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Canada and the rest of the world....
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i think its time that we look at how fucked up other countries are not just america its getting old hearing the same old shit over and over again about how america is stupid, or out of place. you know what i don't support the war but i support america over places like France and Germany who are selling weapons to Iraq. what about them? i think they are doing more harm then america right now over in the middle east
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oh yeah one more point FUCK CANADA!
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okay... im getting tired of this shit. really, americains and canadians are the same people, come on! Im canadian and i think americans are cool, so wtf? its only you have a few more.. uneducated people, but thats inevitabe in any country more than 100 mil, which Canada isnt.
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oh yeah one more point: FUCK YOU
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i beleive in response to these moving and poignant words, which were obviously composed with much thought and care, i find it appropriate to quote one of the foremost and recognizable philosophers of our time when i say, 'i could smoke an ounce to that, g's up hoes down whiole ya'll mutha f@#$as bounce ta that' - calvin brodus.
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and..what the fucare you talking about? Germany and France selling weapons to Iraq? er.... were allies, hello, ook up whatthe U.N is in a encyclopedia ad then if ou ant to see your picture look up dick, asshole, and ignorant motherfucker.
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fucking canadians don't know shit you haven't heard huh? they don't want us to go to war with iraq because they are making money selling weapons to them
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if that were true, the age old economic principles of s&d would come into play... wouldnt france & germany prefer a situation in which the demand for the weapons were high? thus increasing sales of said weapons? i dont think your all to right about that one... common sense says no.
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by the way, Germany has not been permitted to have an army or have weapons until last year, because they caused both world wars. Tis restriction has been lifted BECAUSE the U.N considered Germany trustworthy, and after THOROUGH inspection of germany territories. ok, then they would have to hd built these missiles theyre selling in less than a year, and since noby can produce missiles wthout being detected by grand America's satellites (b/c they release heat waves), that would be suicide, b/c evryones knows they wouldnt last a second against U.S. Plus, they are now the third biggest industrial power in the world. Do you think they need another war to destroy them? And as for France, theyre rich enough, trust me, they wouldnt do that. And dont try to contradict this, we discussed this in political geography.
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this is stupid, get your facts right other than using rumors as evidence before you start a thread like this
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Hey, the US only has more uneducated people because of the Chinese and Meixan immigrants that pour into our country each and ever day. Oh, and because of white trash in the South, ..damn I hate the south, whenever I watch cops I wish that the South won the Civil war so they could have their own country full of trailor parks and rodeos.
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Tis not rumor folks, check it out here.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_8-3-2003_pg4_4
Iraq strengthens air force with French parts
By Bill Gertz
WASHINGTON:A French company has been selling spare parts to Iraq for its fighter jets and military helicopters during the past several months, according to US intelligence officials.
The unidentified company sold the parts to a trading company in the United Arab Emirates, which then shipped the parts through a third country into Iraq by truck. The spare parts included goods for Iraq’s French-made Mirage F-1 jets and Gazelle attack helicopters.
An intelligence official said the illegal spare-parts pipeline was discovered in the past two weeks and that sensitive intelligence about the transfers indicates that the parts were smuggled to Iraq as recently as January.
Other intelligence reports indicate that Iraq had succeeded in acquiring French weaponry illegally for years, the official said.
The parts appear to be included in an effort by the Iraqi military to build up materiel for its air forces before any US military action, which could occur before the end of the month.
The officials identified the purchaser of the parts as the Al Tamoor Trading Co., based in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. A spokesman for the company could not be reached for comment.
The French military parts were then sent by truck into Iraq from a neighboring country the officials declined to identify. Iraq has more than 50 Mirage F-1 jets and an unknown number of Gazelle attack helicopters, according to the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies.
An administration official said the French parts transfers to Iraq may be one reason France has so vehemently opposed US plans for military action against Iraq. “No wonder the French are opposing us,” this official said.
The official, however, said intelligence reports of the parts sale did not indicate that the activity was sanctioned by the French government or that Paris knows about the transfers.
The Mirage F-1 was made by France’s Dassault Aviation. Gazelle helicopters were made by Aerospatiale, which later became part of a consortium of European defense companies. The importation of military goods by Iraq is banned under UN Security Council resolutions passed since the 1991 Persian Gulf war.
Nathalie Loiseau, press counselor at the French Embassy, said her government has no information about the spare-parts smuggling and has not been approached by the US government about the matter. “We fully comply with the UN sanctions, and there is no sale of any kind of military material or weapons to Iraq,” she said. A CIA spokesman had no comment.
A senior administration official declined to discuss Iraq’s purchase of French warplane and helicopter parts. “It is well known that the Iraqis use front companies to try to obtain a number of prohibited items,” the official said.
The disclosure comes amid heightened anti-French sentiment in the United States over Paris’ opposition to US plans for using force to disarm Iraq. —TWT
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Ahhh, the luxurious taste of our anti-intellectual caviar; Hate.
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$1080PLP$ you are fucking retarded. canada doesnt have weapons to sell to iraq. Canada doesnt want to go to war with Iraq because Chretien and most of the liberal party are spineless leftist bitches.
Canadians as a whole are actually nice people, who over all, are a lot smarter than you ignorant type americans.
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I didn't read that whole shpeal on France selling weapons to iraq.... so forgive me.
Iraq and France have an oil for weapons agreement and france is enjoyinh it very much. That is why they won't go to war. Also, for what that dumbass said about S&D and common sense. Lets see here. Last Gulf war took 43 days... and now, iraq is less powerfull with the same weapons, USA on the otherhand has advanced 10 years in its weapons... the war will take a week or two... and that is not enough for the whole S&D thing... USE COMMON SENSE, dumbass.
Oh, and by the way, I am Canadian... but Jean Chretien is a wuss... and his pussy government reflects poorly on Canada.
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France and Russia are also owed a lot of back payments from the current Iraqi regime (In the tens of billions combined). Just a thought, but that might be a factor on why they dont want a war.
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we (the U.S.) sold weapons and aided saddam in his rise to power in iraq and during his 9 year war with iran; was he any less 'evil' back then?
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If any country is to blame for arming Iraq in the first place, it's the US. Don't talk shit unless you REALLY know what's going on. And 'fuck Canada'??? It's due to statements like that that most of the world judges the average American to be an ignorant, racist redneck who likes to shoot guns and drink crappy beer.
I'm also reminded of a statement that went something along the lines of 'the only thing more dangerous than an ignorant fool is an ignorant fool armed with a slight amount of information'. I forget where that's from, and it's not a direct quote, but it's applicable to the person that started this thread. Don't be a moron, and don't post shit like 'fuck Canada' on NS. I'm sure there's a Republican Party website for that crap.
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i never said canada sold weapons to iraq dumb fuck and again this thread is another example of canadian ignorance
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You're right, you didn't. It's a good thing I didn't either;)
You did, however, forget to mention the MILLIONS of dollars worth of weapons the US sold to Iraq, not to mention the help with their 'weapons of mass destruction' program(The US didn't like Iran at that time, and Iraq was all about gassing them, convenient eh?). What about arming and helping to organize Bin Laden and his boys? Forgot about that too, or just didn't know?...but why use examples that don't fit into your argument(or makes your country look as bad as the others...)?? Do you really want me to get into it? As for 'Canadian ignorance', I thought that was an oxymoron, but I was proven wrong by a couple of people who wrote earlier on in this thread. Still, before posting stuff like 'fuck Canada' on NS, consider where your money goes when you donate to newschoolers.com.
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Ok first off it was 7 years, 1983-1990... maybe not even really that long. Actually, that's a pretty shitty point on my part. The US was afraid of Iran's islamic fundamentalism and basically needed Saddam and Iraq to curb that threat. So yea Rumsfeld had met w/ Sadamm in 83 to sell them chemical and biological cultures. And he was gassing Kurds and Iranians in 85.
The answer to the question above was, was he any less evil? No of course not. We were being very opportunist (like usual). But here's the problem w/ the logic. Should we just continue w/ our past trend and ignore that. The same people who don't want us to disarm Saddam by war are citing examples of how his heinous actions before weren't curbed by the US and THAT's why we shouldn't take action. That's just ridiculous.
And now with the France thing possibly exposed, and similar stuff with the Russians and Germans. That's 3 out of the 4 major oppositional UN factions. So now the argument that UN support isn't there for action to be taken seems kind of tenuous.
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many american weapons are made in canada but financed by america...canada just has cheap labour cause were poor. ....ooo so canada is technically stocking americans with the weapons so they can go kill people....damn, we're worse then germany and france.
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$1080PLP$ : fucking canadians don't know shit you haven't heard huh? they don't want us to go to war with iraq because they are making money selling weapons to them
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jibs: which weapons are these, and where and by who are these weapons being built?
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What the fuck is 'Iraq', is that like a country or something.
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whoever said what makes america dumb is the immigrants is the biggest dumbest american of them all. first of all, Canada's population grows each year only because of these so-called dumb immigrants. they are the ones that make our GDP and economy way more healthy than that of the USA. Interesting, since the US has way tougher immigration laws and much less immigrants entering their country each year. And secondly, the US alway steals eastern methods of business practices. ie. management and technology from japanese companies. they aren't so dumb afterall, idiot.
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The ILLEGAL immigrants. Their the ones who are dumb. And he said from CHINA, not japan. I don't think we're taking chinese business practices.
Another thing, please stop stereotyping Americans. Saying all Americans are ignorant and stupid is the most assanine statement I've ever heard of. With the huge population we have, sure we're bound to have stupid people. But to stereotype an entire country makes yourself ignorant.
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There is currently 5 million illegal Mexicans in The U.S. also the Americas weapon selling went on alot longer then you think like 60 company were doing it until the year 2000
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there is a time when you just get tired to arguing with ignorante people and this is this time
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hahahah. that's funy because you're the ignorant shit $1080PLP$
everyone but you has facts your just talk
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i have facts to but i don't feel like wasting my time on this site to prove to retared people like you that i know what i'm talking about
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so instead of using your 'facts' you spit out useless garbage and expect others to respect your opinion and then call them ignorant. hhhmmm...?
BACON (receiving a monstrous, leafy cocktail)
What's that?
SAMOAN JO
A cocktail, you asked for a cocktail.
BACON
No, I asked you to give me a refreshing drink. I wasn't expecting a
fucking rainforest; you could fall in love with an orang-atang in that.
Shut up phrosty - The rest of the world percieves the average american to be dumb, stupid and a redneck because of that exact attitude – Schlonigator
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its people like you that made this site go to shit, you don't even know what i'm talking about, i have pages upon pages of facts of UN alies selling weapon recently to iraq. i really don't feel like repeating the facts or even taking the time to post them if you are soo interested in proving me wrong go look up the shit
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Yes, anyone who's trying to keep up with what's going on knows about those documents/allegations. Did you know that Iraq has been buying weapons from countries who shouldn't be selling to them for an extremely long time, and that they do it through front companies and have to smuggle them in because importation of weapons is illegal under the UN sanctions crippling them? Did you know that a reporter recently got into Saddam Hussein's email, and that most of it was emails from American companies exploring business opportunities with Iraq? Did you know that America was recently found to be SPYING on UN Security Council members that were undecided on whether or not to vote yes on a new UN resolution authorizing war on Iraq? Did you know that being American and pretending to be morally superior to the Euro countries unwittingly selling arms to Iraq is hypocritical because the US is the single biggest reason Iraq had biological/chemical weapons? I could go on but I really don't feel like making you look like the stereotypical, uneducated, ignorant American.
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crawl back into your canadian hole and fuck your self let put it this way forign countries are making money off selling wepones, yes. america has been known to sell wepons to iraq, yes. but when we want to get rid of thoes wepons and stop giving them to iraq who says no because they are making profits off selling wepons to iraq? UN alies
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foreign countries?? Halliburton Co. (CEO dick cheney) sold $73 million worth of oil production equipment to Iraq in 1998 and 1999
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wtf are you talking about we are talking about weapons of mass distruction and your off on some rant about oil machinery... dumb fucker
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But that was also contrary to UN sanctions was it not(unless it was done under the strict guidelines of the 'oil for food' program)? That alone makes it an important point, and again shows American hypocrisy. Oh, and one of Haliburton's most important employees? YOUR VICE PRESIDENT. A US company dealing with Iraquis for oil is also in flagrant conflict with what your country seems to want the rest of the world to stop doing in regards to Iraq. The US bitches and complains about European business dealings with Iraq, but does the same thing themselves. You can't have it both ways, so pick one.
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You guys are missing the point. The hypocrisy has been acknowledged... but do you WANT nations to be doing this, jesus christ. Just because the US has treaded the wrong path before, doesn't mean other countries should be able to do the same damn thing. So if the US makes a mistake... other countries should be able to do the same thing w/o anyoen calling them out on that? Fuck that... that's so fricking stupid.
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I hate to be the guy who has to bring this up, and I'm going to get flamed HARD for it, but Iraq is a sovereign nation. As such, it has the right to defend itself when attacked. The US is at its doorstep, just ITCHING to 'pull the trigger' and attack it, most likely scoring an easily won, devastating victory. This is made even easier by UN sanctions that bar Iraq from importing any weaponry. So basically, we have the following situation: Small Iraq with a minuscule amount of almost obsolete weaponry VS the US with an amazing arsenal of hightech weaponry. Iraq is trying to defend itself. That's it. They don't want to be destroyed, and they're taking the necessary steps to protect their country from the US, a country they see as ready to unjustly attack them. Iraq needs weapons to fight, and they're doing everything they possibly can to get them. So what the US basically wants is a situation in which NO ONE will sell Iraq weapons, making it PATHETICALLY easy for them to ANNIHALATE their 'opponent'. Am I right, or is that a horribly wrong way of seeing the situation at hand? When will the US start a war with an opponent it could conceivably lose to???
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haha ok wow what a retarted thread. you already shot yourself in the foot several times, most notably when veteran pointed out your hypocrisy. As soon as anyone makes a point you can't argue, you just call them ignorant and resort to insults. And OF COURSE Halliburton's sale of oil machinery to Iraq is relevant. You yell about countries selling weapons to Iraq; you know, Saddam could in theory, use this oil machinery to produce oil to use in his mililtary. Or maybe use the oil it produces to sell to the U.S. or another country and use that money to buy more weapons. This was the future VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. We're no better than france or germany. well some of us aren't. jesus
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