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^i dont think its stiffer than the karma...i have last years skogens and my friend has karmas, i tried his karmas they seemed more stiff to me. Also depends which year cause two years ago (the ones with the bombs) were really soft and last years were pretty stiff
last years are not nearly as stiff as the karmas. my dad has kamras and i have 05 skogens, there fairly stiff, not bad at all though, there not wobbly at high speeds on hardpack or anything,but there not to stiff for butters or park