Actually I have to disagree with this review, no offense. I know the owner of Fate, and i ski with his kids. The clothes arent that great and it is kindof expensive. I dont know about 2002 models, but i had a moto jacket and a comp pants, and i would get really cold becaue it is just a shell that doesnt breathe, so you sweat alot in it. Also, the zippers break off easily. If i would choose clothes i would go with Sessions or I hear Oakley makes good clothes too. But sessions is definalty the best in my opinion.