing
yeah last years dogens were peices of shit my buddy had the tail seperate from both layers and they are just shit. i've heard about so maney problems with them.
Yeah, just looking for a FUN ski to fuck around on for days when it has not snowed for a while. Rather have the Karmas but I can get a pair of Dogens for super cheap.