jfuller, first off i said the influence is felt more downtown than pc, dipshit. you'd have to retarded to say otherwise, and that's why i didnt. if the smokin ban doesnt satisfy you: 3.2% beer, age limit 19 for purchasing cigs as well as 21 to work at a gas station. did i mention kegs are illegal? wtf. i said UNDEReducated hispanics, not uneducated. there are plenty moving here with decent jobs and what not, but hispanics are by far the largest minority living and moving into this state, look at west valley city for christ's sake. if you think otherwise, then you are just plain stupid. you are right about rocky anderson. however answer me this: when's the last time utah voted democrat on the presidential electoral ballot? go talk to a mormon sometime, and ask what they think about our tax money being spent on overseas imperialism... I'm SURE they'll say its a waste of money. also companies move here because its a skiing mecca, not b/c whether mormons have monetary control or not.also to AndrewT, your statement of "if you dont like it get out" reminds me of America's concept of "love it or leave it" which is extremely ethnocentric, and part of the reason why the US is hated the world over, shame on you. i stand by my statement that mormons are ignorant, ofcourse they shouldnt be harassed. however its hard not to harass when they wake you up in the morning trying to convert you, and wont take no for answer. this is NOT fake, and has indeed happened to me 3 times since last august. my american civilization teacher told our class theres some old law in louisiana i believe, or some state around there i'm not sure, that says its legal to shoot a mormon. ofcourse this law is ancient and does not apply to today, but it makes you question why such a law was created in the first place. mormons believe that their material wealth is a sign from god that they are the chosen ones which is absolutely idiotic, however the rest of christianity is based on charity, sharing, humbleness,and being happy with what you have, and doesnt say anything about material wealth. makes you think.