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Liberty Skis Vid

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F5*
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I created a thread today highlighting a video created by members showing how bad liberty skis are. He showed off the delam tip and then flexed the ski. The ski is so weak that he was able to break it twice without any tools.

The reason I bring it up is not to say liberty sucks, which they do, but to show that the video along with my thread was quickly deleted. Even though Liberty is a sponsor of the site, I think it is the right of the newschoolers community to know if a product is shit. They only reason there is a site is the people the view it religiously because they love to talk and see skiing. The mods should not control our speech when a product as terriable as that is on the market.
We should be able to talk as much shit as we want, expically when we have video evidence to back us up.

Make your voice heard, if everyone made a thread demanding the video be reposted they cant delete them all.

The quality of Liberty shall be exposed!!!!
Mar 25 2006 4:53PM
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F5*
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Hey, says in your profile that your sponsored by Liberty, so your biased.

Secondly, it is not defamation if I have proof to back up my claims, which I do, a video. No on is debating the fact that they are an old ski. But that old ski sucks balls.

Liberty could take legal action towards me but no way in hell will they win.

Lastly, the whole point of the thread that a video was deleted. I could of been of myself taking a poo, that fact it is was taken off and shouldnt of. It just so happened to be Liberty and a shitty product.

I love you all
Mar 28 2006 5:57PM
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matthasaurusrex
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erik (f5) is a cool dude.he aint just startin shit! muchlove
Mar 28 2006 6:42PM
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BobYohan
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that gimmick is sooo played. trollerboy beat you to it.
Mar 28 2006 7:37PM
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nickmcnutt
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if you flex stls, they also crack very much. i diddnt like it at all.
Mar 28 2006 11:04PM
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jackelliott
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heres the video, i hosted it myself so u dont have to delete it newschoolers, yay! http://marge.uvm.edu/jelliott/liberty.mov
Mar 28 2006 11:07PM
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Schoening
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hahahahaha YESSSSSSSS
Mar 29 2006 12:58AM
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ColoradoFlats
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After further review of that video, the kid says "these skis are about a year old" - ok, so lets take into consideration that we can assume (since the ends were ductaped) that he had been riding them for at least that long (and they hadn't broken yet...or maybe they had!).... Ok, now that that's established, lets look at another stupid aspect of this video. The bindings are obviously off the skis and the skis don't appear to be broken (although they could have already been cracked, which is very possible, because it looked to have snapped both times right below where the mounts would have been)...hence we need to take into consideration that there are going to be binding holes drilled all throughtout the ski, maybe even a few diff. mounts, we just don't know..I mean shit, they didn't even break both skis for us, they could have easily sabataged that video....Taking all that into consideration, I think it's safe to say you can't base any opinion on that video...When my sister was 12, she could have broken the same ski under the same circumstances...hell, ANY ski under those conditions would snap in half
Mar 29 2006 10:50AM
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mauii
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^ haha oh gosh
Mar 29 2006 12:54PM
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Ghst
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Haha, that video was sweet

ColoradoFlats, since you ride for Liberty your opinion is way biased

I think Liberty is sick, it's a given that they're skis will have problems because they're like 4 years old I think. The video should be able to be posted because it informs people about the problems with last years stealths. maybe those just had a defect, maybe they were just old and worn, maybe they just are shit and break.. I think the video should stay for people to make thier own conclusions.
Mar 29 2006 2:39PM
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ColoradoFlats
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I know I am...and I'm not saying the vid wasn't funny...that isn't the point I was trying to make...Let's all just be friends and leave it at that. werd...
Mar 29 2006 4:02PM
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A_E
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hahahahahahaha, as u can see these skis are bombproof and very good to ski on.
Mar 29 2006 6:18PM
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nothanks
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favorite line.
Mar 29 2006 7:20PM
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Schoening
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i don't have anything against liberty but i just think the video is hilaroius. jack = the man
Mar 30 2006 12:47AM
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jackelliott
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dude ur so right, we totally rigged that whole thing, those skis are acutally mad good. right on bro!
Mar 30 2006 1:27AM
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ColoradoFlats
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dude, no one said the skis were made good...that's why they were RECALLED if you missed the first 50 posts....I mean, jc, you broke a ski that had been skied on correct?, looked like shit and probably had all kinds of problems...even if you didn't sabatage it, it doesn't prove shit to me. It was funny tho, I'll give you that.

I tell you what, just to make this a fair issue, I'll take my old scratch FS's that are 2 years old (only skied on for 1 year), have 1 mounts worth of holes and I'll break them for you, the exact same way, on video...Then you can be as sarcastic as you want.
Mar 30 2006 7:06AM
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Schoening
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make sure you film it..... i wanna see this
Mar 30 2006 9:26AM
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jksl
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they were skied on for 5 days.

and does anyone else think that it's really funny that a company called Liberty is making a ski called the KGB?
that kinda makes me chuckle a bit.
Mar 30 2006 11:14AM
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ColoradoFlats
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I can't reproduce that exact scenario then...but I don't see how the tip and tail would delam in 5 days unless you were smashing them on the road or something of that nature. And any ski with mount holes drilled and no bindings is considered "breakable" if you've ever worked in a ski shop...even brand new skis...drilling holes in anything thin like a ski is going to compromise the integrity/stability in the overall structure...
Don't worry tho...I'll still break the scratches for you guys!
Mar 30 2006 11:28AM
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futurespin
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yea, why was the video deleted? was their porn in it? racial slurs?
Mar 30 2006 12:27PM
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jksl
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the tips were delammed after 5 days of normal park use because..ooh my...liberties are horrible skis! wow that one is a shocker...
get off liberty's dick man, just cause they give you free skis doesn't mean they're an awesome company
Mar 30 2006 4:17PM
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jackelliott
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nah acutally i remember seeing them begin to delam about halfway through the first day he rode them
Mar 30 2006 4:23PM
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ColoradoFlats
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You guys are dumbfucks...all skis are rivetted now if you took the time to look... "dick man"? good one...do you fags even have a drivers license yet? I'm sick of you kids in that "I just hit puberty, so I think I own the fuckin world" mode..it's getting super annoying.
Mar 30 2006 4:50PM
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ColoradoFlats
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Mar 30 2006 5:04PM
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jksl
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uuuum, i wasn't calling you "dick man" i was saying "get off liberty's dick, man". and yes i do infact have my driver's liscense...and that was quite the petty attempt to make fun of me.
and the skis still like my asshole, i saw like 8 pairs of those newer ones break, and 2 pairs of KGB's break (those within TWO fucking days)
now seriously...go get some real skis bro.
Mar 30 2006 5:42PM
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jksl
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oh and i'm sorry, but how old are you that you think you can talk like this? cause it seems like you're being hypocritical making this statement.
Mar 30 2006 5:44PM
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jackelliott
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hahahahhahahahahahahahah HA
Mar 30 2006 5:48PM
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ColoradoFlats
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why do you guys care so much? as least i have a reason to give a shit.
Mar 30 2006 5:55PM
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jksl
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it's fun getting people like you worked up.
and liberty DOEs suck, so we just thought we'd spread the word that this company is beeeat.
Mar 30 2006 6:15PM
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Snowcase
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those certain skis suck as much dick as you but the company is awesome. get a fucking clue alot of skis break and of course they are replaced especially if it was in 2 days like you said. i seriously do not know a better or more helpful company than liberty. this thread should die
Mar 30 2006 7:01PM
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Trollerboy
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^ 'case is right on all these points.

1) The thread should die - let's hope I'm the last post

2) Liberty is indeed a good company with great customer service

3) Yup, they had a ski that escaped quality control or whatever and it was very very bad

4) the vid was funny (even if it was at Liberty's expense)

5) The Liberty rider has a point, even if biased, that Liberty is trying to help our sport

6) Break your ski -- get a new one in 2 days - pretty good. And yes they have improved greatly.

Now let's all go find an interesting thread!
Mar 31 2006 10:19PM
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FUUUCK
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i have doe everything possible to break a pair of valant skis i own, absolutely impossible
Apr 1 2006 1:52AM
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bmxican_89
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it was a funny video. the first break should NEVER happen. he didnt even try. ive tested flex of a ski like that in a store and i didnt do that. the one where he bent the ski the wrong way doesnt matter, cuzz pretty much an ski would break when bent like that..

but ive seen the newer liberties, and compared to last season, the quality looks way better.
Apr 1 2006 2:21AM
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jksl
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hey good one pal. you're truely a smart one buddy. you come up with that one all by yourself chief? i bet you did gaylord.
(if you don't get the reference, I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU (another reference))

and also...their skis suck, but the company is awesome? yea that sounds sweet.
Apr 1 2006 9:50PM
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Snowcase
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have you ever talked to anyone at liberty? i didn't think so. and i don't really no where your getting the refrencesi mean really, are you going to kill me?
Apr 1 2006 10:48PM
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Mini_Phinney
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u sound scared
Apr 2 2006 3:20PM
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Snowcase
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I am very
Apr 2 2006 4:10PM
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SirFryanator
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hahahahaha
liberty is trying to make cheap "disposable" skis as said in another thread on NS.
I think liberty should make better skis or get out!!!
Apr 2 2006 4:13PM
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matthasaurusrex
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haha dude you have no idea. You know he hasent talked to anyone with liberty? take a second thought.
Apr 2 2006 4:28PM
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jksl
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lame. i thought everyone listens to dane cook? i guess not.
Apr 2 2006 7:25PM
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Snowcase
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Yea I guess not watching tv is effecting my comebacks
Apr 2 2006 7:35PM
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Ryno
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its on CD's but dont worry, i got it....GAYLORD
Apr 2 2006 7:36PM
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EastCoastPride
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if jeff kiesel says liberty sucks, they suck.

i know FOR A FACT that he has seen, i repeat, SEEN IN REAL LIFE, a 17-inch penis. he looks at it in the mirror every morning.

and then slaps everybody else in this thread with it.

it hurts. i wouldn't recommend it.
Apr 2 2006 7:41PM
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LC.
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I delammed a tip on my 05-06 Big Troubles on my first day hitting big kickers, and Dy nastar wouldn't warranty them, even though I work in a shop that carries all their products and I ski full Dynastar/Lange/Look/Kerma. I've fixed them up now so they still ride really well but I won't buy their skis again.

As for cracking noises when you flex a ski, that happens to ALL new skis.
Apr 3 2006 12:52PM
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PurpleSkier
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Seriously? Weird. I've only had mine since like January, but I ride them harder than any other ski I've owned, and no problems. I've had nothing but good luck with the new ones.
Apr 3 2006 4:09PM
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jksl
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yes...i'm glad someone gets it.
Apr 3 2006 8:41PM
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hoodskiier
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I've had last years libertys and this years. I skied the last years choppers for about half a year until the back end completely delamenated. I took the bindings off and the ski had cracked in half in the middle. I emailed liberty and they lket me trade those in for this years stealths. I loved how the choppers skied, except for them breaking they were fucking amazing. Now I have the stealths, and what I can tell they are fuckin bombproof. They dont creak and crack when I bend them and they seem much more sturdy and more well built.

So I dont see how you can talk shit about this company. They admitted to their skis having faults last year, they are now completely changed and they kickass. So if you havent tried skiing on this years dont try and hate on liberty.
Apr 4 2006 2:59AM
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hoodskiier
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Exactly.
Apr 4 2006 3:01AM
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off_axis
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you a gangsta
May 2 2006 5:48PM
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Snowcase
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you a douche for bringin back a dead thread
May 2 2006 6:11PM
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matthasaurusrex
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no, its a bag of douche.
May 3 2006 5:01PM
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