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Since wen does msp suck?

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lunchmeat
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i didnt get how there is so much negativity with msp films on newschooleers. i own focused and year book and have enjoyed ski movies 123 i really liked the hit list and look forward to buying push the new one. so i would like to no y everyone doesnt like them
Jul 24 2006 1:45PM
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ATLskier
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look in the other threads. there are way too many of these, but to answer your question. its the same movie every year. They have horrible business practices too. I choose not to support them.
Jul 24 2006 1:49PM
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Ahmets_Brother
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dont ask, dont tell
Jul 24 2006 2:10PM
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albatross.
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I made a montage the other day, and steve winter came into my house, knocked over a painting, and told my dad to withdraw sponsorship of my film.
Jul 24 2006 2:14PM
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nothanks
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Hahahaahahahhahha. Tom.
Jul 24 2006 2:17PM
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johnnypsunami
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i noticed that freeskier doesnt even have the push trailer on their site. This overwhelms me with joy.
Jul 24 2006 3:40PM
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l337
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They progressed it to a point where people said hey I can do better then this.
But MSP owns big mountain scenes. They are so good at doing those
Jul 24 2006 3:45PM
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Holte
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hahahaha i'm still laughing
Jul 24 2006 3:46PM
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jibberkid69
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who else has a better big mountain movie? tgr and msp are rad, just cause they dont hit urban rails and have riders over 25 years old doesnt make them lame, i think they're sick
Jul 24 2006 3:52PM
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nothanks
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Wink inc(the waiting game) and tgr(every tgr movie ever) owned MSP. They don't even have big mountain on lock.
Jul 24 2006 3:54PM
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l337
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Seth Morrison is MSP's big moutain scene.
You can't beat seth morrison.

And yes TGR is insane. Didn't see the wainting game (couldn't afford it)

Jul 24 2006 3:59PM
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nothanks
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Yah...didn't he not film with them last season...and not again this season either...
Jul 24 2006 4:08PM
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switch-it-up
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when ski movie 3 came out i was truly amazed. it was the sickest movie out there along with happy dayz. but focused was good but not as good. and everything else kinda sucked
Jul 24 2006 4:12PM
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[~_~]
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YES PERFECT!! ahaha.

and I've never been into MSP movies. I really like their filming, but their overall movies are sooo boring. The first good segment I saw them make was T Rainville in Yearbook. I was really into TGR when I was little, but then I discovered Poorboyz and was like "fuck that"
Jul 24 2006 4:33PM
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Daniel.
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let them do business as they please because half of you fucking kids don't know exactly what the fuck your talkin about but yet you hate on them because you think you know. but you have no clue.
Jul 24 2006 4:57PM
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dwalk
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i enjoyed yearbook
Jul 24 2006 5:22PM
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nitsua
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ehh. i liked yearbook. and push looks really good. dont hate.
Jul 24 2006 5:24PM
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Grimace.
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since year book
Jul 24 2006 5:41PM
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Itsbackfliptime
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Their movies are kind of boring. Their is about half an hour of skiing slowed down to make a 90 minute video. Also they did some pretty shitty stuff to other film companies.
Jul 24 2006 5:51PM
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[~_~]
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Push/Pull looks pretty sick though. Just as long as they take out big mountain skiing and excessive narration.
Jul 24 2006 10:39PM
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4frntSkier
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umm once you watch a movie from another production company
with the exception of h30
Jul 24 2006 11:02PM
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andy_boy
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Why do you think The Hitlist was twenty minutes longer than almost every other ski movie last year? 1/16th Slow Motion, Baby!
Jul 24 2006 11:04PM
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*DrewT*
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The only reason MSP movies are popular is because they have good skiing. If they hadn't started out right at newschools skiings beginings they wouldn't stand a chance. Could you imagine how fucking boring their movies would be if the skiing wasn't ridiculous? They have a high budget so can afford good riders and to take them to exotic places. Just think of how good of a movie Berman could make with a budget like MSP's.

People where complaining about how short PYBs was but it probably has just as many skiing shots in it as the Hit List just shown 8 times faster with some filler thrown in to make it not all ski porn.

I've said this many times but Instead of making they're movies better, MSP trys to make everyone elses movies worse
Jul 25 2006 12:43AM
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pesja
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since after skimovie 3
Jul 25 2006 7:35AM
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SkierJulie
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MSP sucks since all the 12-year-olds on Newschoolers jumped on the hate bandwagon. If the right person/people came on here praising MSP, everyone would like them and their movies.
Jul 25 2006 11:07AM
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Girays_Brother
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^people can have their own opinion. it just so happens that alot of people hold the same opinion about msp... i hate msp because the guy who owns it is a greedy basterd, but most of all i hate it because everyone of their shots are slowed down below 50%, its boring, and its just not the style i like to watch of skiing.. so stop talking about this bullshit bandwagon stuff just because you still like msp
Jul 25 2006 11:10AM
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TwoPlankAdmin
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gotta give 'em props, as well as each and every other smaller company that fires up on a dream. not an easy game, and I think its awesome how much content is now readily available to us. also to see all of the diferent forms of creativity. keep up the good stuff! The Two Plank Crew
Jul 25 2006 11:14AM
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[~_~]
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are you joking? MSPs budget is fatter than Queen Latifa's contraceptive sponge.
Jul 25 2006 12:30PM
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highSPEEDchase
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i like them.

i am waiting to hear about specifics on their "horrible business practices" (that doesnt seem to go hand in hand with the claim "they have a huge budget"- a bit oxy moronic) and about their "shitty stuff they have done to other companies". until then, i will support them and after then will prolly still love their movies.
Jul 25 2006 12:48PM
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Mex_LineJib^a
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word
Jul 25 2006 12:57PM
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cobra_commander
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I am about to be hated by all of NS but i would like to point out that PBP movies have basicaly been the same for a while other then the fact that they are fallowing skiing out of the park and into the backcountry like the resto of ski films, but the editing has basicaly been the same. PBP and MSP are simmiler that if you took away the amazing skiing both of their movies would be really boaring, And Eric Hjorleifson is probly the best big mountain skier right now. Let the NS hate begin.
Jul 25 2006 1:18PM
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Flyhigh
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It sounds like Winters went over to the two plank crew's office and cut off their balls.
Jul 25 2006 1:46PM
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williams
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i bet "pull" will be better since the riders are editing it. maybe there will be no slowmo! ahha
Jul 25 2006 2:02PM
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max.
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yes
Jul 25 2006 3:10PM
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leninlover
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i agree cuz there movies are the same every year. they are good but they get boring fast and i dont want to support them
Jul 25 2006 3:41PM
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[~_~]
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They don't make it slow mo in editing, they film it in slow mo. aww Im a nerd
Jul 26 2006 9:32PM
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poofartpee
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i dont know maybe cause ur the only one that liked shit list but i did like every other movie they made thoe
Jul 26 2006 9:50PM
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St.Steezy
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since I didnt get a free t-shirt at one of their premiers. I was hurt msp.
Jul 26 2006 10:03PM
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GotamaBCshredder
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See this is what I am sick of, its total BS really. MSP films things amazingly well but you would never give them credit for that, there is no argument that they make good videos I mean if berman made that film you would say its awesome. Don't diss on something that doesn't deserve it. Crap on his business practices I don't care. But the films are damn good.
Jul 26 2006 10:48PM
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Pipe_Munky
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you guys can bash msp all you want. i noticed some of you said they put out the same movie every year and i ask doesn't everyone?

most film companies use the exact same angle shots every year giving you the same perspective while msp finds ways to do it differently via heli shots for park riding, cable cams, etc...

from what i can tell, msp's films are more of a work of art rather than the simple ski porn you see from most companies!

that's my opinion, bash it all you like!



Jul 26 2006 11:08PM
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slice_of_mustard
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because they do the same shots year after year, and they fucked tbc over probably because they knew tbc is way better than they will ever be. and now tbc cant make an awsome movie. its just an asshole thing to do.
plus the last thing they need is more money, money cant make your movies creative, and they obviously dont realise that. i dont like pbp much better anyway, its just that instead of fucking over smaller companies like msp, pbp helps them out.
so im never going to buy their shitty ass movies ever again, i want to steal or borrow my friends copy and put it on a bit tourrent thing so everyone can watch it for free without having give money to a bunch of assholes.
Jul 27 2006 3:24AM
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LINE169
Posts: 267 - Karma: 12
i agree with pipe_monkey. i was shocked to see that everyone all of a sudden hated msp. hit list was kind of lame on the skiing part of it, but msp is one of the earliest ski movie companies, cant just hate on them now.
Jul 27 2006 4:38AM
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Cham
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MSP movies are a mixed bag some segments blow my mind others i feel like blowing myself. And for all the people saying they dont like their business practices they are not a charity they are there to make money exactly like every other ski movie maker out there. If they are able to buy the music, the talent, the directors well tough shit thats business.
Jul 27 2006 5:09AM
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FuckThePolice
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msp sucks because they didint do everything in there power to keep seth morrison.
Jul 27 2006 5:36AM
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LDowney
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You have a knack for saying stupid things on a regular basis. If Berman made MSP's film it would be 15 minutes long because the movie wouldn't be shot at 1/4 speed. Most of the animosity towards MSP has little to do with Steve Winter's business practices, and everything to do with the fact that it takes incredible determination for many of us to sit through a film like that. I watch Bushie's seg in Hit List all the time because it has unparalleled shots, no questions asked. After that, I pop out the DVD until I feel like watching Bushfield again instead of expending the incredible effort it takes to drag through the rest of the flick.
Jul 27 2006 10:14AM
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GotamaBCshredder
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uhh what I am saying is no matter what msp does do its going to get thrashed on now because of its rep. And if Berman decided to make a video like that, it would probably be accepted as whats cool now, because everyone thinks berman is awesome. I happen to like slo mo plenty. Theres nothing wrong with it. Most of my posts are alot more thought out then the average post on NS. If you wanna talk about intelligent comments I'm pretty sure all I got from you last time we met was "Wanna smoke a bowl?", as you watched your photographer step out your inrun for you. Sounds intelligent to me.
Jul 27 2006 10:36AM
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LDowney
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HAHAHAHA. Yeah, I've already read a post of yours about this incident, which is actually what provoked me to comment about how FUCKING DUMB YOU ARE. Yeah, I am lazy and yeah I do smoke but when I offered you to smoke on a doobie I was trying to extend a favor to a gaper who actually introduced himself to me as "GotamaBCShredder from Newschoolers." As you and your Bush League Brosefs went up to hit Pyramid you somehow took this as an insult and posted your experience for the betterment the Newschoolers community. So how did that footy turn out, guy?
Jul 27 2006 11:04AM
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GotamaBCshredder
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Good thanks for asking. And I introduced myself as myself and then said I was GotamaBC on here because I messaged you about doing some skiing while we were in Utah. So you would make the connection. My BAD. Oh no I'm a gaper. I feel horrible.
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Jul 27 2006 11:11AM
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jksl
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you know, you really can't make a point like that...cause you know, i'm sure most people wouldn't like it just because berman made it. people like berman because of the style in which he makes his movies, if he changed his style that dramatically then i'm sure people would take notice and not enjoy it much because of how similar the style would be to MSP's movies, which the people you are takling to dislike.
but i guess i could see how you'd think that, i still find it stupid as hell though.
Jul 27 2006 11:15AM
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LDowney
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No problem there, Joe Bag. Just remember that you were the one who felt somehow obligated to inform all you internet friends that I was a stoner and a bad skier by association. Well, I don't come on here to make friends, Mormon Moe. I just enjoy talking shit about gapers like you and other things I dislike (such as MSP). How convenient that I found a thread where I can do both!
Jul 27 2006 11:36AM
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