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SethMorrison
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so im thinking about selling my 2000 eclipse for 11k(perfect condition) and buying this.



http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=21&paId=132546607&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&recnum=7&leadExists=true&criteria=K-%7CE-%7CM-_34_%7CD-_307_%7CN-N%7CR-50%7CI-1%7CP-PRICE+descending%7CQ-descending%7CZ-80026&aff=national





i know it has a lot of miles but i would probaly do an engine swap and put a lot of money into it, im just wondering how much hp the ls has, i know the 3000gt has 3 engines, and its not the vr-4 so is it the 160hp model or 260hp model? thank you
Apr 16 2006 10:44PM
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SethMorrison
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shit 160hp or 220hp not 260
Apr 16 2006 10:44PM
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SethMorrison
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also im looking at a saalvaged 03 wrx wagon for 9k
Apr 16 2006 11:02PM
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SethMorrison
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bump
Apr 16 2006 11:59PM
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petek
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are you really seth morrison?
Apr 16 2006 11:59PM
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III
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^good question. It would be amazing if seth morrison came to ns to ask for advice on cars.
Apr 17 2006 12:18AM
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III
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And if it is him, Seth Morrison is a post whore.
Apr 17 2006 12:19AM
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acoustikrage
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wrx, wrx, wrx, wrx, wrx, wrx, wrx, wrx, wrx, wrx, wrx!!!
Apr 17 2006 12:23AM
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SethMorrison
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no im not fucking seth morrison you dumbass
Apr 17 2006 1:04AM
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Dilla
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but youre name says you are
Apr 17 2006 1:07AM
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brokebutitsworthit
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dont buy a salvaged car, its not worth it, i like the mitsu, but throw the twin turbo in it
Apr 17 2006 1:33AM
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Elijah.
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yeah i agree with him
are you faking not being seth morrison and trying to trick us?
Apr 17 2006 1:45AM
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SethMorrison
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if i got the subi i would put lots of money into it, maybe even an engine swap, would it still not be worth it then?
Apr 17 2006 2:04PM
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Liam.
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i like that mitsubishi
Apr 17 2006 2:08PM
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-benedetto
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why would you buy that and get a engine swap. buy the 3000gt with the twin turbo stock. maybe its called the vr4 or 6? i don't remember. whats the details on the salvage car. 9k is probably too much.

don't buy the 160hp, thats wack. get the twin turbo stock. don't be a dumb ricer kid
Apr 17 2006 2:14PM
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-benedetto
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oh yeah 11k = too much
Apr 17 2006 2:14PM
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Logchucker
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Your problem with a salvage title is first thing insurance, and re-sale. The car has been inspected by someone in the DOT, but that does not mean it is up to full factory safety standards nor is actually anything guarnteed to be near factory at all. Insurance for me was going to be higher if that car had a salvage title. ALso you can't really gurantee what happened so buyes tend to stay away from it. SO I guess it depends on why it was salvaged in the first place
Apr 17 2006 2:16PM
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SethMorrison
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because i know there are some people on here who really know alot about cars
Apr 17 2006 2:20PM
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SethMorrison
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i cant affors the vr-4 and the sl has 220hp the stock 3000gt only has 160.
Apr 17 2006 2:21PM
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-benedetto
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i know a lot jibremix so calm down
Apr 17 2006 2:21PM
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III
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how am i a dumbass? Your name is SethMorrison, thus one would put two and two together.
Apr 17 2006 2:26PM
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SkiFakie614
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Forget the salvage car, you'll never get a DIME for it later.
Apr 17 2006 3:07PM
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Crock360
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If you're going to get a 3000gt, go all out and get the VR4. Frontwheel is fast,but nothing handles like AWD.
Apr 17 2006 3:18PM
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cjb1776
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go with a jeep or something either 4wd or awd, like a cherokee or a volvo
Apr 17 2006 3:23PM
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dammitmike
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3000gt's look great but they are too overpriced. the one your looking at has almost 100k on it and yeah i know you said your serious about an engine swap, but realistically the engine isnt going to be the only thing to go. 3000gt's (especially the vr4's) are not known for their durability and reliability so go ahead and drop the coin on a fresh engine but be ready to fix other parts as they begin to die. depending on the mileage i think your best bet would be to build up your eclipse. if your serious about doing a nice build for the 3000gt then save yourself some cash and make that eclipse vicious. i love the looks of the 3000gt but the non vr4 ones just lack so much in performance for their high price.
Apr 17 2006 4:01PM
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mw1235
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is it an rs, gs, gt, or gst eclipse you are selling? 11k is pretty good for a low-mileage gt or gst.

i was looking into a 3000gt, and yeah they are pricey but thats about the best youll do right there ( too bad you cant find the VR6 for a decent price)

the reason they are pricey is because they were mitsubishi's first 6 cylinder production, and were discontinued in 1998 (correct me if im wrong)

i say go for it if you can hook anybody onto 11k, let me know if what model the eclipse is you are selling

also transmission and mileage
Apr 17 2006 4:12PM
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Aenigma
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Don't get the 3000GT, nobody should ever put themselves through owning a front wheel drive car. Just keep that money and put it into the eclipse, that car has some potential if you know what you're doing.
Apr 17 2006 4:38PM
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LittleDevil720
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salvaged WRX????
Apr 17 2006 5:33PM
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Poormansvault
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3000gt is a sick car, but it is not meant for drag racing. It is fairly heavy, but at high speeds, it is one of the most stable cars out there. When you are going over about 120, you do not get crazy shakes and engine noises, so it is good. The problem with the non-VR4 models is that they are front wheel drive, which isn't really fun. Not only is the VR-4 all wheel drive, but it has 10 degree rear steering (the rear wheels turn up to 10 degrees), which is sick. Also, with the last generation (1994-1999 I think), the VR-4 came with a 6 speed manual, while the others only had 5 speeds or an auto(dont get the auto, no matter what).
Apr 17 2006 5:43PM
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japanada
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the prob with a salvage title is like what somebody else said, it is hard to get it inspected and deemed safe, and insurance is usualy much more on it. Also rebuilding from a salvage title is a lot more $ than you think.

Depending on the damange you will have to bondo/replace body panels then repaint the whole car. I good paint job is about 1000-2000. DONT EVER GET MACCO?CHEAP PAINT JOBS!

Also there is ALWAYS more that goes into a resotre than riginally thought. You will have many many engine components to replace, if not the whole engine if it was hit in the front, That also usually means new axles, suspensions, control arms, driveshafts, and a TC, possilby a new trans too. If it is hit in the back the same can apply minus the engine part.

Correct me if i am wrong, but arent WRXs unibodys? Meaning it takes very little to tweak the body. It cost me about$500 to have about a 1 foot section of my unibody on my ZJs door frame to be straightened. And it was barly tweaked. Most places wont even bother fixing it if it is more than a certain degree of bendage b/c it is so much $, so much time, plus the frame get CONSIDERABLY weaker if you dont reinforce it.
Apr 17 2006 6:17PM
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SethMorrison
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2000 eclipse gt 5 speed, 46k miles. the only vr-4 within 30 miles of me is going for 27k. but thats only cars.com
Apr 17 2006 8:26PM
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SethMorrison
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I have found a great deal. its more money then i have but i could easily gather a couple g's up.



i know i know its a neon, but its the srt4 im not worried about the looks/name. just performance





http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=21&paId=195965040&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&recnum=3&leadExists=true&criteria=K-%7CE-%7CM-_12_%7CD-_6948_%7CN-N%7CR-75%7CI-1%7CP-PRICE+descending%7CQ-descending%7CZ-80026&aff=national
Apr 17 2006 8:46PM
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japanada
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if you want a comfotable car with some creature comforts, look elsewere. Also they have open diffs so their traction and launches take a little something to get it dialed.
Apr 17 2006 8:48PM
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SethMorrison
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wrx's and evos are out to much$$$$

these are still what im thinking about



mustangs(5.0 or svt) no gt's

eclipse gsx

3000gt

300zx

camaro's and firebirds


older m3's
Apr 17 2006 8:53PM
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japanada
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what about a audi s4? biturbo V6 with AWD, plus its an audi, they can be had for about 13-16 thousand
Apr 17 2006 8:55PM
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SethMorrison
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also the only thins im interested in is speed and performance for not alot of $$$ forget snow,skiing,gas all i want is power speed and performance
Apr 17 2006 8:55PM
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SethMorrison
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http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=21&paId=132681629&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&recnum=4&leadExists=true&criteria=K-%7CE-%7CM-_4_%7CB-20000%7CD-_28_%7CN-N%7CR-100%7CI-1%7CP-PRICE+descending%7CQ-descending%7CZ-80026&aff=national
Apr 17 2006 8:57PM
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japanada
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then claerly a V8 is what you want if you want power, get a 96-99 mustang GT, yes i said GT, then put a TTor a big T56ish turbo in it. youll be putting down anywhere from 400-600hp and be running low 11 if not 10s
Apr 17 2006 8:57PM
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SethMorrison
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yes that would be nice
Apr 17 2006 8:58PM
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japanada
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that audi you posted is high in price. look for one that was a dealer car that has about 100K on it. All the important work wil have been done, timing belt and turbo rebuilds.

The mustang idea is nice cause you can turn down the boost and make it streetable, then turn it up when you want to race. If you started with a mid-late svt then thats good o b/c it has the reinforced block and cams ect
Apr 17 2006 9:00PM
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SethMorrison
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so if i got lets say a 96 gt, 5 speed semi high miles for under 8k how much would it run to get the turbo, plus all the other simple mods. if i got it for 8k i could put another 8k into probaly
Apr 17 2006 9:06PM
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japanada
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if you are paying 8k for a 96 gt with HIGH miles you are getting RAPED! ive seen 98-99 with about 100K go for that much. Keep in mind that after the 2500-3500 for the turbo and accessories, you will put about another 3000ish into motor,suspension and other shit.

check out www.turbomustangs.com/ that site is all about turbos and stangs. read around there for what it takes, and what it costs.
Apr 17 2006 9:12PM
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japanada
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check the 4sale forums too, chances are you could find one that is built well and tuned well for less than it would cost you to do it yourself.
Apr 17 2006 9:12PM
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Aenigma
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If it's not going to be a ski car you could always check out a 90-96 300zx TT.
Apr 17 2006 9:15PM
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japanada
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thsope can be a real PITA, the turbos go very easily, but if they are kept well they are nice cars, they can be pricy to find a nice one.
Apr 17 2006 9:16PM
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japanada
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http://www.mustangforums.com/forumid_213/tt.htm

another stnag 4 sal forum
Apr 17 2006 9:21PM
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dammitmike
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you could definitly get a decent mileage, good condition pre 99 gt for 8 grand. so i definitly wouldnt count gt's out. cobras hold their value very well so its harder to get a good deal on them and 5.0s are great build up cars but most likely youll be looking at an all around project instead of just something to build onto. plus if you have another 8 grand to spend you should be solid to have a very nice and reliable turbo or supercharged stang. make sure to do your research but if you want to look into the supercharging route check out some Kenne Bell blowers. with an $8k mods budget you should be pretty set to have a nice turbo/supercharger setup along with the cash youll need to build up the engine, drivetrain and rear end. make sure you research a good bit so that you can decided just what kind of set up you want. check out www.stangnet.com and www.modularpowerhouse.com for some good tips and forums.
Apr 17 2006 11:36PM
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-benedetto
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what year mustang you talking, the 80's are so fucking ugly. the only 5.0 your getting is like the 94 or below. after that they are 4.6's. and they are GT'S you ignorant bastard.

eclipse are so wack. i've heard the awd one (i think its the gsx) is ok but its not great. they have NO balls. NO BALLS

300zx, wack

camaro's are the fucking shit but gas will kill, i know you said you don't care but whatever. i say look for a 96 z28 with the ls1. obvisously no v6's and don't make it ricer. keep it strictly muscle. get flowmasters and k&n filters.
Apr 19 2006 11:57AM
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japanada
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i agree with thte gsx statement. modding DSMs to be fast is a chore. It takes a lot to get them into decenet speed territoyry(ie mid/low 12s). They also require a lot of maintence.
Apr 19 2006 1:28PM
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