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Iraq War

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Campeador
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I'm not trying to start a discussion just if anyone has written a paper on this topic if they could PM me it would be much appreciated.
Apr 17 2006 9:40PM
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Campeador
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bump
Apr 17 2006 10:40PM
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Dilla
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sorry i dont
but ill bump it for you
Apr 17 2006 10:50PM
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TheHamburglar
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Dec 9 2016 6:54PM
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Casey
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I wonder how your plagerized paper about the Iraq war from ten years ago turned out.
Dec 19 2016 10:47AM
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TheHamburglar
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Campeadorbump


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Dec 20 2016 11:03AM
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TheDoughAbides
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oof, you really struggled through community college didn't ya cuckpeador?

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Dec 20 2016 12:32PM
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TheHamburglar
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TheDoughAbidescommunity college


I heard he dropped out =D
Dec 20 2016 8:23PM
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theabortionator
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Can you stop bumping threads?


Maybe in 75 more threads. Also re bumping shitty threads you already bumped?


Fuck


"OMG THIS THRED IS LEIK 10 YEARS OLD THATS LEIK SO KEWL!!!!!!!"
Dec 21 2016 1:50AM
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TheHamburglar
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theabortionatorCan you stop bumping threads?


Maybe in 75 more threads. Also re bumping shitty threads you already bumped?


Fuck


"OMG THIS THRED IS LEIK 10 YEARS OLD THATS LEIK SO KEWL!!!!!!!"


Chill the fuck out guy, no one's holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read em
Dec 21 2016 1:59AM
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-benedetto
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Trillions of dollars later...
Dec 21 2016 8:17AM
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louie.mirags
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-benedettoTrillions of dollars later...


and countless lives
Dec 23 2016 11:11AM
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Bodhisattva_
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theabortionatorCan you stop bumping threads?


Maybe in 75 more threads. Also re bumping shitty threads you already bumped?


Fuck


"OMG THIS THRED IS LEIK 10 YEARS OLD THATS LEIK SO KEWL!!!!!!!"


You seem super rad but at the same time it seems like you also let a lot of little things irritate you
Dec 26 2016 12:48AM
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profa_212
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louie.miragsand countless lives

4424 actually
Dec 26 2016 1:00AM
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theabortionator
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Bodhisattva_You seem super rad but at the same time it seems like you also let a lot of little things irritate you


I dont take the internet as people seem to think. That said some people are being obnoxious. It doesnt keep me up at night but i have no problems calling people out.


Yolo
Dec 26 2016 2:59AM
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AGOF
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Profahoben_2124424 actually


Good to know only US deaths count
Dec 26 2016 8:07AM
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.frenchy
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deploy me pls
Dec 26 2016 11:45AM
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profa_212
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A-cAllGood to know only US deaths count


Body counts total are around 100,000
Dec 26 2016 11:57AM
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louie.mirags
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.frenchydeploy me pls


Ahhh yes, the type of American citizen the elite love. In the middle of the conversation about how unjust the war is and about how many innocent lives that have been murdered, you make a statement about wanting to be deployed. It would be noble if the war was actually about freedom and peace. But I'm afraid it is not.
Dec 27 2016 8:09AM
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SammyDubz
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louie.miragsAhhh yes, the type of American citizen the elite love. In the middle of the conversation about how unjust the war is and about how many innocent lives that have been murdered, you make a statement about wanting to be deployed. It would be noble if the war was actually about freedom and peace. But I'm afraid it is not.


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Dec 27 2016 9:23AM
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Charlie_Kelly
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.frenchydeploy me pls


You just want to kill people you fucking psychopath.
Dec 27 2016 10:30AM
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doublecup
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FUCK THE IRAQ WAR

DICK CHENEY CAN SUCK ON MY MUSTY NUTS!!!!
Dec 28 2016 12:37PM
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.frenchy
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SammyDubzTriggered


hahahaha TRU
Dec 29 2016 2:49PM
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49566738265
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88% of all terrorist aren't even Martian, but we continue to drone them to death despite the Brexit.

I did not vote.
Dec 29 2016 7:11PM
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iFlip
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Dustin.I did not vote.


Good. Ignorant/stupid people should not vote. Now if you would go get sterilized that would be an excellent proactive step away from the dumbing down of America/the world.
Dec 29 2016 8:20PM
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49566738265
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iFlipGood. Ignorant/stupid people should not vote. Now if you would go get sterilized that would be an excellent proactive step away from the dumbing down of America/the world.


Christ your stupid.
Dec 30 2016 8:21AM
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louie.mirags
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Now for some studies about the amount of deaths in the Middle East:

http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1001533

"Various scientific surveys of Iraqi deaths resulting from the first four years of the Iraq War estimated that between 151,000 and over one million Iraqis died as a result of conflict during this time.[1] A later study, published in 2011, estimated that approximately 500,000 Iraqis had died as a result of the conflict since the invasion.[2] Counts of deaths reported in newspapers collated by projects like the Iraq Body Count project found 174,000 Iraqis reported killed between 2003 and 2013, with between 112,000-123,000 of those killed being civilian noncombatants."

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/numbers/2011/

Found many more sources here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

But since the news doesn't mention this often I guess our leaders are making all of the right choices and never lie to us.
Dec 30 2016 9:19AM
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49566738265
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louie.miragsNow for some studies about the amount of deaths in the Middle East:

http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1001533

"Various scientific surveys of Iraqi deaths resulting from the first four years of the Iraq War estimated that between 151,000 and over one million Iraqis died as a result of conflict during this time.[1] A later study, published in 2011, estimated that approximately 500,000 Iraqis had died as a result of the conflict since the invasion.[2] Counts of deaths reported in newspapers collated by projects like the Iraq Body Count project found 174,000 Iraqis reported killed between 2003 and 2013, with between 112,000-123,000 of those killed being civilian noncombatants."

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/numbers/2011/

Found many more sources here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

But since the news doesn't mention this often I guess our leaders are making all of the right choices and never lie to us.


I'm not really sure why this is relevant or what your last sentence is meant to inspire. Are you suggesting that these numbers are surprising? The current war is an offshoot of conflict that began decades ago and has become unbelievably complex. I don't think this is news to any educated person. And the numbers you cite represent an uncertainty of up to 900% difference? Not really useful, the important thing is that it's "a lot". But again....obviously.
Dec 30 2016 11:53AM
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iFlip
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Dustin.Christ your stupid.


No, you're stupid.
Dec 30 2016 7:18PM
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firecrotch
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SammyDubzTriggered


up vote
Dec 30 2016 8:47PM
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louie.mirags
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Dustin.I'm not really sure why this is relevant or what your last sentence is meant to inspire. Are you suggesting that these numbers are surprising? The current war is an offshoot of conflict that began decades ago and has become unbelievably complex. I don't think this is news to any educated person. And the numbers you cite represent an uncertainty of up to 900% difference? Not really useful, the important thing is that it's "a lot". But again....obviously.



Most people do not realize the amount of people who have died due to our actions and our tax dollars. I do not think it is that obvious. Could you imagine even 10percent of those uncertain numbers died in america due to a foreign army? This is nuts and people dismiss it all of the time just because its not happening here.

My guess is in a few decades, maybe less, people will look down on this war like they look at any other genocide in history.
Dec 31 2016 9:33AM
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Campeador
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louie.miragsMost people do not realize the amount of people who have died due to our actions and our tax dollars. I do not think it is that obvious. Could you imagine even 10percent of those uncertain numbers died in america due to a foreign army? This is nuts and people dismiss it all of the time just because its not happening here.

My guess is in a few decades, maybe less, people will look down on this war like they look at any other genocide in history.



The only "genocide" taking place is by muslims against non-muslims.

If these death-worshipping psychopaths could organize their societies at all, perhaps we could carpet bomb them less. Culling these fuckers is one of the few good uses of my tax dollars.
Dec 31 2016 3:55PM
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49566738265
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iFlipNo, you're stupid.


Well played.
Dec 31 2016 4:17PM
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49566738265
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louie.miragsMost people do not realize the amount of people who have died due to our actions and our tax dollars. I do not think it is that obvious. Could you imagine even 10percent of those uncertain numbers died in america due to a foreign army? This is nuts and people dismiss it all of the time just because its not happening here.

My guess is in a few decades, maybe less, people will look down on this war like they look at any other genocide in history.


I don't really think that's a good example. If the US was invaded by a fanatical religious group dedicated to murdering their way into ultimate governmental power, the US would defend itself. If it could not, you had better believe coalition support would help. Americans would quickly see that war is neither perfect nor pretty. Iraq cannot defend itself yet, but they are getting there believe it or not. Look at the ground gains they've made in the last year with coalition air support for reference. Syria is in civil war with ISIL/Russia/Iran taking advantage, Americans should absolutely understand the kind of death toll that comes from Civil War. Luckily we didn't have anyone swoop in and take advantage of our broken nation.

I think you also need to realize that they are killing way more of each other than we are of them. Like a lot more. "They" being combatants of Syria/Iraq. For reference, I bet Russia has probably caught up to us already and they've only been there 2 years carpet bombing civilian cities and saying it's ISIL. I say "carpet bombing" literally. They chuck cluster bombs into city blocks while coalition strikes are measured in excruciating detail and performed with extremely precise weapons. We are definitely improving, but unfortunately war will never be a perfect process.

I think you have a bad impression and understanding of what American/Coalition forces are engaged in now and are applying historical data from the 2003 era Iraq war to make points on the 2016 Iraq/Syria located war against ISIL. They are very different animals, and though any person's anger over killing is highly understandable and legitimate....I personally have very very different opinions on what we are doing now and what we did in 2003.
Dec 31 2016 4:30PM
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Casey
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CampeadorThe only "genocide" taking place is by muslims against non-muslims.

If these death-worshipping psychopaths could organize their societies at all, perhaps we could carpet bomb them less. Culling these fuckers is one of the few good uses of my tax dollars.


Read a book, dude.
Dec 31 2016 5:54PM
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Campeador
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CaseyRead a book, dude.


From the guy whose last book he read cover to cover was probably "Catcher in the Rye".
Dec 31 2016 6:44PM
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doublecup
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CampeadorFrom the guy whose last book he read cover to cover was probably "Catcher in the Rye".


reading that book got me pussy
Jan 1 2017 10:09AM
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Twinjibber77
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louie.miragsAhhh yes, the type of American citizen the elite love. In the middle of the conversation about how unjust the war is and about how many innocent lives that have been murdered, you make a statement about wanting to be deployed. It would be noble if the war was actually about freedom and peace. But I'm afraid it is not.


Pussy
Jan 1 2017 1:35PM
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Casey
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CampeadorFrom the guy whose last book he read cover to cover was probably "Catcher in the Rye".


Sorry I just finished a class on Middle Eastern history.
Jan 1 2017 3:10PM
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Campeador
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CaseySorry I just finished a class on Middle Eastern history.


And you probably believe islam is a "religion of peace" and "is in now way connected to terrorism".

That's alright though, you probably had to regurgitate those lines to pass.
Jan 2 2017 2:36PM
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Casey
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CampeadorAnd you probably believe islam is a "religion of peace" and "is in now way connected to terrorism".

That's alright though, you probably had to regurgitate those lines to pass.


I wouldn't say that. My main takeaway was that the situation we are in is a result of 300 years of imperialism that is probably worth learning about. Jihad has been a thing in Islam since the time of the prophet, but there is a time and place for it's justification, and the vast majority of Muslims believe that ISIS and All Qaeda are not being good muslims, in no way is the killing of civilians ever condoned, and the killing of non Muslims is expressly banned in the Quaran. They have a term for Christians and Jews - "people of the book" which means that they claim to worship the same God of Abraham as the other faiths. Also, keep this in perspective, that the vast majority of people killed by terrorists are Muslims. We lose 50 people in Orlando by the gun of some nut case that claimed ISIS for no reason and everyone loses their shit. that kind of violence is a pretty regular reality in Afganistan, Syria, Iraq, Palestine.
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