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rockymountainmilitia
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what the fuck is happening. if the USA goes to war against Iraq, the world as we know it is gonna come crashing down. I don't even understand why the US people are allowing there President to drag them into hell. Some girl in my class today said the war was justified because they were going over to fight for freedom. I laughed, but I realized she was dead serious and wanted to throw my book at the back of her head. Who felt Saddam was threatening them when the US announced war. I can tell you I was shivering in my boots. I thought for sure Sadamwas gonna drop some chemical on my house, thank god for the US for protecting me. FUCK THE US AND FUCK THE BRITISH. Bush needs to take care of his alcoholic daughters or maybe the US's drowning economy before he decides to start a world war. Saddam has alerted all muslims to fight against the US and its supporters, so we can expect blowen up buses and destroyed subways on a weekly occasion. The reason i'm pissed, is that I am just graduating highschool, I want to go travelling and no where is safe. Oh yeah and we can also expect the UN to dissolve and for the next many years watch different countries stalk up weapons till we push the line to far and we all die. Lets all thank Bush for ruining our lives.
sacrifice, to some its just a word, to others it is a code, what matters is the colony, he is willing to live for the colony, fight for the colony, die for the colony.

Mar 10 2003 11:30PM
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alpentalik
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ok, im scared...are you a terrorist?


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Mar 10 2003 11:48PM
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DFT1080
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im really sorry that your opinion sucks so bad.


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Mar 11 2003 12:15AM
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TAK
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I love that image of Hussien floating like a magic fairy above the States, just droping weapons on Yanks almost as much as I love that fact that the Taliban has/had five jets. Hows useless those would be against the U.S. Granted they would be so stupid as to but them to use them against the Americans, but can you imagine? 5 shitty Taliban jets verus seven U.S. aircrft-carriers. Amazes me very much.
Mar 11 2003 12:22AM
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TAK
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Amuzes me rather, just like threads like this.
Mar 11 2003 12:27AM
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andyrightcoast
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'im really sorry that your opinion sucks so bad.'

Haha, I agree with that :-) Your opinion is based off of the national inquirer or something.

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Mar 11 2003 12:41AM
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Ski-hobo
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Good point TAK, it is funny how we are at war against a bunch of Terroist with out of date AK 47's, and the US has to purchase new billion dollar jets.
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Mar 11 2003 1:16AM
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PhattTim
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must suck to spend all that money and still be wrong

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Mar 11 2003 3:13AM
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lineskier10
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yeah you have problems, so much for being all anti violence and then throwing your book at someones head, but oh well
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Mar 11 2003 9:33AM
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rockymountainmilitia
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my opinion is extreme, but when the league of nations failed to work WW2 started. Now that the US is disobeying the global community and the UN whos to say this isn't gonna be WW3. The US has alot of enemies in the middle east. and alot of them feel threatened, by the US's attack on Iraq. This is no freedom fight, its all about OIL. Alot of those middle east countries have oil and there pretty fuckin scared there next. If you are relying on the US news for the full story your getting bullshit propaganda. Try to find a link to the news channel Algazira (sp) I watched it in Social and it showed some pretty crazy pictures of the US bombing hospitals and public places in Afganistan. It also has interviews with othwer countries and basically paints an entirley different picture than the news we get here in Canada and the US.
sacrifice, to some its just a word, to others it is a code, what matters is the colony, he is willing to live for the colony, fight for the colony, die for the colony.

Mar 11 2003 12:32PM
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MadTrixter
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people like you piss me off. you're too damn hardheaded to look at the facts. saddam is a crazy bastard that is willing to use his nukes the second he is able to. the US, and canada for that matter, would be in a shitload of danger if we just let him go. this is not about oil. how is going in there and bombing the shit out of them gonna help us get some cheap oil? since when did oil become cheaper as more and more drilling sites could be destroyed? i'm not gonna rant on and on about the same fucking thing i say in all the other 1000's of war threads.

oh yea, just a little though; do you actually think gore would have done any better?


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Mar 11 2003 2:12PM
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abubboo
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i wonder if you realize that the missiles that the USA are forcing Iraq to disarm have a range of less than 200km. i don't think saddam is about to bomb us any time soon because last time i checked the atlantic ocean is a little more than 200km wide.
Mar 11 2003 2:18PM
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MadTrixter
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you don't think it's possible for the iraqi soldiers to fly planes or sail ships?


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Mar 11 2003 2:20PM
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abubboo
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and it's not about the amount of oil, it's about the control of the oil. the US gov't officially said they want a regime change in iraq. ie. a government that will be a bitch to the US's demands.
Mar 11 2003 2:20PM
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Ha ha, the shitty U.S. wont get their way anyhow.

UNITED NATIONS, March 11 — Amid reports that Iraq had forced the suspension of U.S. surveillance flights, the United States and its allies backed off calling for a U.N. vote Tuesday on giving Iraqi President Saddam Hussein an ultimatum to disarm or face a military invasion. Instead, they scrambled to shore up support in the Security Council by offering to negotiate both the deadline and other changes to the resolution.

A new opinion poll on Tuesday showed only 19 percent of Britons support war in Iraq without a U.N. mandate and members of Blair’s ruling Labor Party are itching to defy him if he offers parliament a vote ahead of unilateral military action.

Ha ha! Iraq FORCED a stoppage of surveilance flights. The U.S. is now considering compromises. Who's the bitch now? Go Saddam Go. Bush is a national embarrasment. Where's all the tough talk now? Too bad its illegal to go to war without the U.N. and Bush could be tried as a war criminal. Thems the bricks.
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Mar 11 2003 2:35PM
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andyrightcoast
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You're so fucking stupid. You copy pasted a snippit of an article and completly misinterprited it.
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Mar 11 2003 2:42PM
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How do you interpret it then smartguy? Enlighten me o wise Andy. Seems pretty straightforward to me. And yes its copy pasted, from an American news source which go to extreme lenghts to only tell the American side of the story unless, like in this case, there is no way to hide the truth. I therfore feel it is very accurate.
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Mar 11 2003 3:11PM
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alpentalik
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WHERE'S THE LOVE?


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Mar 11 2003 4:13PM
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Ski-hobo
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Im sure more Brits would be for this war if they had two 1200 foot buildings destroyed.
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Mar 11 2003 4:26PM
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SUpilot
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i hate youthinasia's icon almost as much as i hate lagwagon.
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Mar 11 2003 4:36PM
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hell I hate my icon. Thats one ugly dude.
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Mar 11 2003 4:49PM
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Ds91260
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the only reason america sucks is because a ton of us are fatties, u cant go anywhere in the US without seeing fat people
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Mar 11 2003 5:59PM
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bigskia
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that's because everyone plays sports when they're young and then stop suddenly so their muscle and energy jack up and make them fat


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Mar 11 2003 6:02PM
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Ds91260
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and because less mothers are brestfeeding and their kids are becoming worthless pieces of shit that dont ever do ne thing, i bet we're (the US) the only country that has babies (under the age of 3) that weigh 100+ lbs, except for all the third world countries out there that have kids suffering and dying of malnurishment(sp)
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Mar 11 2003 6:06PM
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vegabond
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just so you know, this war has nothing to do with the US. they have missle protection. na war weapons can hurt them. but half congress is jewish, and last timne i checked, isreal was about 200km away from iraq. so u decide why they want them to disarm.

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Mar 11 2003 10:02PM
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Ski-hobo
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blaming it on the Jews huh?
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Mar 11 2003 10:04PM
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vegabond
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its been done.

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Mar 11 2003 10:05PM
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andyrightcoast
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lol, Half of congress is not Jewish.... far from it dude.

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Mar 11 2003 10:32PM
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SUpilot
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yeah america isnt that shitty...
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Mar 11 2003 10:34PM
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altaholic
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rockymountain, WWII didn't start because the League of Nations failed, it started because Hitler was a psychopath with visions of world domination. Sadaam may not be trying to take over the world, but he sure as hell wants to exhert his influence far beyond Kuwait's borders, and he's a homicidal dictator who gave his two sons 9mm's on Qusay's 15th birthday and took them to a prison and had them each execute a guy. I don't think right now is the time to go to war either, but it isn't Bush who's going to ruin our lives, its people like Sadaam Hussein and Osama bin Ladan

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Mar 11 2003 10:46PM
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Capurnicus
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Fuck de la Fuck du fuck fuck fuck de fuck.
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Mar 11 2003 10:48PM
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rockymountainmilitia
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I didn't mean Saddam was like Hitler. Bush is like Hitler. He is the figure head defying the UN. Saddam is also not obeying but the US is pushing to go without UN resolution. Its funny how he thinks he is so tough, but the world isn't gonna be to nice to him when he goes up for war crimes. I like Americans I just hate their president.
sacrifice, to some its just a word, to others it is a code, what matters is the colony, he is willing to live for the colony, fight for the colony, die for the colony.

Mar 11 2003 10:57PM
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MadTrixter
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the saying 'history repeats itsself' sure is true. you'd think we would have learned the first time around (hitler's era) that there are some crazy bastards out there who won't hesitate to kill millions of people. but no, nobody understands that. they just blame it on the US. i mean shit, if it wasn't for the US this world would be so much better right? wrong. what would have happened if the US wasn't around to create the first nuclear warhead? what if germany actually created the first nuke? i'll tell you what would have happened. we would all be speaking german right now.


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Mar 11 2003 11:07PM
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rockymountainmilitia
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madtrixx the US had the war won before they dropped the nuke, it was unneccesary and it killed alot of fuckin people. Are you that arrogant that you think your country can do no wrong. Well you done alot of horrible things which has wrecked alot of hsit. For one Canadians have crazy tariffs put on soft wood lumber bought by the states yet if we do anyhting to you we will get shit on. Watch Bowling for Columbine, the movie shows some of the great things the US has done to benifit the global community. seriously I don't mean to reem you, canadians are almost as arrogant as americans when it comes to realizing the world needs help. We to think were great, we just don't push others arund.
sacrifice, to some its just a word, to others it is a code, what matters is the colony, he is willing to live for the colony, fight for the colony, die for the colony.

Mar 11 2003 11:27PM
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pag
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rockymountain got it right for some thing like the cnn and aljazeira cnn is just bullshit propaganda and aljazeira too... but I think just both sucks...

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Mar 11 2003 11:30PM
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pag
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and this is true that us are controllet by a lot of jewish... this is why they backup israel that much and they don't give a place to palestinians...
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Mar 11 2003 11:36PM
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jarossamdb7
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when I'm old enough and possibly done with collage (if I end up going to one in the US) and if Bush does bomb Iraq, I'm moving to Canada or Hong Kong or New Zealand (if they will let me it...) or Austrailia or Italy, or Japan, for the soul perpuse of not paying for this fucking war.

those^ are the countries that I would not mind liveing in that are not assholes like the US

and ya Hong Kong isn't a country but you as a person can still do whatever the fuck you want to in terms of buisness and such. and I don't think you pay barly any tax.

I heard a thing on the radio that was talking about how it is gonna cost the US a lot even after the war to re build Iraq because nobody will wanna envest in it and shit...

also the thing to ensure that people won't hate me (that is right won't) I will (possibly) wear a shirt with a upside down flag on it to show that I am not a asshole that doesn't care (such is the perception of most americans by people who live in other places you see).

well I probably wouldn't do that last part because unless people start hating me on a wide scale because I am american. and honestly I don;t HATE this country THAT much. it is a very nice place to live I just think that is Bush goes on with this war many people will become ashaimed to call themselves americans because pther people will start to hate us more than ever before.



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Mar 11 2003 11:47PM
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jarossamdb7
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i have said this before and I'll say it now.

I find it stupid, ignorant, and arogant, that we do not appily the rules that wich we appily to other countries, to ourselves.



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Mar 12 2003 2:03AM
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Phrosty
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ok, if themuslims start trying shit like that we will come crashing down on them with an iron fist. i personally would beat the shit out of every towel headed asshole i saw.


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Mar 12 2003 2:16AM
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Ski-hobo
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yeah, the only way to control terrorism if with fear
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Mar 12 2003 2:28AM
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PhattTim
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Skihobo, you're a fucking moron. What does Saddam have to do with two 1200 foot buildings? You retard! Andy had as much to do with the bombing of the world trade center as he did! fag!

And it's got nothing to do with 'cheaper oil' it's about control, fuck some of you cunts are dumb, why don't you just shut your stupid ass mouths. You'd get laughed out of any lecture hall if you even spoke most of this shit, damn!

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Mar 12 2003 4:27AM
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Jib_This
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some interesting stuff being posted, and some really ignorant stuff. First off, I REALLY need to agree with phattim on this one: There is absolutely ZERO evidence that Iraq had ANYTHING to do with the horrible terrorist attacks on the world trade center. But phattim, I'm not sure you're right when you say that this war has nothing to do with oil. Here's two articles to back me up on that:
alternet's_13_myths_about_war

Obviously_Oil

Remember: Both of these articles are from a left-of-center online news service, and I'd be lying if I said there wasn't any bias present, although to be fair, cnn, msnbc and wherever else you probably usually get your news is just as biased, if not more, only it's less visible to someone who doesn't spend a lot of time studying mass media. The second one is interesting, as it's written by a US Congressman who is seeking the next Democratic Presidential Nomination. None of this will change anyone's mind on what's going on, but it might open up some eyes and shine a different light on the conflict. Enjoy.


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Mar 12 2003 5:08AM
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flexmacman
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rockymountain knows what he's talking about. Almost all of you have been brain washed on these issues.{that's the mainstream media doin' it's job}It's about money=oil.Approx. 1.5 years ago, Iraq changed it's oil currency from USdollars to Euro$.You see, when USdollar is the oil currency,the US just printed shitloads,shitloads, of cash to pay for the oil..so...more or less...it was FREE...but..the US can't print Euros..they have to borrow or buy it...So now they have to pay a MASSIVE amount of money to Iraq for oil. The US dollar has been going down and the Euro has been going up = US losing in %'s and intrest. + To top it all off , the US government is broke. I think the defecit is 6,500,000,000,000,000= six trillion,five hundred billion dollars That's fuckin' unreal...US has lost most of is manufacturing to other nations{k2}.So americans had to buy more and more products once made in the USA from companies in other nations.This has created the present day $1.5 BILLION a DAY trade deficit..The US goverment has found itself soooo deep in debt it can't even make the intrest payments......unable to sell products to generate revenue to pay that debt because manufacturing was taxed into relocating,and a threatened collapse of the dollar that would force defalt on the debt and ruin the standard of living Americans had worked so hard to achieve.

From that perspective,a war of conquest to grab oil and to force the conquered nations to use the US dollar to keep demand for the dollar high.....sadly....that looks like the best option for the bankrupted US government........it sucks.
But don't trust me LOOK INTO THIS SHIT FOR YOURSELF........don't allow them to jus feed it to you...because that's what they want....the government thinks your all MUSHROOMS....they keep you in the dark,an'keep feeding you SHIT.
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Mar 12 2003 10:03AM
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jarossamdb7
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I'll need confermation on this but doesn;t Bush own oil rights someware near or in Iraq? so he would make a lot of $$$ if this is true...



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Mar 12 2003 1:33PM
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andyrightcoast
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' Andy had as much to do with the bombing of the world trade center as he did! fag! '

watch it tim, they might be WATCHING

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Mar 12 2003 2:31PM
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freerider256
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This whole ordeal is not based around oil. Some of it is most likely linked to oil BUT NOT ALL. The fact is Saddam is a brutally cruel dictator. The things that he does to his people, are unbelievable. He has built forts, and artillery sheds next to schools and hospitals, so when the US bombs them strategically he can claim civilian casualties. He has ordered 10,000 or so british and us army uniforms, so he can dress his soldiers up looking like us and video tape them slaughtering HIS OWN PEOPLE, while conveniently being filmed by the biased arab press. Not to mention he uses people from all over the world, ie Europe, US, and probably Canada, as human shields. This type of thing would never have been stood for in the past. Were talking close to the same league as Slobadan Milosavic, and Pol Pot. Not quite genocide, but he is ready and willing to slaughter his own people. This is just one part though. The nuclear and biochemical is a whole other story. Saddam has been given 12 freakin years since the end of Desert Storm to disarm COMPLETELY. Has he? NO! He still has Scuds left over which can and will be used to spread bio chem weapons to Israel in the event of attack. We and the UN have given him extension upon extension for him to disarm and he continues to disobey. Another part: his link to terrorism. Less we forget that he has been linked to Al Qaeda and various other organizations involved with terrorism all over the world not just on the US. That right there is enough to go in there and disarm. Oil probably also has to do with it somewhat but it is not the overlying theme for which the United States wants to invade Iraq. This is true b/c if we do in fact invade Iraq, and win which we almost certainly will, Saddam has been stockpiling explosives all over his oil wells. When he goes down so will all the oil, all 1500 wells, compared to the 700 we had to put out in Kuwait. This guy is not a just ruler, the things that he is doing, aren't right and should be corrected, most measured have been exhausted invading is the only thing left.


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Mar 12 2003 8:42PM
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freerider256
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The things that i just said ARE facts, a lot of which have come from the past few weeks of TIME and NEWSWEEK


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Mar 12 2003 8:43PM
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PhattTim
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No they aren't 'facts', they're someone elses opinions that you perceive as fact, it's still just someone else like you stating what they think, not fact.

And Jib_This. I didn't ever say that it has nothing to do with oil, I think it has everything to do with oil, in some ways.

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Mar 12 2003 9:22PM
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wrenegade
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nice, we have got someone who knows what the're talking about. i agree almost completely.

congrats man


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Mar 12 2003 9:24PM
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abubboo
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madd trixx, do you think that iraqi soldiers will be able to fly planes or sail boats across the atlantic, much less out of their country, while carrying nuclear warheads, w/o being noticed? that's why there is such a thing as patrolling airspace and having coast guards.... among other things like maybe the military and CIA, just in case.
Mar 12 2003 10:44PM
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Jib_This
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My apologies to Phatttim for misreading his post. As for whatever else has been written since I last posted, I really don't feel like arguing with people who don't realize that their 'facts' come from some of the most biased, partisan news sources in the world. But I will state this again, because I think it's important to remember: Iraq had NOTHING to do with the terrible terrorist attacks on September 11th. NOTHING. Any American who uses those attacks as justification for war with Iraq is not only wrong, but is desecrating the memories of that horrible day. If you're one of those Americans, you should be ashamed of yourself.


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