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these are the 03/04 (i think) black and white version of the ski and they are tanks. i skied them for one season and they have typical cosmetic damage for a year but no base damage at all. these would be perfect for urbans especially considering these are tanks. they also come with a pair of marker 1000s which work but there is no brake on one of the bindings so i would recommend getting new bindings. im not including binding price with the ski so just send me some offers and ill see what i can do.