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Scratch Vs. Teneighty

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WhiskeyRodeo
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I am looking to get a new pair of skis i ski mostly just normal runs and the glades should i get the 1080 foils Click for larger image
or a new pair of those old red and white scratchesClick for larger image
Mar 21 2006 10:47AM
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BenJAMIN4aWhil3
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scratch
Mar 21 2006 10:54AM
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BCKicker540
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foils are good for glades, they have a real extreme sidecut so they help you make wuick turns in the trees. also the extra waist width will help you float when it snows
Mar 21 2006 10:56AM
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WhiskeyRodeo
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thanks BCK any one else????
Mar 21 2006 12:34PM
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jayamait
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its personal preference. and i havnt ridden both so i can't say.
Mar 21 2006 12:47PM
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FUUUCK
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i find the foil gets locked in a carve too easily and isnt great for slidy turns, its plenty stable though
Mar 21 2006 2:19PM
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lyndon
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scratches are always solid man. i demoed the foils, in a 166. i foun them to be light, but a little bulky. i didnt lik ethe way they carved. i have scratch pros, which are the same construction as those scratches. i would suggest scratch. much cheaper, wood core, and very very very durrable. a lot of guys have complained about the foils due to some edge problems...... its you choice!!!
Mar 21 2006 3:40PM
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tattooed-n-evil
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I have those scratches, decent weight. They handle really well for switch skiing. Plus they're tanks. I've been riding mine for 2 years now, tough skis
Mar 21 2006 4:49PM
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West_Side_Havoc
Posts: 114 - Karma: 10
scraches for sure
Mar 21 2006 4:51PM
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leone
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scratch
Mar 21 2006 4:57PM
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WhiskeyRodeo
Posts: 241 - Karma: 10
thanks guys
i want to keep these skiis for a while so durability is important
what are the problems with the 1080's edges
Mar 22 2006 7:58AM
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n-o
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that scratch has a really wierd flex pattern right in front of ther binding as if it was on a hinge..... get the foil .. a way bnetter ski in all aspects
Mar 22 2006 8:13AM
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Mr_Bojangles
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The Foil owns the Scratch in all aspects, the Foils actually carve
Mar 22 2006 8:26AM
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Mr_Bojangles
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^he speaks the truth
Mar 22 2006 8:27AM
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iskindiana
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no way go for the scratch FS... they widened them up and they are such a sick ski.... if you are a small person u might have trouble flexing the new scratches they are a little stiffer, while the foils are soft
Mar 22 2006 8:30AM
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lyndon
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the problems with the foils edges are they are really thin, and they come out after a good bashing on rails, kinda like the TM's. i demoed them, and the edges didnt look thet thick. i will say the foils carve well, but the scratches arent far behind. concidoring you have race skis, you need a good, solid twin tip. you want durrability, go with the scratch, you cant beat an all wood core, and thick edges and a hard base. the scratches you want have been made 2 years ago, and they are solid. go with a tried and tested scratch. dont chance it with the foils. i have nothing against solomon, but thats my opinion. the scratches will take a beating and look great at the end of the season.
Mar 22 2006 8:57AM
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jayrock
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Do yourself a favor...if you get the foils, dont get the salomon 912 bindings.`
Mar 22 2006 9:28AM
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kj_hud
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id def say foils, just because of the scratch model you are comparing it to
Mar 22 2006 10:57AM
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dougmonkey
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I don't mean to threadjack but i didn't want to start a new thread with the same title.

I am looking at getting either '07 Foils or '07 Scrathes (the ones with the burnt out graphics) because I can get them at trade prices. Which ones are the better ones next year? I know they haven't been demo'd yet but I need to gat my order in soon.
Mar 22 2006 1:29PM
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ski_cartel
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yea iv skied both and i would go for the scratch, they have a wood core so your gona get a longer life out of em, i know that you can argue that point but its true
Mar 22 2006 2:43PM
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WhiskeyRodeo
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thanks i just want to tell evryone how much i appreciate the useful advice
Mar 22 2006 2:54PM
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jayamait
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yes thank you nolan.
Mar 22 2006 2:58PM
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ihatemyscratches
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ihatemyscratches. the weight and flex are ok and they spin fast but other than that they pretty much suck. the flex pattern is a bitch on the shins, the topsheet does not flex enough and cracks after serious buttering and manuals, (mine have core rot cause water got in a crack) the outer bases are soft as shit but i must admit i have no core shots even after skiing in the woods on little-no cover, and rubber (in the tips and tail) is not the kind of material skis should be made of. I hope that helps you but i can't compare them cause i havn't ridden the salomons.
Mar 22 2006 4:41PM
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FREESKIER_FIVE-0
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everyone at my local mountain pretty much has scratch's and they all love them. id prolly go scratch if you are doin more park
Mar 22 2006 4:43PM
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leone
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the scratches can carve if you know how to ski. they hold a great edge everywhere except a race course (which i have done before and it was pretty interesting)
Mar 22 2006 6:55PM
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Edugs
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FOILs w/o question.

Great all over the mtn, fat tip and tail makes them especially good backcountry/ glades, v light but sturdy.

Also, good for sticking cliffs and kickers if your into that...
Mar 23 2006 6:34AM
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iskindiana
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what year scratches do u have, ive had the 03/04s and the 05/06s and both of them rocked out. the 05 is a whole new ski and i have noo issues with them at all... all i do is slide rails and i only have a couple egde breaks... Sick Ski. Foils i hevnt skied but i have fingered them and they seemed super soft.
Mar 23 2006 10:02AM
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ihatemyscratches
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i have last years, the white ones. they spin fast and are sick on rails but where i'm from there arent any rails within a thirty mile radius besides sketchy urban
Mar 25 2006 4:41PM
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kozy
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foil
Mar 25 2006 4:53PM
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poofartpee
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FOIL NO CONTEST that scratch ski is like a beg/itermediate park ski
Mar 25 2006 8:42PM
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Silence
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outta those two id get the foil, but for the same price as foils you can get a pair of 05-06 scratch fs's - they will own
Mar 25 2006 9:05PM
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squibble
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if your kinda short on money then get the BCs
Mar 25 2006 9:11PM
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SnowMedic
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^forsure
Mar 25 2006 10:22PM
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lastxlight
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Those are actualyl sprayer FSs



Which are not as good, If you do alot of pow and backcountry, get a scratch BC or sprayer BC. If not get the 1080 foil, anyone i know who rides them, loves them
Mar 25 2006 11:09PM
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Mr_Bojangles
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^word, once you go foil, you never go back, damn those skis are fine
Mar 26 2006 2:27AM
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lastxlight
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I like my sprayer bcs though
Mar 26 2006 2:43AM
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