9/11 conspiricies

about that picture^, i saw the actual security tape of a gate right next to the pentagon, and it clearly shows a large commercial airline skipping across the lawn before slamming into the pentagon and exploding. the reason they showed it was to make asshole conspiracy theorists shut the fuck up.
in my AP chemistry class, my chem teacher talked about 9/11 stuff, and i took notes for the sole purpose of owning your faces:

you claim that the towers fell due to explosions or detonations that were meant to demolish them. WRONG. in the investigation after 9/11, experts in a field called "corrosion chemistry" were brought in to examine the remains of the towers. they concluded that when the planes hit the towers, their gas tanks were ruptured and jet fuel leaked out all over the impact area, and ignited. the intensity from the heat stressed the metal supports of the building to a point where they could not support the weight of the 20 or so floors above it, causing it to collapse. that initial collapse is what caused the rest of the tower to collapse, because having that much of the building fall on the rest of the building is not something that the building can withstand. the terrorists actually planned this alot more than you think. they hit the towers at exactly the right spot. if they had hit too high, there would not be enough weight over the impact site to cause the rest of the tower to collapse. if they had hit too low, the building would not collapse because the lower section of the building is much stronger and could probably withstand it. the terrorists also purposely hit the buildings at an angle, so that they could take advantage of the wingspan and strike as many floors as possible.

you're digging yourselves into holes, stop and think.

WATCH "LOOSE CHANGE" THERE YOU WILL SEE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!


The towers didnt collapse because of the planes, but because of bombs planted inside the building! a building like that cant collapse from a plane crash! The collums holding the building up melts at minimum 1600 and aircraft fuel burns at maximum 1000 or something! so its imposible. and if you watch the clip of the plane crashing you see the building explodes before the planes hit it! explain that!

do you people not even read what everyone else has to say? the information we get is from experts and official documents. the information you get is from a college asshole who had too much time on his hands and some sketchy web pages. the metal structure in the world trade center towers was made of steel, which melts at about 1370*C. the thousands of gallons jet fuel that was released into the towers burns at about 1000*C. this is not high enough to actually melt the beams. HOWEVER, the beams were weakened by the heat, so they warped and bent. the temperature does not need to be at the melting point of steel to weaken it, only to melt it. (get it? melting point? melt?) any type of increased temperature will cause any metal to lose its sturdiness. the jet fuel burned at a temperature close enough to cause serious damage to the steel structure, thus causing it to warp, bend, and eventually collapse.
about the bombs in the building, first take a moment to stab yourself in the eye with a pen. now watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZcNneo0dv8  there's a good angle at roughly 2:30 into the movie, where you can DISTINCTLY SEE the plane crash into the building, and roughly 2 seconds later, the explosion ensues, leaving the jet fuel plenty of time to ignite and explode. an explosion caused by bombs before the plane even hit the building? bullshit.
are you ready to shut the fuck up?

oh and here are my sources for the facts on the world trade center structure and steel melting point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center#The_Twin_Towers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel

nah man, this is bullshit! loose change is the real truth you are just too blind to see it. open your eyes! the government planned the whole thing so that they could start the Iraq war and hezbollah war so they could then make war on Afghanistan. if the planes never hit the hezbollah would have taken over israel and the u.s. wouldnt help because we dont hate terrorists enough. dont you see? the goverment fooled us into hating the terrorists so they could fight hezbohhah and al jazeera and saddamn hussein. 9/11 has nothing to do with muslims, they're 100% innocent! its all propaganda! open your eyes!

duuude this has nothing to do with muslims. this has to do with al-queda and other terrorist organizations who have hit us before, so we already hate them and there is no reason for the government to recreate a terrorist attack to make us hate them..because we already hate them! we were already looking to weapons of mass destruction and such in iraq, and we have previous disagreements with hussein, so we already hate them and him and have a motive to want to start something. so 9/11 would have served no governmental purpose since the problems were already present.
and since you're suggesting the government is behind 9/11, are you also suggesting the government is behind the attack on the world trade center 10 years earlier?

I actually think i lost brain cells by reading that...

thank you! finally someone here other than me with a normally functionaing brain

i dont see why people think im stupid.

i think 9/11 was an inside job for 1 simple reason. there were too many conicidences on 9/11 that nobody can explain. im not talking about the structural facts im talking about pnac, and how everything that is happening now was planned before 9/11.  im talking about what the neocons gained from 9/11. israeli mossad spottedi n 9/11 celebrating after it happened. muhammed atta being photgraphed. after 9/11. the fact is nobody on this site knows if it was an inside job or not. of course if you have been fed the mainstream story for the past 5 years yoru going to believe it, but everything that i have read makes alot of sense, it fits together like a puzzle. i believe it, even if its not from a globaly trusted source like the mainstream news.

You are an idiot, the U.S had nothing to do with Hezbollah and Hezbollah had nothing to do with the U.S when it started fighting again with Israel. And why wouldn't we hate terrorists? They will sacrafice their lives to fulfill thier 'duties' which usually means kill a certain group of people at any cost. Even if 9|11 didn't happen, I still would hate terrorists.

nah dude you're all wrong. it has to do with Bush igniting the third world war against the muslims of the Middle East. 9/11 happened so that Bush could ignite this war. Al Jazeera, Hezbolla, and afghanistan are only the beginning! Afghanistan=Oil see any connections?! Iraq=Fertile Crescent see any connections? the u.s. is trying to eradicate the muslims and set up a sphere of influence over the innocents. when the sphere is controled they will have access to all of afghanistan oil and iraqi fertile soil for farming. oil=profit! crops=profit! Hezbolla is tryin to stop this by fighting the foothold that the u.s. has in the middle east, israel. Iran also recognizes this and thats why they are trying to develop nuclear weapons for protection. why do you think the u.s. is trying so hard to prevent this? open your eyes, see the connections.

Once you look at the facts its almost obvious that the government was involved in 9/11.

can all you people please watch loose change? just do it!

And wtf is up with bush? his the dumbest guy i have ever seen with power.. that guy must be retarded or something

Are you retarded? I wont even mention the grammer errors soo. The Iraq war and the coflict between Israel and Heizbollah occurd after Afganistan. Israel could have easily defeated Hizbollah without Americas help, America actualy hindered the Israelis by pushing for a cease fire. The United States has never been activly involved in fighting Al Jazeera.

Good job taking Fuck the Polices well thought out and long arguments and making his side of the issue look like its full of retarded fuckers like you.

HAHAHAHA im not even going to respond to this nonsense.
And by the way i have watched loose change and another 9/11 video posted earlier, loose change is full of acusations and coincidences, the other 9/11 movie was much better becuase it went through the physics of how the two towers couldnt have fallen from the plane crashes, it was a lot more thought provking then Loose Shit, sorry i mean Change

HEY MAN! don't make fun of loose change. if it werent for those guys who exposed the lies of the government we would still be ignorant of the truth!!! they took great personal risk to show the truth to the world.

if you're going to call me an idiot you have to prove me wrong.

Fact: U.S. is at war with Al Jazeera
Fact: Iraq forms fertile crescent
Fact: Afghanistan=Oil
Fact: PMAC is proof of U.S. involvement in 9/11 (Iraq war? Al Jazeera? Mohhamad Ali? Too much coincidence)

you can't deny the facts. they all point to government involvement in 9/11.

Brilliant!

Tell me kiddies, is it really that hard to pick up on internet sarcasm?

Haha, for some reason I got the image of those Guiness guys saying "Brilliant!!" in that tone of voice they use in thier commercials Patty. I think you could pull it off well!

lol.. If we are getting so much fucking oil from the middle-east, why did the prices get so out of hand? And how exactly does a Loan Agency proove that the U.S. had involvment in killing 3,000 people, wrecking the economy, and being able to keep it secret from the world? Anyway, I don't see any reasons WHY the government would be a part of it. Think, what has it done? Bush's goal is to fight terrorism, I don't see how this benefit's him (beside's the fact we don't have to worry about some lunatic's killing thousand's of people). The economy obviously isn't doing well, and we've made more enemy's, It doesn't make any sense at all. What makes sense is that a bunch of terrorists hi-jacked planes, flew them into some buildings sparking a massive global attack on terrorism. I don't care if you have some bullshit coincidence's you call proof, it doesn't add up.

I was wondering when someone was going to realize he wasn't serious.

FuckThePolice, do you even have to ask why you're stupid? You believe a bunch of bullshit theories created by a bunch of attention seeking rejects. You have too much time on your hands, get outside. Go play a sport, climb a mountain, join the fucking chess team, just interact with people and tell them how you feel about it. Then you will see why we call you an idiot. You're not going to find anyone who believes this horse shit, that's why you're stupid.

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That movie about the collapsing of the towers is very interesting. Brought up alot of legit points, the buildings were already fucked up due to the asbestos. They were a threat to the health of the people in them.

Alright i'll take my precious time to disprove your "facts" but its only becuase i love the truth.

Fact 1- The US can't be at war with Al Jazera becuase Al Jazera is a tv station, its not an organization or a country, its a company.

Fact 2- The region that Iraq occupys is named the fertile cresent, but your reasoning ealier that the US invaded iraq so that we could make money off farming there is ludicris, if America needed to make more money off of farming, we could just stop building houses and malls over our existing farmland. And mind you that many american farmers are paid by the government not to farm, so there is no need for us to go into iraq for more farmland.

Fact 3- Afganistan does not have any significant oil reserves, the only thing that has to do with oil in afganistan are the pipelines running through it.

Fact 4- Mohhamad Ali? what, he doesnt have anything to do with this

none of those facts point to the united states government being involved in 9/11

Dude, may i burst your bubble?

You just, well... came off as an idiot.

If you had read the thread, you would know that Sid is one of the smarter guys in this thread, and agrees with you...

The post that you quoted and the past three or four from him, were sarcastic, and you fell for it.

Fact 4 should have tipped you off.

damnit, i thought that it was just someone being a jackass. ehh it was fun though.

I'm suprised... but these well-cultured well read academics who have posted comments above have made little to no comment on the economic impact 911 has had on America.

Look at the price of fuel, and try to explain why it is becoming increasingly expensive when the bush authority has most of it in their possession. Don't talk about Katrina. Prices were high before that even happend.

Look at the price of gas, look at the supposed break-down of costs. It's displayed in the form of nice and colourful 3d-projected pie-graph, at most fueling stations.

Watch "Who killed the electric car" and start making your own conclusions/opinions based on a variety of sources. Definately from sources that aren't directly related to 911. Everything you will get from there is quite clearly biased in one way or another.