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Papa
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it seems to me that within the last year or 2 all these small companies are popping up, to others it surprising, well that's how it seems to be looking at some of the other threads, but look at snowboarding i mean after a certain point of progression you have all the garage based companies poping up (forum, libtech, quantum) and any other small company., and i've seen people bitching that now there's to many comapnies and to much competition, it was going to happen, someone has a new idea or want something else that noone makes so they make there own, not to hard to do anymore. I think it's cool you have line, armada 4front and someone else was talkin about outlaws, this is the start of the progression, skiing is going to out number snowboarding again soon
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Mar 18 2003 12:15AM
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bigskia
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the problem w/ skiing's new companies in my opinion is that they can probably survive through kids wanting to look cool. yes i've heard great things about armada's even first hand but just about everyone who has them is buying them because a few pros joined together and made some skis. armada could probably have sold almost as many skis this year even if they were a piece of shit. anyways that's my rant

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Mar 18 2003 12:18AM
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Papa
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ya that's true, image is alot and who rides them has alot with how well they sell but all these 'underground' companies just show a new level of progression wich shows how much the sport has grown and is changing
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Mar 18 2003 12:20AM
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hotdog.garbage
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its too bad but you cant choose who you sell to. to make money, you sell skis to young kids so they can look cool.


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Mar 18 2003 12:36AM
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sirjibsalot
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Forum has been around forever...and there are so many snowboarding companies its ridiculouse...but they are cool..we have no cool ski companies...the only cool ski companies are Line armada, siver cartel, and jib culture...the rest is garbage....we dont have the selection of boards and clothing that snowboarding does.
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Mar 18 2003 1:18AM
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sirjibsalot
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Forum and libtech are not small companies at all
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Mar 18 2003 1:18AM
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Papa
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that's what i'm saying, all these new companies are awesome for more selection and gettng ski brands out
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Mar 18 2003 1:35AM
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LineBoarder
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Back to the thing before, about the guy who said that with the new ski companies, they could basically be selling crap, and people would buy them cause the 'pros' were riding on them. This could be true, but then again the pro's of this sport would never do that. This sport is to dedicated to its riders, its sick. Thats the one thing That I really love about this sport, is that its so pure. I mean, sure you have your shady stingy people who are just dicks to begin with, but you have that with everything in life. But I guess what I am trying to say is that The pro riders like that of tanner hall and boronowski in armada wouldn't ride crap, they wanna ride the best, and at the same time they wanna give the best, I wish for a cheaper cost, but I would rather give the money to a rider based company like that of Armada, or this new company 4front, but don't we all...




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Mar 18 2003 2:54AM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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I dont know about you guys but I like my Salomon skis I've been riding salomon for two seasons and I'm plenty happy with them. When the industry demo came to my resort I tried tons of different companies. all the skis I tried sucked. It doesnt matter to me how big a company is if they have good stuff I'll use it if not too bad for them I dont care if its Moseleys personal underwear If it stinks I won't use it.

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Mar 18 2003 8:14AM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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I dont know about you guys but I like my Salomon skis I've been riding salomon for two seasons and I'm plenty happy with them. When the industry demo came to my resort I tried tons of different companies. all the skis I tried sucked. It doesnt matter to me how big a company is if they have good stuff I'll use it if not too bad for them I dont care if its Moseleys personal underwear If it stinks I won't use it.

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Mar 18 2003 8:15AM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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I would never buy Soloman skis just because they care more about racers and old middle aged business men than newschoolers... the only reason they make twin tips is to grab cash from us. They dont care where or how this movement goes. And I'm not just talking about Soloman, but almost all of the big companies.
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Mar 18 2003 1:41PM
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bigskia
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not to mention salomon must pay a lot to sponsor all of their pros.

does anyone else besides me have fantasies about being in a back while it gets robbed and then getting dragged into the vault, getting raped and then getting locked in there to die? - alpentalik
do everynight alpentalik,but when they rape me,im lying face down in a pile of crisp 50's and 100's – lateralis
hey you guys are kinda creepy, but my english isnt so great so i might be missing something - ridelesdiablerets
no... youre not missing anything... - anewmorning
Mar 18 2003 2:23PM
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freezed
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salomon made the first twin tips...



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Mar 18 2003 2:24PM
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Jib_This
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Yeah, Salomon made the first twin tip, not Olin in the 70s, and forget about the K2 Poacher...


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Mar 18 2003 2:28PM
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alpentalik
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forget the poacher? forget you!


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Mar 18 2003 2:45PM
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five0
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what about line..isnt the womens carving ski due out next year? doesnt look like theyre so set on newshooling anymore
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Mar 18 2003 3:15PM
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mommy
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isnt burgerking making snowboards now?
Mar 18 2003 3:21PM
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Dallan!
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I think its good for us skiers that its poping up new companys so more skiers can get there names out.
cuz when u look in a skiing magazine there are like 20 pros that are in the same mag over and over again look in a snowboard mag and u can see like 30 new guys every time
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Mar 18 2003 3:29PM
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linefreerider
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five-o, yes line is comin out with a carving ski next year, actually 8. and they are doin that becuz they need the $$$. us twin tippers only make up about 10% of the whole skiing population, so line cant support themsleves with just twin tips. i dont neccesarily agree with the idea,but i kno hwere they r comin frum. they will still focus on skiers like us, but they will also have all mtn. skis. they are also supposed to be the molds frum volkls.
Mar 18 2003 4:55PM
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OReJow
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the molds are from blizzard i heard, not volkl. not that it matters. the skis will likley still be very gay.

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Mar 18 2003 5:01PM
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Itsbackfliptime
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a line carving ski would probably be the most kickass carving ski out there.

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Mar 18 2003 5:10PM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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I was talking to a shop owner who was looking into getting solomon twins. They wouldn't sell them to him unless he bought carving, racing, womens and kids skis too. Plus he had to buy their boots and bindings... Still don't believe me?
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Mar 18 2003 5:17PM
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OReJow
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'carving' ski is the industries latest euphamism for 'recreational' ski. they use this new word so that people who ski like pussies (no need for a twin-tip, not strong enough for a race ski, not adventurous enough for a midfat, or powder ski) don't have to feel like pussies when they go to the shop to buy new skis. cause now they don't have to say they need a rec ski. they want carving skis. yeah! carving! i'm good at turning!

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Mar 18 2003 5:21PM
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LineBoarder
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yeah thats so gay that u have to buy career all the salomon goods in order to carry their twins. fuck big corporations




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Mar 18 2003 5:41PM
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SNOWMAN17
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Exactly fuck big corps., everybody is saying that most rider owned companies r gonna go out of business, not unless we all realize its the future of our sport and support it, theres many rider owned companies comin out of no where, 4frnt armada siver th3 plehouse outlaw.....everyone needs to support these companies, yeah armadas may b exspensive..so buy a hat from them, if everybody on the forum gave a little to each rider owned companies, freeskiing would be recognized more and in 5 years armada may b bigger than rossignol and may b even competing with burton, support rider owned companies

me: pepsi twist taste the exact same as normal pepsi.
my friend: no it doesnt , it has a twist.
Mar 18 2003 6:00PM
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OReJow
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outlaw?

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Mar 18 2003 6:04PM
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SNOWMAN17
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ive seen drawings of graphics on this site but i didnt know someone was starting a company and making them, the guy said it in the first post so im going by what he said

me: pepsi twist taste the exact same as normal pepsi.
my friend: no it doesnt , it has a twist.
Mar 18 2003 6:30PM
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OReJow
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oh, ok. a lot of people on this site make ski graphcs (including me) i'd be surprised to find out any are actuall companies. you never know though. there might be some kids out there who can actually do it.

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Mar 18 2003 6:52PM
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alpentalik
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wasn't east coast pride or somebody starting one somehow or something...something.


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Mar 18 2003 6:54PM
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Jib_This
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Anyone else realize how unhealthy the freestyle ski industry is, especially when compared to the snowboard industry?


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Mar 18 2003 8:03PM
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auntsaltine
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What about headmad trix are they any good of skis???????
Mar 18 2003 8:08PM
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OReJow
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that's a little off topic, no? short answer, yes. longer answer, go search for the many other threads about them.

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Mar 18 2003 8:25PM
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skifree919
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To the people who are talking about how they dont like salomon making shops buy all the equipment, I like salomon skis but don't like that idea. My solution...I bought my salomons on ebay
Mar 18 2003 9:15PM
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SNOWMAN17
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i dont think every ski shop could buy some off ebay, so ur solution sucks

me: pepsi twist taste the exact same as normal pepsi.
my friend: no it doesnt , it has a twist.
Mar 18 2003 9:30PM
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skifree919
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Hey im no ski shop, im just talking to the single people who want salomon skis but don't like the idea, also they are very cheap on ebay. I got mine for 250 slightly used
Mar 19 2003 10:34PM
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Roussel
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salomon didnt make the first twin tips, the first twins were skiboards
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Mar 19 2003 10:37PM
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skiinjected
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ya thats ture. y would u want to buy a twintip that is made by a major company(salomon) thAT only has some rider imput on the ski. these rider owned companies realized that the major companies were not making the ski exactly how they wanted it. in the rider owned companies the skis are built around its riders, therefor the ski fits more of our needs and wont have as many problems like delam..and so on. the companies are building there skis better than ever, there becoming more industrictable with less problems like the major companies have.



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Mar 19 2003 10:51PM
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kevywevy
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i don't know if anybody has said this, because i was too lazy to read the whole thread, but the more competition there is between ski componies the better it is for the consumers. it means cheaper skis and forces new technology to be put into the skis. look at the new line binding. once line fixes it i think it will really catch on. people will buy more than one pair of their skis because the bindings are interchange able. the only bad thing about this idea is that if all the companies start doing this, it will force you to buy the bindings that the ski company makes or that they have a contract with the binding comapny


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Mar 19 2003 11:07PM
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SNOWMAN17
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exactly and the more ski companies compete for twin tips the bigger the freeskiing scene gets and then more companies come up and before u know it skiing rules the park and snowboardings not 'cool' ne more

me: pepsi twist taste the exact same as normal pepsi.
my friend: no it doesnt , it has a twist.
Mar 19 2003 11:10PM
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